Kylo Ren vs Dooku?

I'm very interested in Kylo. I'm gearing and leveling him little by little and it's kind of exciting to have a farmable character that has the tools he does. While he might not be the best or close to it, I bet he is a game changer with the right squad.

"TheVinegru;22039" wrote:

"AbysmalDarkside;21934" wrote:
Kylo, Dooku is just too frail for the latter stages of the game.

With 7 stars?

I have him 4 stars his shards are too difficult to farm but I imagine a Kylo 7 star is still better then a Dooku 7 star, Kylo just lasts longer & can take more hits, As opposed to dooku once a glass cannon always a glass cannon whether hes starred to 3 or starred to 7 his health will be low when compared to literally every other 7 star.

"Pure_Pazaak;21672" wrote:
Although, honestly, he's pretty interchangeable with either Dooku or Maul. Obviously both are squishy, but Dooku at least has a bit of staying power on defense with a chance to stun and potentially ability block as well. Unless you change your party to a more defensive composition on your last battle, Maul will get focused pretty darn easily on a team with no tank/Old Ben or anyone who can reliably force the enemy to change their priority targets via a powerful buff or debuff.

This being said, I do acknowledge defense is almost worthless without pulling a character that's usually only available by paying a lot to attain and then rank up, like Leia and Old Ben. Just saying it's worth considering, even if you plan to put building up Dooku to the side. Maul will almost guaranteed never get to 5 star or higher with the game as it is now. Might as well stun some of those annoying healers, like Luminara and Daka.

If we could pick our defense team separate from my offense I would completely do this :) and may still do it on my 5th battle to keep a stronger defense till chances are back.

Thanks for the suggestions all :) still gearing him up, currently gear 6 and has 2 slots filled, 3 more and he'll be equally geared compared to Dooku. So far his attack power exceeds Dookus and has 3k more hp, which is a hefty boost. His default attack hits slightly harder than Dookus, although Dooku can double attack, his aoe is stronger than his default but weaker than Dookus lightning and double attack. His third skill however is stronger than a crit on lightning, without critting and being below 50% hp. So it more than makes up for the dps Dooku gains on him. Plus with his passive he can use his third skill more often than Dooku is he is attacked.

Also Kylo still needs a but more gear to compare equally and all of it adds a lot to his sttack, and also need skill ups. With those I think the dmg advantage Dooku has on his first two skills compared to Kylo's first two will shirk considerably. Not to mention his third skill. Still yet to put him in the area, may wait till gear 7 just to get the most out of him.

Yeah my plan is to keep Dooku in until I get Kylo up or possibly Ventress. Dooku usually brings a lot of utility with his stuns, counters, and double attacks so he's worth more to me than his 4* would suggest.

As we see fewer and fewer Jedi teams though, Dooku will be worth less and less.

Kylos Outrage is money when it gets reset every turn (Stupid AI) even with out the 75% increase.

Dooku is just solid, attacks first most times, stun and counter. Dooku I find more situational against Jedi teams while Kylo is a lot more diverse.

I have a 6* kylo gear VII. He sits the bench. Maybe once I get the first order officer to 5* ill bring kylo out of retirement.
With that said, agreeing with whipit, i think kylo could be magic on the right team. Specifically an AoE team like Whipits.

It really depends. I tend to find Kylo lasts longer, but gets hit more often in fights, so unless you run a healing member, he gets one good high damage and then lights out. Dooku hit's a bit weaker, but the fact he can get I believe up to 4 attacks is pretty bs in it's own right.

In movies I think Dooku would've pawned Kylo. Yoda was no match for Dooku, then again Anakin beat Dooku, became Vader, then diluted his metachlirians twice with non-Jedi... Padmae and Han Solo... So Kylo has 1/4 the metachlorians than Vader. I think Dooku at his best easily would take 1/4 of Vader

"Qeltar;21677" wrote:
Funny as I was about to say they are very different characters and not really replaceable in most respects. Dooku has a stun, fast speed, low health, a reliable counter, and special abilities against Jedi. Kylo is slower, has an AoE, doesn't stun, has high health and special reset mechanisms. In some ways he's more like Sidious or Asajj than Dooku.

Yeah I Think Kylo is simply a better Sidious... After a while sids healing immunity starts to be resisted a lot due to no pitency. Kylo has more helath, a counter, AoE, decent basic, great potential damage when near low health. Kylo is great. I maxed him out and im currently farming Dooku in cantina. You don't need two healers honestly, not in PvP. You dont even need one, ive been running no healer and I'm usually in 100-50 area, and usually can enter top 50. Maybe try something without Sid or daka. We all know how great Lumi is, so you can keep her. But switch some stuff up, but you're lucky you have Maul, I want to obtain him, i have 1 shard.... Lmao

"Mephisto_style;168611" wrote:
In movies I think Dooku would've pawned Kylo. Yoda was no match for Dooku, then again Anakin beat Dooku, became Vader, then diluted his metachlirians twice with non-Jedi... Padmae and Han Solo... So Kylo has 1/4 the metachlorians than Vader. I think Dooku at his best easily would take 1/4 of Vader

In what world was Yoda no match for Dooku? Yoda was winning, so Dooku knocked down that support so that Yoda would save Anakin and Obi-Wan, allowing him time to flee.