Is a non-Phoenix route now viable?

The alternative start that does not use fenix has problems. There are several conceptual issues for anyone who wants to do an FTP.

Geos and Brood Alpha -> Brood Alpha only unlocks level 83.
GRepublic Jedi -> What is the reason for being limited by the Jedi of the republic? None. Anakin is more complicated access than Bastila and without Padme, so far this team does not work. A purely Jedi plan is more solid and Erza himself and Kanan appear as accessible Jedi.
Ewoks -> Chirpa only in level 4 cantina and Teebo that the only other leader only in level 40? This team does nothing for their ship development.
Nightsisters -> Mother Talzin and Zumbi only level 8. The leaderships of Talia and Daka are much more than necessary, in addition to doing nothing for the ships, although it is a team is an irrefutable PVE investment.
Separatist Droids -> GG is more problematic than the Brood Alpha, since the 3 farm points of it that are separatist event, (requires Jedi or Ewok) Ship Shop (it rarely appears) or Fragment Store (the most inaccessible store for those who are starting out). We're not even talking about the B1 that's in phase 5 of the ships.

If the person loathes the phoenix to the point of not wanting to start with them ok. Indicate the only initial teams are the First Order or Bounty Hunters (which is the best choice to go after finishing the phoenix), with the warning that even phoenix without zetas can recover health and protection in a consistent way for GW. The first order depends on the KU zetas and the BHs are not available bossk at the beginning.

Considering the allied loan, being rebels they can receive a number of consistent allied help leaders for nodes 7, 8, and 9 including the CLS, Jyn, Wedge, and AA to make excellent synergies. For the First Order only Phasma or a generic leadership help.

I do not think people have to be limited to a single thought, but their suggestions seem to ignore the fact that the person starts the game at level 85 and not at level 1.

Also, just a consideration for people not starting with Phoenix: They are one of the easier teams to farm VERY early on, and you will end up farming them eventually anyways. That's why I decided to focus on them first, but it is still heavily weighted towards what you want to do in the game. I want to unlock all legendary toons, so Phoenix was the logical starting point for me.

The only reason that I wouldn't do Phoenix as my first team would be based on the luck of what you get in that first guaranteed character from your first ever 350 crystal Chromium pack.

IF, big if, IF, that pack unlocked either Bastila or Zombie then I would consider going with Jedi or NS first.

Those 2 characters are game changers for a Jedi or NS team respectively even at 2*.

In the case of Jedi, you convert from Ezra/Hera in Cantina to Ezra/Ben.
You still farm Kanan but you go Qui-Gon instead of Chopper in Cantina Store.

For NS you would push for Daka, Asaj, Acolyte, & Initiate to quickly get them up & running.

But short of those 2 draws, Phoenix all the way to start out.

Also opening up BH/Scoundrels early for Credit Heists after getting Phoenix open.

I would start farming JKR characters in LS/DS as soon as those Nodes open because they are VERY long farms.

First Order makes for an interesting alternative, but lacks the Legendary character access & you can always farm KyloU & Silencer when you hit 50 after Ezra/Hera are at least 5*.

BB8 (FO) & JKR are the first 2 events I'd push for post CLS completion (R2, Thrawn, Yoda, Palp otw to CLS)

The first pack is no longer a guaranteed unlock.

I would echo what someone else mentioned, Phoenix are really good for GW because of their healing. I haven’t tried it with baby FO or baby bounty hunters but baby Phoenix is great for GW.

"CaroCanon;c-1909490" wrote:
The first pack is no longer a guaranteed unlock.

When did that change?

Where is this confirmed?

I tried searching for the announcement but couldn’t find it. It’s well-documented. Also I started an alt the other day and my first pull was 10 Lando shards. I would say it’s been at least a year.

"Schwartzring;c-1909549" wrote:

"CaroCanon;c-1909490" wrote:
The first pack is no longer a guaranteed unlock.

When did that change?

Where is this confirmed?

It was a real long time ago. They did it to stop people from repeatedly restarting their account until they pulled a strong character from the free chromium.

"Schwartzring;c-1909549" wrote:

"CaroCanon;c-1909490" wrote:
The first pack is no longer a guaranteed unlock.

When did that change?

Where is this confirmed?

I believe it changed last summer when they added the light side and dark side only packs of data cards.

Phoenix are really easy to farm.
Galactic War is nearly a piece of cake; 50 wins (to auto) are acquired near lv 70.
They are usefull for Hoth; since they are hard to kill (even though they can't deal a lot of dmg)
Their Ships are good under Home One.
And at G9 you unlock Palpatine and Thrawn.
Then you have to swich to another team more efficient in arena.

I feel people are missing the point of this thread.....
I farmed Phoenix and followed the classical approach.
I was merely wondering if there’s a solid non-Phoenix route now e.g. FOrder and Jedi
Followed by BHs and JKR then DR (with nightsisters thrown in there somewhere).