Ignoring the Meta and Building Jedis. Help me, Obi Wan Kenobi.

Props to you sir! Please report back with your results.

Generally, the Jedi have ok kits, but their proc and % chances all need to be reworked after all of the power creep. IGD and Fisto counter up to 50% JKG heal up to 25% per turn and or get a taunt, JC TM gain chances up, etc. This would make money for EA. There are more than 15 jedi. If they made them viable people would farm them more. As it is there is no cost benefit driver for them. Most just blow.

Im a huge Clone Wars fan. Nerding here, but we need Ki Adi-Mundi because the Landing at Point Rain CW episodes were some of the best and he out-kilt both Anakin and Asokha so the conehead is a badass. And I dont know why but the Supply Lines IGD episodes was one of my favorites too so he just needs a buff.

If they added some more clones Wolfe, Gree, Gregor, etc and gave each of them a paired unique buff with some of the Jedi Masters it would open up that whole Republic faction for EA to sell more toons and crystals.

Biggest problem is that Jedi damage dealers aren't fast enough and don't hit hard enough. There's so many cool Jedi out there, but the fact that they only have one decent damage dealer (who is only a good damage dealer cause he also has the rebel tag) is pretty sad. I'd love to see Anakin get a zeta to his leader ability that gives Jedi and clones small tm boost on crits and a larger tm boost when they're attack is evaded

I'd love to see Anakin get a zeta to his unique with a self cleanse when his ally falls below 50% health, and call Ahsoka to assist during his next attack. I'd also love to see him gain a stacking offense % bonus when he crits, and to share that bonus with Ahsoka. I'd love to see Ahsoka get a zeta on her unique that gives her a stacking crit damage bonus when she scores a crit, and to have her share that bonus with Anakin. That would give them really cool synergy

I'd also love to see Ahsoka deal bonus damage on her basic if she already had full health, and deal bonus damage on her special for each ally at full health

PLO's leadership should get extended to dispelling all status effects, instead of just stealth. Allies should gain stacking offense and tm boosts each time they dispel a buff

Barris and lumi should have their leader slots buffed to provide additional bonuses if an ally begins their turn at full health

Kit fisto spent forever as the only character who could provide potency up. I think it'd cool if they created a new buff for his special which provided 100% chance to land a negative status effect (kinda like what advantage does for critical hits)

Aayla should get a zeta on her unique that provides additional counter chance and gives her a good bonus if she attacks a character that's already stunned.

Kenobi is cool

Mace needs a complete overhaul, badly

Soooo, update:

I've tried a few of the combos mentioned and the truth is that even the clever ones only work 'meh.' For example, I was pretty excited about IGD (L) with Anakin, Guardian, Old Ben, and Zarriss. Basically every time they basic strike OR counterattack, they're applying a debuff:

Anakin: buff and healing immunity applied on basic
Guardian: Offense down on basic
IGD: Defense down on basic
Old Ben: Evasion down on basic
...and Zarriss just to keep them all alive.

The theorycrafting here is decent, but they're too pathetic to make it worthwhile. It was pretty awesome when they all hit the same character and that one sap was slow, weak, and low defense while also unable to heal or buff. But it wasn't enough to make up for the fact that they just can't hit hard enough to really hurt anything. And their staying power is mediocre at best. I tried this with an Anakin lead instead and they hit a bit harder, but not enough to make a difference.

Everyone performs better under a zQGJ lead for sure. Gen Kenobi, Ezra, Aayla, and GM Yoda under his leadership was a decently strong team - the best I've found so far. Still not stellar, but replacing GM Yoda with his older, more giggly Dagobah version might help. I'm working on that.

The other teams were definitely fun. I loved GK lead, Anakin, Ahsoka, Luminara, Barris. Just like a Clone Wars episode, and everytime Lumi or Barris healed, everyone got to launch a team attack. And replacing Lumi and Barris with Rex and Cody was like an old reunion. They didn't do bad, but they didn't do great either.

None of my Jedi are gold-ring yet, although since I wrote this post, I promoted JKA from 9 to 11. I'm taking Ezra from 10 to 11 next and then it's either Aayla or Ahsoka to 11. I probably can't stop myself from G11-ing Mace, even though I know it's pointless. The others I'll just take to 10. Then I can decide who gets the gold rings, although I'm pretty sure Gen Kenobi, Barris, and QGJ are up first.

If you guys try any of this nonsense yourself, let me know, and I'll keep you posted! And let's all cross our fingers and toes for a Jedi rework in the next few months!

SamUX

I like jedi

But i wont ignore the arena meta

I spent my first year of this game farming for cls and now that my cls titans and chaze are well modded, palp lead with bad mods are beating me.

