Is ship arena broke?

"Rath_Tarr;c-1606459" wrote:

"Crazygone510;c-1606410" wrote:
I can see your argument and you do bring up a valid point regarding history. I can see it happening every now and then but not every single day. That's all Im trying to say. I just think the system is somewhat flawed. Like the OP said, what's the point of leveling gear and using resources to "improve" your fleet if the game allows someone who is far behind to just beat you?

One problem here is the power rating which completely fails to account for synergy between characters / ships. Not really surprising: with all the variables in play that is impractical if not impossible to do programmatically.

Those same variables make it difficult for a simple game AI to outmatch a Human and PVP in this game is really just PVE against a team picked by a Human.

I see similar things in Squad Arena where my mixed team needs a 20% power advantage vs high synergy teams like Phoenix and in fleet arena where my high synergy team and beat higher-powered teams.

But that synergy - certain character / ship combos working very well together is an intentional part of the game's design.

I agree 100% Synergy is most important and a big variable in battles. But what if it's the same fleet that you are using? And all your ships are very good with pilots in g12? Is that just RNG? And if it's RNG, why is it just slightly less powered fleets can't win in fleet battles?

And as far as power goes, that's just a way of showing the levels of gear, abilities, level of both pilot and ship, mods and so forth. Tanks have less power than others, capitol ships with more reinforcement slots will obviously have more power than those with less. That's not what I'm talking about here. I'm talking about losing against the same type of fleet as I am (little different reinforcement set up) with ships that are in some cases 10-15k less power than each in defense. G9 pilots with all skill levels at 4-5 beating g12 pilots with skill levels maxed with zetas just doesn't make any sense to me.

"DuneFlint;c-1606467" wrote:
Ships are not broken. People are trying to use the old meta because thats what ships they haf that were good. If you put effort into the new teams that gave synergy you would be fine.

What if both teams are using the same old meta then? Same thing happens......

"Crazygone510;c-1607004" wrote:
with zetas

Just so you know, zetas don't add much to your ships.

"Crazygone510;c-1607004" wrote:
I agree 100% Synergy is most important and a big variable in battles. But what if it's the same fleet that you are using? And all your ships are very good with pilots in g12? Is that just RNG? And if it's RNG, why is it just slightly less powered fleets can't win in fleet battles?

The difference is combination of choices and RNG. A Human player has far more flexibility in making choices, giving a smart player the edge against the AI.

I have beaten fleets up to 18k higher than mine. At that point there was a significant amount of RNG luck involved but had I not had a good fleet and made good choices I would have lost for sure. That same fleet with 20+k advantage had previously wiped the floor with me every time.

I regularly beat fleets 10k or so higher than mine with a combination of good fleet composition, good choices and to a lesser extent RNG. Those same fleets turn around and beat mjne when they are player controlled and mine is AI controlled.

"Rath_Tarr;c-1607020" wrote:

"Crazygone510;c-1607004" wrote:
I agree 100% Synergy is most important and a big variable in battles. But what if it's the same fleet that you are using? And all your ships are very good with pilots in g12? Is that just RNG? And if it's RNG, why is it just slightly less powered fleets can't win in fleet battles?

The difference is combination of choices and RNG. A Human player has far more flexibility in making choices, giving a smart player the edge against the AI.

I have beaten fleets up to 18k higher than mine. At that point there was a significant amount of RNG luck involved but had I not had a good fleet and made good choices I would have lost for sure. That same fleet with 20+k advantage had previously wiped the floor with me every time.

I regularly beat fleets 10k or so higher than mine with a combination of good fleet composition, good choices and to a lesser extent RNG. Those same fleets turn around and beat mjne when they are player controlled and mine is AI controlled.

10k-30k I have no issue with that because that's to be expected. But 50-100k less is another story.