Negotiator advice needed

I was going to start my own thread, but this might be related:

I'm still running Ackbar (my Negotiator is only level 76 because I was dumb about ship-currency)...Ack is g12+ with 6-star mods, so his ship is pretty maxed short of g13.

Frequently in battle with a Negotiator, I'll see the enemy take more than one capital-ship turn between my own capship's moves. I can't see a mechanism for this.

Negotiator's speed doesn't outstrip AA's, so it's not that. I see nothing in the Negotiator's kit, or the kit of the usual fighters that people use with it, which should grant Negotiator extra TM or take TM away from AA.

A guildmate thought maybe it's a bug: Ships with Valor grant extra TM to Mace Windu's capship. However, Kenobi's ship has no such verbiage in its kit.

Any ideas? Has anyone else noticed this?

Valor is Valor no matter who is granting it.

The Valor definition is: "Grant the Endurance 15% Turn Meter and reduce its ultimate ability's cooldown by 1 at end of turn."

It says Endurance. It does NOT say "capital ship."

If it is supposed to be good for any capital ship, or even just for GR capital ships (just in case more ever show up), the text should reflect that.

And before someone says, "Well, what's the point of Valor in a Negotiator fleet," I'll point out that the Negotiator makes Valor worth an extra 10% more damage for each ally who has it, doubled for Jedi, so Valor already has a role with Neg.

"DocDoom;c-1986782" wrote:
The Valor definition is: "Grant the Endurance 15% Turn Meter and reduce its ultimate ability's cooldown by 1 at end of turn."

It says Endurance. It does NOT say "capital ship."

If it is supposed to be good for any capital ship, or even just for GR capital ships (just in case more ever show up), the text should reflect that.

I think we can safely assume that they just went with the only GR capital at the time (ships are like 2 years old) and forgot to update the description.

Lame? Yes, but also fully on-brand for CG.

Valor is definitely granting TM to Negotiator. It probably shouldn’t, based on the description, but it does. You’ll also notice that sometimes unending loyalty doesn’t expire correctly, giving Anakins starfighter undispellable invulnerability for 3 turns. I think they’re still working out the bugs.

"Dirty_Litle_Smuggler;c-1986943" wrote:
I think they’re still working out the bugs.

Have been for almost 4 years....soon.

In regards to OP, the opposing JKA likely targeted either 5s or JKA with his special in the first couple moves prior to HT taunt coming up. This inflicts buff immunity, which means that you did your daze AOE and only got one ship with valor, he immediately responded with his daze AOE and had 2 ships with valor, getting ahead in both the TM train after the next round of fighter attacks and getting ahead of you in the ultimate ability cooldown game.

Mobilize: Deal Physical damage to all enemies and Daze them for 2 turns. Inflict Target Lock for 2 turns on 2 random enemies that aren't already Target Locked. All allies gain 30% Turn Meter. Grant all Galactic Republic allies Valor for 2 turns, then all allies with Valor are called to assist.

"All allies gain 30% Turn Meter" applies to the Negotiator as well. This could explain some confusion.

WAI. Just described wrong in Mace's kit.

"ASG_FROZEN;c-1997658" wrote:

"Woodroward;c-1997656" wrote:
WAI. Just described wrong in Mace's kit.

Or a bug, caused nothing of this standing in the kit of Negotiator.

Absolutely not. Doesn't matter if the buff description is in Negotiator's kit or not. Valor does what Valor does. Absolutely 100% certainly working as intended (valor).

Though Mace's kit description is bugged since it doesn't say GR cap ship.