Hey, everyone! Wanna ask some tips on running NS on competitive lvl in arena (top 10, why not?)Here is my arena team, and it’s strange:https://swgoh.gg/u/metlazhizni/It’s Daka+Assaj+Zombie...and KRU with Bobba.So, here are the questions to help me create true NS team for arena.1. MT or Assaj lead?2. Assuming Daka+MT+Zombi+Assaj who should be the last? Acolyte? Spirit? Top2 guy in my shard have Talia:)3. Should I keep Zombie as low as possible? (Looks like the answer is yes, according the other treads)Also would love to see some advices on tactics. Right now my shard is 90% Empire/Smith, and i could make it to top 50 only with good control from 2Turn stun from KRU, and mass ability block with Bobba, because looks like if Empire starts to hit, they wouldn’t stop until you die:(With pure NS team looks like you relies even more heavily on Daka and Assaj stuns, but they’re random...So would love to know from pro NS runners how to beat that Emperors, Trawns, DNs and Vader’s)

"Smygelfh;c-1574750" wrote:Spirit is faster than Vader. That means you have a reliable stun to prevent the Vader-Palpatine combo that will make them go first and stun and kill off your team before you get to move. Talia is slow, and she will likely not get the chance to cleanse anything if the opponents Palp and Nihilus are allowed to move before them.Spirit is by no means faster than Vader in a full sith/empire squad. Spirit's base speed is 153, Vader's base speed is 121, but Vader gets +8 speed for each Empire and Sith ally so in a full sith/empire team (with himself and EP double counting) his effective base speed is already 177. Equal modding Spirit will never go before Vader....

Some players add in Zolo as their 5th versus sith teams on offense for hist initial stun.

https://swgoh.gg/u/poxx70/Top 10 daily on a launch shard. Don't fall below 20-25 overnite. They face down Traya leads, EP leads...beat JTR on auto. It's a beast and I highly suggest it if u wanna run NS and b successful.All the tmr plus the self-damaging skills Talia has just give her god speed under an Asajj lead and that cleanse...so handy. The tm gains and tmr r insane. Topping off the team w/ her basic so they gain 50% tm when they fall below full again just speeds them along even more and enssures u beat the mirror match (MT lead NS) on auto. Talia is the secret sauce for NS but she is meh under a MT lead...MT lead is garbage btw. U r banking on your team dying. I may lose a NS other than zombie in 10% of my fights and when I do, Daka has her right back up or MT special gets a kill and brings back Daka if she's the 1 I lost but I have her so prot/health heavy, that w/ her zeta and Zombie deaths...she's a pseudo tank. Bank on your team dying...or keep their team from going...easy choice. O.o the +30% offense under Asajj is handy as well. Watching Talia's special pull off a 30k crit makes me smile.

"VonZant;c-1575309" wrote:@Smygelfh What star level does spirit need to be viable in TW? I had no idea she was that fast. Depends on what you're facing... I started having better success with her over Acolyte around 5*/G11 I think. As with many arena chars, enough speed to get off that stun is of course most important.

I am not familiar with NS as I am just starting to build mine for STR.I have learned a lot from this thread.

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VertigoBeast
7 years ago
"Smygelfh;c-1574750" wrote:
Spirit is faster than Vader. That means you have a reliable stun to prevent the Vader-Palpatine combo that will make them go first and stun and kill off your team before you get to move. Talia is slow, and she will likely not get the chance to cleanse anything if the opponents Palp and Nihilus are allowed to move before them.

Spirit is by no means faster than Vader in a full sith/empire squad. Spirit's base speed is 153, Vader's base speed is 121, but Vader gets +8 speed for each Empire and Sith ally so in a full sith/empire team (with himself and EP double counting) his effective base speed is already 177. Equal modding Spirit will never go before Vader....
Waquira
7 years ago
Some players add in Zolo as their 5th versus sith teams on offense for hist initial stun.
Poxx70
7 years ago
https://swgoh.gg/u/poxx70/

Top 10 daily on a launch shard. Don't fall below 20-25 overnite. They face down Traya leads, EP leads...beat JTR on auto. It's a beast and I highly suggest it if u wanna run NS and b successful.

All the tmr plus the self-damaging skills Talia has just give her god speed under an Asajj lead and that cleanse...so handy. The tm gains and tmr r insane. Topping off the team w/ her basic so they gain 50% tm when they fall below full again just speeds them along even more and enssures u beat the mirror match (MT lead NS) on auto. Talia is the secret sauce for NS but she is meh under a MT lead...

MT lead is garbage btw. U r banking on your team dying. I may lose a NS other than zombie in 10% of my fights and when I do, Daka has her right back up or MT special gets a kill and brings back Daka if she's the 1 I lost but I have her so prot/health heavy, that w/ her zeta and Zombie deaths...she's a pseudo tank.

Bank on your team dying...or keep their team from going...easy choice. O.o the +30% offense under Asajj is handy as well. Watching Talia's special pull off a 30k crit makes me smile.
Elakhasth
7 years ago
"VonZant;c-1575309" wrote:
@Smygelfh What star level does spirit need to be viable in TW? I had no idea she was that fast.

Depends on what you're facing... I started having better success with her over Acolyte around 5*/G11 I think. As with many arena chars, enough speed to get off that stun is of course most important.
sharkley1981
7 years ago
I am not familiar with NS as I am just starting to build mine for STR.
I have learned a lot from this thread.
VenikSmerti
7 years ago
Yeah, very interesting discussion appeared) and what i’ve learned here - I need to farm them all:)
DVZR
7 years ago
Crit Damage on Asajj. 216%
YKMisfit
Rising Novice
7 years ago
I've been running NS in arena, but I'm nowhere near Top 10.

I use Asajj lead because I have both her zetas and I used to find KRU impossible to kill when I ran Talzin. This might be less of a concern now since my toons are more developed and have better mods than they did when I ran MT. Also, I see less FO teams in my shard (mostly some variation of Nightmare) these days.

In both Asajj and MT lead teams, you're probably going to want zombie in there. Ditto for Daka. If you run a MT lead, especially with her leadership zeta, you'll want Acolyte as the 5th. I think you can probably get away with any of Talia/Acolyte/Spirit under Asajj. I use Talia for her cleanse, but I'm thinking of the damage and foresight from Spirit might be better especially since Talia's cleanse just feeds TM to the opponent when EP gets his zeta.
Elakhasth
7 years ago
Talzin (L) - Asajj - Daka - Zombie - Spirit is probably the strongest NS team, it can defeat anything on offense with similar mod level and holds decently on def. You will want to have a strong General Kenobi to switch in against troopers if you run a weak zombie. If you run with a strong zombie you will defeat troopers as well.
Elakhasth
7 years ago
Spirit is faster than Vader. That means you have a reliable stun to prevent the Vader-Palpatine combo that will make them go first and stun and kill off your team before you get to move. Talia is slow, and she will likely not get the chance to cleanse anything if the opponents Palp and Nihilus are allowed to move before them.