Malevolence can beat Negotiator and Home One full auto

There may still be missing pieces as well.

"MD_Geist;d-219786" wrote:
currently Malevolence is beatable on defense so Community hasnt found the best lineup so far.

And it will probably stay that way. If someone expected a ship to completely corner the Negotiator already, this is not the one.

Kind of a bummer how Vulture seems doomed to die and resummon itself at the start even with 2 tanks alongside it. But hey, as long as it works.

"Jarvind;c-2017886" wrote:
Kind of a bummer how Vulture seems doomed to die and resummon itself at the start even with 2 tanks alongside it. But hey, as long as it works.

That’s kind of his purpose though. When a vulture droid dies it gives Malevolence TM right? You want to get 2-3 of them up and you want the AI to start dropping them. They are quickly replaceable and disposable by design right?

"Jarvind;c-2017979" wrote:

"JacenRoe;c-2017912" wrote:

"Jarvind;c-2017886" wrote:
Kind of a bummer how Vulture seems doomed to die and resummon itself at the start even with 2 tanks alongside it. But hey, as long as it works.

That’s kind of his purpose though. When a vulture droid dies it gives Malevolence TM right? You want to get 2-3 of them up and you want the AI to start dropping them. They are quickly replaceable and disposable by design right?

Yeah, I get it, it's just that like, you sink all these resources into the Vulture and then it just dies and summons one of the "generic" Vultures before it can do anything.

The vultures do a ton. Even the “generic” ones. The buzz droids and all the assists are pecking away at the enemy, and the TM to the Malevolence means they hurt you if you ignore them, and hurt you if you go after them. It’s just not one big, flashy move that does a lot all at once.

And the Vulture doesn’t require lots of resources. There is no character to max so it’s just some ship credits and mats. It’s a tiny fraction of the effort piloted ships require.

"JacenRoe;c-2017912" wrote:

"Jarvind;c-2017886" wrote:
Kind of a bummer how Vulture seems doomed to die and resummon itself at the start even with 2 tanks alongside it. But hey, as long as it works.

That’s kind of his purpose though. When a vulture droid dies it gives Malevolence TM right? You want to get 2-3 of them up and you want the AI to start dropping them. They are quickly replaceable and disposable by design right?

Yeah, I get it, it's just that like, you sink all these resources into the Vulture and then it just dies and summons one of the "generic" Vultures before it can do anything.

"Jarvind;c-2017979" wrote:

"JacenRoe;c-2017912" wrote:

"Jarvind;c-2017886" wrote:
Kind of a bummer how Vulture seems doomed to die and resummon itself at the start even with 2 tanks alongside it. But hey, as long as it works.

That’s kind of his purpose though. When a vulture droid dies it gives Malevolence TM right? You want to get 2-3 of them up and you want the AI to start dropping them. They are quickly replaceable and disposable by design right?

Yeah, I get it, it's just that like, you sink all these resources into the Vulture and then it just dies and summons one of the "generic" Vultures before it can do anything.

What are the stats based on?

"Bulldog1205;c-2017981" wrote:

"Jarvind;c-2017979" wrote:

"JacenRoe;c-2017912" wrote:

"Jarvind;c-2017886" wrote:
Kind of a bummer how Vulture seems doomed to die and resummon itself at the start even with 2 tanks alongside it. But hey, as long as it works.

That’s kind of his purpose though. When a vulture droid dies it gives Malevolence TM right? You want to get 2-3 of them up and you want the AI to start dropping them. They are quickly replaceable and disposable by design right?

Yeah, I get it, it's just that like, you sink all these resources into the Vulture and then it just dies and summons one of the "generic" Vultures before it can do anything.

What are the stats based on?

Beats me. It doesn't resummon in the same spot as the "real" Vulture though, so I was assuming it's the same as the ones the Malevolence summons when it uses a special.

"JacenRoe;c-2018041" wrote:

"Jarvind;c-2017979" wrote:

"JacenRoe;c-2017912" wrote:

"Jarvind;c-2017886" wrote:
Kind of a bummer how Vulture seems doomed to die and resummon itself at the start even with 2 tanks alongside it. But hey, as long as it works.

That’s kind of his purpose though. When a vulture droid dies it gives Malevolence TM right? You want to get 2-3 of them up and you want the AI to start dropping them. They are quickly replaceable and disposable by design right?

Yeah, I get it, it's just that like, you sink all these resources into the Vulture and then it just dies and summons one of the "generic" Vultures before it can do anything.

The vultures do a ton. Even the “generic” ones. The buzz droids and all the assists are pecking away at the enemy, and the TM to the Malevolence means they hurt you if you ignore them, and hurt you if you go after them. It’s just not one big, flashy move that does a lot all at once.

And the Vulture doesn’t require lots of resources. There is no character to max so it’s just some ship credits and mats. It’s a tiny fraction of the effort piloted ships require.

Do the summoned Vulture droids have the exact same skill descriptions as the actual owned ship? Or are there slight variations?

Also as much as I love the vulture droid dropping and giving TM, it's reinforcement ability is actually super useful with the blind an extra buzz droids.

Note that summoned ones currently dont apply BI so either its a Bug or only avaible with Malevolence at 7*.

Overall Malevolence Kit gets more from 7* than Negotiator so i bet it Balance Out more once maxed. While clever Players can outplay Malevolence easily the AI cant so this ship (Like NS) should be a good Option to Beat whales in Front of you (currently 5* Malevolence can beat maxed Negotiators fleets!) and the ability to even Auto Negotiator and Home One is a good Casual way to get some top Ranks If you cant Race your shards (majority of Players) since Mirrors (H1 and Negotiator can quickly favour the Spenders).

Didnt drop Out of top20 the last days with Malevolence in a shard full of Negotiator which isnt bad even If it is beatable.