Pretty safe to say the new falcon just broke the game. Looks like i wont make top twenty for six months. One more reason to quit playing

It's the first Legendary non-capital ship in the game, of course it's powerful. Did you really expect different?

Yeah. Honestly. It's insanely good. Drop the cleanse and it's still the best ship in the game by a mile.

"PeterBahama;c-1754575" wrote:"ThisYeezy;c-1754574" wrote:It's the first Legendary non-capital ship in the game, of course it's powerful. Did you really expect different?He didn't say he didn't expect it. He's just arguing that it shouldn't be that powerfulWhy should the most iconic ship in Star Wars lore that people have wanted since the day ships was announced not be that powerful? You have to build a rebel fleet around it to unlock it's full potential, so it's not a plug and play ship like Hound's Tooth was in it's prime meaning you could argue it's not powerful enough. It's like Darth Traya in her prime, unless you were using her with the Triumvirate she was just another good character.

"Vertigo;c-1754601" wrote:"John_Matrix1985;c-1754594" wrote:Fought it twice and won easily both times. Will have to check pilot stats to see if the accompanying ships were maxed out What were you using and what was the enemy fleet? Just curious how they compare to what I've been seeing. I've beaten a couple falcon teams so far, but mainly the key is to kill the falcon asap. Cassian's U-Wing has been of great assistance. As has the TIE silencer in stunning the falcon before it can go. (But hey isn't the Falcon supposed to be the fastest ship in the galaxy... ;))https://youtu.be/CGsM31Y4eXc4 from 4 to take 1

"ThisYeezy;c-1754590" wrote:"PeterBahama;c-1754575" wrote:"ThisYeezy;c-1754574" wrote:It's the first Legendary non-capital ship in the game, of course it's powerful. Did you really expect different?He didn't say he didn't expect it. He's just arguing that it shouldn't be that powerfulWhy should the most iconic ship in Star Wars lore that people have wanted since the day ships was announced not be that powerful? You have to build a rebel fleet around it to unlock it's full potential, so it's not a plug and play ship like Hound's Tooth was in it's prime meaning you could argue it's not powerful enough. It's like Darth Traya in her prime, unless you were using her with the Triumvirate she was just another good character.Because this "iconic" ship already exists in the game... twice. It would be more iconic if the first one didn't need rey (lol) and then the 2nd one look disfigured and require young solo movie that many didn't see. We finally get the real Falcon but it does feel less iconic being the third one, even if its the only real one. But man, they really made it op. Like super op. it can be strong and not op, but CG wanted em cashies.

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trystanspyder
6 years ago
"CoastalJames;c-1754932" wrote:

How many newly-introduced characters have I heard were supposed to do this?

And none of them have.

I dunno - Revan came pretty close.
trystanspyder
6 years ago
"Roopehunter;c-1754953" wrote:
"CoastalJames;c-1754932" wrote:
"ottomaddux;d-193257" wrote:
Pretty safe to say the new falcon just broke the game.

How many newly-introduced characters have I heard were supposed to do this?

And none of them have.

Both ht and jkr did.

HT hasn't broken anything - just like Nest hasn't. Well, it may have broken the minds of people who think one team should rule all, but it certainly didn't break the game.
Nikoms565
6 years ago
"Trystan_Spyder;c-1754956" wrote:
"Roopehunter;c-1754953" wrote:
"CoastalJames;c-1754932" wrote:
"ottomaddux;d-193257" wrote:
Pretty safe to say the new falcon just broke the game.

How many newly-introduced characters have I heard were supposed to do this?

And none of them have.

Both ht and jkr did.

HT hasn't broken anything - just like Nest hasn't. Well, it may have broken the minds of people who think one team should rule all, but it certainly didn't break the game.

No, neither broke the game per se - but both are poor kit design. Logically, getting "stronger" by being hit repeatedly, even whilst stunned, makes no sense (unless you are the Hulk). Nest is the far worse offender of the two though (and yes, I have a g12+ Nest - so no, I'm not complaining about a character I can't beat or don't have).