Did i waste all that time?
NO

- i have light side that can clear almost all the waves in LS TB
- my arena team can beat every team on offense (i switch out r2/gk for chaze against ns and some empire)
- my palp lead team is almost ready for arena

I didnt want JTR...but with the new sith raid, we will be much more valuable to our guilds when we get JTR

I never junped on the ns bandwagon because they are beatble and because they arent farmable yet. But i will gear them because they are a good team.

I wont say I'm good enough for my guild on light side, even though i get top 5 waves completed. I wont say my strength in light side is enough that i dont need dark side.

I'll just keep balancing the force as much as i can and going with the flow of the developers...when they update kits to be so good as JTR or Palp, i wont fight it. I need my arena crystals to gear my characters faster

Good luck with jedi if you decide your "fun" is there. My "fun" can be where the OP skills are.

"SamuraiUX;c-1482503" wrote:
If you guys try any of this nonsense yourself, let me know, and I'll keep you posted! And let's all cross our fingers and toes for a Jedi rework in the next few months!

I've been running zQGJ, JKA, Ezra, Hermit Yoda, and GK...all are maxxed G12 except HY because I haven't bothered to take him to 7 star yet. Basically they're garbage. I've been pondering gearing up Aayla and rotating out JKA because I think his AOE is more of a liability than its worth on defense, but, I can't justify wasting the gear at the moment.

Against CLS teams you generally get hurt more in counter attacks than you can hope to do off your attacks when you hit CLS or Han and when you hit R2 he'll stun you. Plus they'll wreck you when they start spreading out the slow and stuns and the only debuffs you get are JKA's...which usually get promptly removed if they have a zeta R2.

Against JTR teams you will generally never do enough damage to put them down before BB8 puts them into super buff mode.

Against NS teams w/acolyte cheese you can usually do alright thanks to JKA AOE...I guess here it will really depend on how good their Acolyte is. This was one of the reasons I went JKA over Aayla, but since the EP/DV reworks most the NS on my shard have disappeared.

Against EP/DV teams I've actually been doing pretty well. Vader will get first move and waste his AOE on your foresight. After that its just a matter of wrecking their EP before he lays out a bunch of stuns. People running tankless EP teams are super easy...most the rest will either have shore or sith trooper...so you just play accordingly. I doubt it works like this on defense because the AI would never be smart enough to focus EP down lol. Disclaimer though...I massively outmod most the teams I face and I don't think all the EPs are zetad...I'm hovering 50-100 in arena...if I were fighting EP/DV squads with similar mods I'd probably be getting wrecked as I doubt I'd so easily pick off EP with a Jedi squad before they even get to move.

Just another disclaimer...I plan on switching to EP/DV squad soon, and I'll be top 20 on my shard again. Jedi are really, really bad right now, and they're going to get even worse when people start getting Traya. Most of your damage comes from attacking out of turn...in my squad for example, Ezra, QGJ, GK, and HY all have assist attacks and they'll all be damaging themselves for assisting vs Traya. If I switch to Aayla that's another one. To top it off they don't have any of the top tier pilots/ships either. Jedi are pretty dead now, and once people get Traya, unless Jedi get some heavy reworks and boosts, Jedi will become such a bad faction that they'll actually just be a newbie trap to see how many foolish newbies will waste gear on them.

To me we already have some decent Jedi that don’t really need rework (but a rework would be nice, always) like Hermit Yoda, Ezra, General Kenobi, Old Ben (he should always be considered a Jedi) and Kanan, but major characters like Mace Windu who DID defeat Darth Sidious who was the strongest Sith in the galaxy, Anakin who was the “strongest” Jedi and Grand Master Yoda who doesn’t really need rework but would be nice to have something small added for him.

Besides that the Jedi to me seem pretty decent, but in the end they always fall from the Dark Side, from what history shows it. Still the Light Side will always overcome. :) I love the Jedi but it always has been a few who can master the art to overcome the true power of the Dark Side. Most of all the time the Sith already have knowledge about the Light Side of the force which “technically” means they have more knowledge about the force. But then there’s the few Jedi’s who learn about the Dark Side but are aware of what that force is about, like Yoda, who knows it’s about destruction, immortality and power. While the light side is for life, healing and balance.

zQGJ, Zarris, GK, zEzra, Visas Marr. You will have a good chance on offense. Defense, you will be destroyed. Though that does look like a fun team to run, for GW/TB/TW. For arena, you will move up the ranks everyday(500-200). But be in the same place as teams like Vader(L), Tarkin, Veers, Stormtrooper, RG.

Actually Jedi are already very powerful. A team of GK, Zariss has been meta for a while and if you want full Jedi just add in Zqgj, hermit Yoda, Grand Master Yoda, even Ayla if geared and modded right. Just take your pick. You just can’t count on weak Jedi like consular or guardian.

"SamuraiUX;d-161033" wrote:
Also, I don't want JTR that badly. I'm perfectly happy with my Resistance team as-is.

I'll assume that you and your guild also don't care about the new raid.