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7 years ago
My quotes and responses below are not in chronological order. I put my second zeta on Ventress's unique to use in HAAT last night. Unfortunately, her gear isn't up there yet so she died pretty early on. I'll have another Zeta in 5 days or less, though so I still need a Zeta plan.
It absolutely is true. In the rare event that I see CLS and R2 in the top 20, it's a free guaranteed kill that I easily crush. They are a joke. Maybe they're good if you're not farming first in squad arena every day, at ranks 50+ or 100+ or something.
I'm very opinionated because I've been very successful at squad and fleet arena. I get 1 or 2 for my payout almost every day in squad and first in fleet. I've also made very rapid progress in general with Legendary farms.
All this is because I received and followed very good advice here on the forums. But now I've reached a point where I've followed that advice to its conclusion (when I finish my JTR farm) and now I need more.
JTR teams are garbage in arena too. They are easy free kills like CLS teams. For me, anyway. There is a reason why EP nightmare, Traya, and Bastila are meta. Maybe you're on some bizarre shard that doesn't have meta teams, or maybe you're talking about low ranks (20+, 50+ or 100+).
Thank you for at least giving me a specific purpose for R2. Yeah, he's used with JTR, but like I said, I won't get JTR for at least 2 months. If JTR comes back this month, I won't get her until she comes back in 4+ months. That means JTR and R2 zetas are definitely not a priority. I'm not going to save a zeta for 4 months when I'll make 8+ Zetas in that time. Like I said, LS TB and TW are not a consideration for me at this time.
It's the same thing with CLS. HAAT only pretty much. Ventress I'll actually be using in STR because I'll be building a NIghtsister team as soon as I finish farming Vets.
Thanks for giving detailed, sensible advice. So you think NIghtsisters might become less uesful for STR? How does making the raid easier make NIghtsisters worse at it?
My EP is G12+ with 4/5 pieces of 12+ gear. So I might get his Zeta soon, thanks, you're the first to advocate for it. I'm doing fine in arena, but more security never hurts.
Yeah, I actually get #1 or 2 every day for my payout. I could get 1 every day but I rotate with a friend in my payout. Obviously, it doesn't stay at that rank after my payout when the other payouts take their turn at the top slots.
Thanks, I've been wanting to Zeta EP's unique for a while but was advised against it in tha past. With you and CaptainFizz recommending it I'm seriously considering it. I kind of want Vader's unique as well, not sure. I don't face a lot of TMR in arena but more healing is always helpful.
Yeah I went ahead and got the Assaj unique in case you missed it at the top of this post. Didn't fare too well on my first go but I don't have her gear up to par yet.
Hmm, I can already solo p1 HAAT with CLS only, though. I could do it without IBAT, and IBAT already made it much easier. Not sure spending a Zeta to make it even easier is worth it. TB/TW isn't really a consideration for me until I have all my raid/event teams set. I don't plan on changing guilds/guild shopping.
I hear about R2 a lot but I don't have a specific team in mind that includes him. The next raid team I'm planning on is Nightsisters. Like you said yourself, I won't be gettng JTR anytime soon.
How is CLS used in STR, if that's what you were suggesting? Haven't seen a team with him on it, and have been wondering because I'm not having much success with him in that raid.
"CoastalJames;c-1638598" wrote:"Letareus;c-1638465" wrote:
[However "strong" the R2/CLS duo, it's garbage in arena...
This is clearly not remotely true. Your position is deeply odd. You seem very opinionated for someone asking advice.
It absolutely is true. In the rare event that I see CLS and R2 in the top 20, it's a free guaranteed kill that I easily crush. They are a joke. Maybe they're good if you're not farming first in squad arena every day, at ranks 50+ or 100+ or something.
I'm very opinionated because I've been very successful at squad and fleet arena. I get 1 or 2 for my payout almost every day in squad and first in fleet. I've also made very rapid progress in general with Legendary farms.
All this is because I received and followed very good advice here on the forums. But now I've reached a point where I've followed that advice to its conclusion (when I finish my JTR farm) and now I need more.
"Kullervo79;c-1638604" wrote:
R2's number crunch is a great zeta! Makes you whole (light side) team better. Yes, there are not many CLS lead teams in arena anymore, but R2 is there with JTR and BB-8. JTR you will also need in HSTR. R2 is also great in LS TB and TW.