But whatever. CG made it clear 17 months ago that they don't give a rip about player experience and prefer to look at bottom line and income as their only guiding principles. Looks like they have learned well from their "parent" company.
Nikoms565
6 years ago
"Ultra;c-1755010" wrote:
HT does what Nest does but even worse
-Taunt; Unlike Nest you can't ignore him
-Tank that doesn't die and gains TM if you ignore him so he can retaunt
-Taunt reapplies if you dispel it or if it expires
-Counters by healing or buff immunitiy? No problem, basic dispels all debuffs on him
-Regenerates health AND protection on basic

I'm running a 7 star Hounds Tooth, but even I know how cheap this ship is

All you have to do is look at the fact that 98% of the people that have HT run HT - that tells you all you need to know.

I love how "Ships 2.0 created diversity". lol - yeah, no it didn't. It just forced a different meta...that virtually anyone who can, runs.
NyKynoe
6 years ago
"TheBatman;c-1755260" wrote:
Nothing in my roster can beat him. Has anyone found any lineups that can beat Falcon that don't require having the Falcon? The only way to shut down the massive number of assists would be to daze with Resistance X-wing or Poe, but X-wing is really slow and Poe requires a TL to have a chance at land a daze, which is easier said than done when any debuffs you apply are getting dispelled constantly.

Cassian.
DVZR
6 years ago
I fought 3 falcons tonight and Cassian won it each time. Wipe buffs and call your biggest hitter (mine is Vader) to assist on HT or hopefully Falcon. Cassian can also cleanse Breach from your tank to defang the Tooth.

And its early but honestly I think Biggs and Sun Fac (and perhaps Clone Sarge) are far better tanks against Falcon because of her dispel on Basic and she can cleanse his breach. Biggs + Vader constantly refreshes his taunt and heals his protection, which HT cannot do. Clone sarge always gains taunt with protection and SF gets it against Buffed enemies. Falcon will almost always be buffed. In short, the Falcon is the death of HT. Mace fleets with non-HT tanks should do great against it.
NicWester
6 years ago
"VonZant;c-1755390" wrote:
And its early but honestly I think Biggs and Sun Fac (and perhaps Clone Sarge) are far better tanks against Falcon because of her dispel on Basic and she can cleanse his breach. ... Clone sarge always gains taunt with protection. ...

On the subject of Clone Sgt, don't forget that his special can't be dodged, so if you can target Falcon it's not going to be dodging. A little less important than the taunt, of course, but his special is highly under-rated!
trystanspyder
6 years ago
"Ultra;c-1755010" wrote:
HT does what Nest does but even worse
-Taunt; Unlike Nest you can't ignore him
-Tank that doesn't die and gains TM if you ignore him so he can retaunt
-Taunt reapplies if you dispel it or if it expires
-Counters by healing or buff immunitiy? No problem, basic dispels all debuffs on him
-Regenerates health AND protection on basic

I'm running a 7 star Hounds Tooth, but even I know how cheap this ship is

His taunt is easily dispelled if there's no breach in play. And his cooldown on his special + his low speed means that if you dispel it you've got a turn or two before he can re-apply. (yes I know he gets tm when allies are hit).

HT isn't some mythic beast that needs divine intervention to beat - it was killable before HMF, and with HMF it dies as easily as Biggs.
KyoO1234
6 years ago

Guess what all those guys are running...

I don’t need to say more. And I don’t need the CG goons explain to me that I just didn’t find the right strategy yet or haven’t built out my fleet brought. Because that just translates into: you have not spent enough money yet.

It’s just bad game design...
Nikoms565
6 years ago

The diversity is AWESOME!!!1! Some of them even have the ships in different places in the picture. WOW!!

Now, let's compare that incredible fleet diversity (what I refer to as the "Rock, Rock or Rock?" fleet meta) to what actual "Rock, Paper, Scissors" diversity actually looks like:

Please note: you can tell by the times on both, that these were taken just now, 2 minutes apart. This is not some "cherry picked" sample. And then CG (and apparently some of the posters here) wonder why people can be bothered with fleet 2.zero.