Relic Bobba sidious and savage is hammering me

@Dirty_Litle_Smuggler expose damage is % based , so even if the enemy has 300k health you still only do the same % as you would if they had 30k

"Treeburner;c-2123980" wrote:
@Dirty_Litle_Smuggler expose damage is % based , so even if the enemy has 300k health you still only do the same % as you would if they had 30k

Not sure why you're referencing me here, but I guess I'll explain better? You want your team to be fast and have more people that can land exposes. Under JTR, Finn can spam his special for a double expose, and keep a toon stunned. So, more exposes and less turns for them. You could also use resistance trooper, trading the stun for a TM boost on expose. Either way, R2 doesn't do a whole lot for you in a 3-man team. If you need R2 for BB8 to go before Boba, your mods aren't good enough and you shouldn't use a team with weaker mods AND gear.

"Saada;c-2120123" wrote:

"MightyWizard;c-2120010" wrote:

"Saada;c-2119062" wrote:
I would try to take out Sidious first since he is generally pretty squishy. Then you'll have a decent shot in a 3v2 scenario

Sidious is actually far from squishy at g13 and properly modded he gets tons of health.

Yeah... sure.
second darth sidious in terms of speed:

https://swgoh.gg/p/851123686/characters/darth-sidious

56k health and 45 odd protection
Mod all you want (which will be highly unlikely for anyone to load up 6 health mods with three or four 16% health mods primaries) and his health would still be mediocre.

So yes, squishy compared to just about every other g13.

Actually, relic Sidious(mine is r5) gains ludicrous amounts of health under Traya and Palpatine, and alone too, so long as he's modded properly with lots of potency. Go read his kit and it will all make sense. He soaks up massive crits like they're nothing.

Edit: Might as well add that when it comes to damage, added CD will work wonders on Sidious with relics. Considering his high base speed, a CD set will do more for his versatility than a speed set, and it goes without saying he should have a CD triangle.

Also sorry if I'm derailing the thread a wee bit.

"Dirty_Litle_Smuggler;c-2124443" wrote:

"Treeburner;c-2123980" wrote:
@Dirty_Litle_Smuggler expose damage is % based , so even if the enemy has 300k health you still only do the same % as you would if they had 30k

Not sure why you're referencing me here, but I guess I'll explain better? You want your team to be fast and have more people that can land exposes. Under JTR, Finn can spam his special for a double expose, and keep a toon stunned. So, more exposes and less turns for them. You could also use resistance trooper, trading the stun for a TM boost on expose. Either way, R2 doesn't do a whole lot for you in a 3-man team. If you need R2 for BB8 to go before Boba, your mods aren't good enough and you shouldn't use a team with weaker mods AND gear.

You said and I quote " (all that extra health will make him easier to kill with exposes). "
This implies that the more health the easier it will be to kill him with expose . But expose does the same amount of % damage regardless of how much or little health you have if it takes 5 exposes to kill a toon at 100k then it take 5 at 10k.
Didn't need you to explain how the team works I'm fine with that , I was making sure you understand how expose damage works.

"Treeburner;c-2125167" wrote:

"Dirty_Litle_Smuggler;c-2124443" wrote:

"Treeburner;c-2123980" wrote:
@Dirty_Litle_Smuggler expose damage is % based , so even if the enemy has 300k health you still only do the same % as you would if they had 30k

Not sure why you're referencing me here, but I guess I'll explain better? You want your team to be fast and have more people that can land exposes. Under JTR, Finn can spam his special for a double expose, and keep a toon stunned. So, more exposes and less turns for them. You could also use resistance trooper, trading the stun for a TM boost on expose. Either way, R2 doesn't do a whole lot for you in a 3-man team. If you need R2 for BB8 to go before Boba, your mods aren't good enough and you shouldn't use a team with weaker mods AND gear.

You said and I quote " (all that extra health will make him easier to kill with exposes). "
This implies that the more health the easier it will be to kill him with expose . But expose does the same amount of % damage regardless of how much or little health you have if it takes 5 exposes to kill a toon at 100k then it take 5 at 10k.
Didn't need you to explain how the team works I'm fine with that , I was making sure you understand how expose damage works.

If a toon has 50K protection and 50K health, it will take 10 exposes at 10K damage to kill them. If that character has 50K protection and 100K health, it will only take 7.5 exposes to kill them. If you don't scale your protection with increasing health, you will die faster from exposes, or any percent health damage. This is exactly why Geo TB enemies have a way higher protection pool compared to their health pool.

"Dirty_Litle_Smuggler;c-2125897" wrote:

"Treeburner;c-2125167" wrote:

"Dirty_Litle_Smuggler;c-2124443" wrote:

"Treeburner;c-2123980" wrote:
@Dirty_Litle_Smuggler expose damage is % based , so even if the enemy has 300k health you still only do the same % as you would if they had 30k

Not sure why you're referencing me here, but I guess I'll explain better? You want your team to be fast and have more people that can land exposes. Under JTR, Finn can spam his special for a double expose, and keep a toon stunned. So, more exposes and less turns for them. You could also use resistance trooper, trading the stun for a TM boost on expose. Either way, R2 doesn't do a whole lot for you in a 3-man team. If you need R2 for BB8 to go before Boba, your mods aren't good enough and you shouldn't use a team with weaker mods AND gear.

You said and I quote " (all that extra health will make him easier to kill with exposes). "
This implies that the more health the easier it will be to kill him with expose . But expose does the same amount of % damage regardless of how much or little health you have if it takes 5 exposes to kill a toon at 100k then it take 5 at 10k.
Didn't need you to explain how the team works I'm fine with that , I was making sure you understand how expose damage works.

If a toon has 50K protection and 50K health, it will take 10 exposes at 10K damage to kill them. If that character has 50K protection and 100K health, it will only take 7.5 exposes to kill them. If you don't scale your protection with increasing health, you will die faster from exposes, or any percent health damage. This is exactly why Geo TB enemies have a way higher protection pool compared to their health pool.

I was talking just pure health , but I see your point .

He speaks the truth, it's better to just have some good old fashioned fun instead of chasing first place in a game that has nothing to do with strategy or competitive play.

I've focused first and foremost on building up my sith which are my favourite toons. I have all of them except two at relic level 5 or above now, and no regrets whatsoever.

@MightyWizard good work

Find a team that has built in counter chance. Provlem solved.