JTR teams are garbage in arena too. They are easy free kills like CLS teams. For me, anyway. There is a reason why EP nightmare, Traya, and Bastila are meta. Maybe you're on some bizarre shard that doesn't have meta teams, or maybe you're talking about low ranks (20+, 50+ or 100+).
Thank you for at least giving me a specific purpose for R2. Yeah, he's used with JTR, but like I said, I won't get JTR for at least 2 months. If JTR comes back this month, I won't get her until she comes back in 4+ months. That means JTR and R2 zetas are definitely not a priority. I'm not going to save a zeta for 4 months when I'll make 8+ Zetas in that time. Like I said, LS TB and TW are not a consideration for me at this time.
"EdSolo;c-1638832"You are still a ways off from being ready for JTR, so there isn't a need to save zetas for her yet.
It's the same thing with CLS. HAAT only pretty much. Ventress I'll actually be using in STR because I'll be building a NIghtsister team as soon as I finish farming Vets.
"FailingCrab;c-1638666" wrote:
Here is my zeta plan from start to the foreseeable future. I am at least as 'successful' as you.
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From 12 onwards I'll see how the state of play is. I was thinking talzin lead for P3 or Daka unique but with a nerf inbound that's not sensible right now. If the nerf makes them useless then I'll go for Veers unique - > bastila lead - > GMY - > Bossk - > Ezra - > OB - > Hoda unless new str teams become apparent.
Thanks for giving detailed, sensible advice. So you think NIghtsisters might become less uesful for STR? How does making the raid easier make NIghtsisters worse at it?
"CaptainFizz;c-1638710" wrote:
We can't really decide for you......
My next zetas are going on future HSTR teams. In order of essential to most damage improving.
If you want to do better in raids, decide what teams you will use, gear them up, Zeta as required.
If it's arena, stick the zetas on, they all help. I found EP didn't get killed in opening rounds with unique but only after G12.
So decide what teams you want to use in what areas, Zeta leads then the most useful / damage increasing one's.
My EP is G12+ with 4/5 pieces of 12+ gear. So I might get his Zeta soon, thanks, you're the first to advocate for it. I'm doing fine in arena, but more security never hurts.
"EdSolo;c-1638832" wrote:
You seem to be doing fine in arena with your current rank of #2. Honestly, I would be tempted to put zetas on Palp's and Vader's uniques just to finish off your current team and add a bit of cushion.
Yeah, I actually get #1 or 2 every day for my payout. I could get 1 every day but I rotate with a friend in my payout. Obviously, it doesn't stay at that rank after my payout when the other payouts take their turn at the top slots.
"EdSolo;c-1638832" wrote:
Not sure what teams you face, but having Vader immune to TM reduction and extra protection on Palps are definitely helpful.
Thanks, I've been wanting to Zeta EP's unique for a while but was advised against it in tha past. With you and CaptainFizz recommending it I'm seriously considering it. I kind of want Vader's unique as well, not sure. I don't face a lot of TMR in arena but more healing is always helpful.
"EdSolo;c-1638832" wrote:
With the Thrawn unique already in place, you really only need an Assaj unique for the AA lead, BB-8, CLS, Thrawn, Assaj team for HAAT raids. If you have them strong enough you can solo both P3 and P4, which could easily earn the number one spot for the raid.
Yeah I went ahead and got the Assaj unique in case you missed it at the top of this post. Didn't fare too well on my first go but I don't have her gear up to par yet.
"EdSolo;c-1638832" wrote:
As for Luke's other unique, it is great for the CLS only team in P1 of HAAT. The 50% counter is nice to have as well as the other bonuses. His leader zeta you can pass on. I didn't zeta that one for quite some time. It can be useful in TB/TW though. # Crunch on R2 is great as well since R2 can work on so many different teams.
Hmm, I can already solo p1 HAAT with CLS only, though. I could do it without IBAT, and IBAT already made it much easier. Not sure spending a Zeta to make it even easier is worth it. TB/TW isn't really a consideration for me until I have all my raid/event teams set. I don't plan on changing guilds/guild shopping.
I hear about R2 a lot but I don't have a specific team in mind that includes him. The next raid team I'm planning on is Nightsisters. Like you said yourself, I won't be gettng JTR anytime soon.
"EdSolo;c-1638832" wrote:
Not sure where your guild is in terms of the sith raid, so I can't recommend going for any of those zetas at this point. Honestly, CLS has always been more useful for me than JTR and have all three zetas on both.
How is CLS used in STR, if that's what you were suggesting? Haven't seen a team with him on it, and have been wondering because I'm not having much success with him in that raid.
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