Question regarding GMY bonus turn from Masterstroke

"Waqui;c-1928948" wrote:

"jhbuchholz;c-1928802" wrote:

"DuneFlint;c-1928797" wrote:
It's not gmy's master strike, but thrawns mechanics on gg don't specify the target is guranteed the next turn.



But according to the dev post it is.

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/179554/content-update-8-22-2018

I'm aware of that (wasn't aware there was a dev post on GMY) and now I think we're having a circular conversation. Have to read ability... mechanics... dev posts... blah blah blah.

... or you could read my replies to you, do a couple of tests in-game and see if I'm right or not.

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I don't think you could have missed the point more. I'm not arguing with how it works. I don't care if you're right or wrong. My point is, as a new person picking up the game today, there is no way in game to know that "bonus turn", "immediate bonus turn", and "100% TM" aren't all the same.

I guess the best solution is to change all of the ability description to, "good ask Waquai, he participated in the discussions."

Also, this is a crap answer that further proves my point:

"Waqui;c-1928946" wrote:

Feel free to test it yourself.

You shouldn't have to test a stand alone ability. This says enough about the poor description writing in game.

(Repost after spam filter ate first post)

"jhbuchholz;c-1928993" wrote:

"Waqui;c-1928948" wrote:

"jhbuchholz;c-1928802" wrote:

"DuneFlint;c-1928797" wrote:
It's not gmy's master strike, but thrawns mechanics on gg don't specify the target is guranteed the next turn.



But according to the dev post it is.

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/179554/content-update-8-22-2018

I'm aware of that (wasn't aware there was a dev post on GMY) and now I think we're having a circular conversation. Have to read ability... mechanics... dev posts... blah blah blah.

... or you could read my replies to you, do a couple of tests in-game and see if I'm right or not.

?‍♂️

I don't think you could have missed the point more. I'm not arguing with how it works. I don't care if you're right or wrong.

You requested examples of the difference between 100% bonus TM and a bonus turn. Please answer me what kind of examples, you request. Please be a bit more specific (since for me the difference as I described it is clear).

My point is, as a new person picking up the game today, there is no way in game to know that "bonus turn", "immediate bonus turn", and "100% TM" aren't all the same.

Different wording in-game indicates that there most likely is a difference. Seems obvious to me - apparently not to you.

I guess the best solution is to change all of the ability description to, "good ask Waquai, he participated in the discussions."

Don't be silly. This is a discussion on the forums. What you posted in your first comment was obviously wrong. That's your fault - not mine. Now, you can take my word for it, or you can verify it in-game with a few simple tests. It's all up to you.

Also, this is a crap answer that further proves my point:

"Waqui;c-1928946" wrote:

Feel free to test it yourself.

You shouldn't have to test a stand alone ability.

Why not? If after reading the description it's still unclear to you how it works, you try it out in various scenarios. That's what most players do.

This says enough about the poor description writing in game.

I agree that there are many poor descriptions in-game, but I don't agree that the difference between "bonus turn" and "immediate bonus turn" is one of them.

However, from the in-game descriptions it's unclear that a bonus turn refers to the 100% TM gain (unpreventable) and not to to the actual performance of any action (activation of a skill).

Alright cut it out calling other user's trolls if you disagree with them, it's not on. If you suspect someone is trolling then report them and the moderation team will look into it, don't call people out in a thread, it's derailing and unnecessary

So what happens if Yoda kills off B2 with Masterstroke when GG is present?

@Waqui
@jhbuchholz
@DuneFlint

"I agree that there are many poor descriptions in-game, but I don't agree that the difference between "bonus turn" and "immediate bonus turn" is one of them.

However, from the in-game descriptions it's unclear that a bonus turn refers to the 100% TM gain (unpreventable) and not to to the actual performance of any action (activation of a skill)."

Whomever wrote that is just arguing to argue at this point. You'd be hard-pressed to find a more inaccurately worded thing in the game.

"PERSON_OF_DOOM;c-1929655" wrote:
So what happens if Yoda kills off B2 with Masterstroke when GG is present?

1. Both GG and GMY gain a bonus turn (100% TM, which can't be prevented).
2. GMY goes first, since his is an immediate bonus turn.
3. If more units have 100% TM after GMY went, RNG decides wether GG or one of the other units at 100% TM goes first.

"Mephisto_style;c-1929682" wrote:
@Waqui
@jhbuchholz
@DuneFlint

"I agree that there are many poor descriptions in-game, but I don't agree that the difference between "bonus turn" and "immediate bonus turn" is one of them.

However, from the in-game descriptions it's unclear that a bonus turn refers to the 100% TM gain (unpreventable) and not to to the actual performance of any action (activation of a skill)."

Whomever wrote that is just arguing to argue at this point. You'd be hard-pressed to find a more inaccurately worded thing in the game.

It's quite clear to me that "a bonus turn" and "an immediate bonus turn" are two different things. I don't find the wording inaccurate like you and Jhbuchholz.

"Finch1221;c-1929757" wrote:

"Waqui;c-1928698" wrote:
@Finch1221 and @USAFmedic129 :

I'm afraid, you are both wrong. Other characters are not supposed to be able to perform any actions in between GMY's Master Stroke and his immediate bonus turn. GMY is guaranteed to perform the next action even if other characters are also at 100% after he received his immediate bonus turn.

I have played many JKR mirror matchs at this point and many times when I use masterstroke and the opponents GMY counters and gains TM to get 100%TM the opposing GMY gets a turn before mine and many times mine has gone before the opposing GMY.

Explain this? The only reason I can think is maybe in the code their is no difference between friendly and enemy GMY?

Just like BenQuadinaros, I've never seen that happen. If what you claim is is true, I'd suggest that you document it (with a video) and report a bug. And just out of curiosity, please throw us a link to your video/documentation.

The only reason I can think the GMY v GMY TM swap could happen is if the attacking GMY is getting his bonus turn before the countering GMY gets to 100% TM (during the attack sequence) resulting in a coin flip since technically the immediate part of the bonus turn was gained during the attack. But that would probably be a bug.