If you haven't heard the news, some of the testing with Darth Revan has revealed an insanely powerful team. I'm as glad as the next guy that it beats Jedi Knight Revan, but at the same time, the mirror matches basically come down to who is fastest to get both shocked and plague on the field, which means there is no solution without better speed. Most of the other current metas can be beaten with slower speed mods if you are either lucky or smarter than the AI.The video goes over the interaction here: https://youtu.be/-ApGufNgvTcBut yeah, I think that this interaction is not healthy for the game. Possibly would be helpful if shock and plague can't coexist at the same time (plague dispels shock and/healing immunity)

JKR wasn’t healthy for the game, but he’s never been nerfed, so why would they nerf DR or Talzin?

Because it's not just Jedi Knight Revan it beats, it makes mirror matches a nightmare. A slower jedi knight revan can beat a faster jedi knight revan for example. That being said, a slower darth revan of this team varian can't beat a faster one.And the nerf shouldn't go to their kits, but the interaction between the two debuffs. I suggested that plague dispels shock or healing immunity, you can suggest another way to fix it.

Mirror match is already about who's faster anyway. What changed with that?

"Kyno;c-1818126" wrote:I didnt see him try to mark MT first. Then it's just a normal interaction. Same works for taking down thrawn first in the other setup.Talzin rezzezes from Zombie. Have to get fear on Talzin first I think.

I'm all for letting this run wild for a bit if it stops all the "DARF REVUN R NAWT GUD ENUF" crap.

Probably Should Nerf the Interaction Between Plague and Shock/Healing Immunity

Iy4oy4s
New Novice
6 years ago
JKR wasn’t healthy for the game, but he’s never been nerfed, so why would they nerf DR or Talzin?
mesa176750
6 years ago
Because it's not just Jedi Knight Revan it beats, it makes mirror matches a nightmare. A slower jedi knight revan can beat a faster jedi knight revan for example. That being said, a slower darth revan of this team varian can't beat a faster one.

And the nerf shouldn't go to their kits, but the interaction between the two debuffs. I suggested that plague dispels shock or healing immunity, you can suggest another way to fix it.
Basilory
6 years ago
Mirror match is already about who's faster anyway.
What changed with that?
DVZR
6 years ago
"Kyno;c-1818126" wrote:
I didnt see him try to mark MT first. Then it's just a normal interaction.

Same works for taking down thrawn first in the other setup.

Talzin rezzezes from Zombie. Have to get fear on Talzin first I think.
Vaderizer
Seasoned Newcomer
6 years ago
I'm all for letting this run wild for a bit if it stops all the "DARF REVUN R NAWT GUD ENUF" crap.
Rodney_Sexfart
6 years ago
"Tabub;c-1818216" wrote:
Make it where when you have plague all debuffs EXCEPT shock and healing immunity cannot be cleansed, boom fixed

As soon as non old republic Jedi can not gain any bonuses from old republic characters. Boom fixed.
Elakhasth
6 years ago
Start with: Remove "can't be resisted" from the game. Remove "can't be evaded" from the game.

Now we have some options when being slower.

Follow up with: Change tenacity up to be just that (instead of immunity). Implement diminish returns on debuffs. Possibly even on buffs.

Now we have removed a lot of loops and permanent stun locks. All that's left to look at is loops due to resists which might be a mechanic that also needs to go for a healthy game.
ImTheChampion13
6 years ago
...or, you could run something other than Revan against DR. I could see Rebels or Resistance taking this team down, since both can control Talzin without killing her.
JDK1234567890
6 years ago
This team is easy to beat:

https://youtu.be/HJd89BsaVoQ

The drevan team is well moded and fast, but not yet fully zetaed (missing one hk47 Zeta, which shouldn't make a big difference so)...
basemhamid712
6 years ago
Please stop with the nerf trash. You cant stop every possible combination that creative people put together.

To change interactions would mean to change their kits.

Also it opens the door to subjectivity and tweaking ever single interaction

Talzins thing is plague
dr is fear and shock.

It is what it is