return of the dark side...

over night i lost many ranks, best was from 23 to 52!

and in june i had three days no internet and after reconnection i was ... rank 47! (without a single fight in this three days)

Nightsisters teams are finally a breath of fresh air for resistance + raid han

First stun on acolyte, smokescreen, taunt & GG.

"jedibaer71;c-1350293" wrote:
over night i lost many ranks, best was from 23 to 52!

and i june i had three days no internet and after reconnection i was ... rank 47! (without a single fight in this three days)

This game is not game where there is a team nobody can beat. Without playing for 3 days it is normal rank 47. I would say that you drop less than could be expected. In top 50 there are very good teams right now. Everyone can beat everyone so the only reason to keep the rank is to play and make refresh for arena. I cannot understand this fantasy about having strong squad and not loose on defense. It is not possible. Pay to win is not giving advantage, more time consumed for playing is not giving advantage. There is also no options with mods or gear to have any advantage. Rebels can loose, Empire can loose.

hi Gawejn,

could be true! but i am sure, if i make no arena fights now until thursday, i am sure, i am not more top 100.
i agree, that it is necessary to refresh to get better reward. the more player do, the better it's for the earnings.
the sociological element is, that, if nobody refreshes, we all earn the same reward a with... but everyone want to be the best.
ok, that's the game. but iam sure, that with autoplay my first order cannot make 50% against the actual top10 teams. the "old" fo-team, with only five heroes, had no healer and no cleaner. and against baze with his full healing and kenobi it was and is really hard.

one for sure: the balance between light side and dark side is disturbed.

who will bring the balance?

"DavidSPumpkins;c-1350217" wrote:

"Gawejn;c-1349980" wrote:

"Zombie961;c-1349961" wrote:

"ProximaB1_;c-1349885" wrote:

"Zombie961;c-1349883" wrote:

"Gawejn;c-1349761" wrote:

"Zombie961;c-1349669" wrote:

"Gawejn;c-1349557" wrote:

"Zombie961;c-1349540" wrote:
Empire and Nightsisters aren't bad offensively. But don't hold defense as well as the CL or GK teams. Maybe with someone like Hux or other surge of FO characters may make them arena viable, but unless it's something huge unlikely

This is not true about defense. If empire can beat on offense cls team so what it means? Means that Cls teams dont hold on defense.

Because a CL team takes carful strategy to beat with an empire team. But a CL offensively v an empire team is just put on auto

"FierceRevan;c-1349661" wrote:
@Zombie961 nightsisters are the best defense team currently. They require most people to change their teams to beat them because most meta teams have few if any AOE attacks. This also means that almost nobody will attack a nightsisters team on their last battle attempt, further making them stronger on defense. Also with the acolyte/zombie loop it is easy to accidentally be caught in a time out draw.

Nightsister are pushovers cause they have **** damage and rely on Plague to kill anyone, as for Acolyte Han's opening, or a Thrawn fracture, or a CL buff block, or R2's stun and she's useless, and if you do miss all that and she goes into stealth you can kill the others and put it on auto to speed everything up so R2 is constantly using his AoE which will whittle her down quickly

Carefull strategy for Empire against CLS team? Dont make me laugh. For sure You have no idea about Empire. You put auto and only watch how Empire wins. Maxed Empire can finish on auto with almost full protection. And CLS can hit so strong Stormtrooper that is healing his protection. Leia is hitting Stormtrooper 4k on Critical hits. Storm will recover this just by taunting.

Storm has no healing, do you mean Shoretrooper? Even so Luke buff blocking and him, Han, and R2 are stunning with the only empire's only cleanse being a Thrawn lead screws them. As well as Luke and Han's huge damage, the empire relying on Fracture and deathtrooper, the latter can be counters by Kenobi and R2's pseudo passive cleaning. Do you have any vids of this "auto with almost full protection"?

"ProximaB1_;c-1349829" wrote:

"Zombie961;c-1349669" wrote:

"Gawejn;c-1349557" wrote:

"Zombie961;c-1349540" wrote:
Empire and Nightsisters aren't bad offensively. But don't hold defense as well as the CL or GK teams. Maybe with someone like Hux or other surge of FO characters may make them arena viable, but unless it's something huge unlikely

This is not true about defense. If empire can beat on offense cls team so what it means? Means that Cls teams dont hold on defense.

Because a CL team takes carful strategy to beat with an empire team. But a CL offensively v an empire team is just put on auto

"FierceRevan;c-1349661" wrote:
@Zombie961 nightsisters are the best defense team currently. They require most people to change their teams to beat them because most meta teams have few if any AOE attacks. This also means that almost nobody will attack a nightsisters team on their last battle attempt, further making them stronger on defense. Also with the acolyte/zombie loop it is easy to accidentally be caught in a time out draw.

Nightsister are pushovers cause they have **** damage and rely on Plague to kill anyone, as for Acolyte Han's opening, or a Thrawn fracture, or a CL buff block, or R2's stun and she's useless, and if you do miss all that and she goes into stealth you can kill the others and put it on auto to speed everything up so R2 is constantly using his AoE which will whittle her down quickly

How is r2 doing 25000 in damage with aoe. That's what my nightsister acolyte has. I don't even worry about r2

Even before his unique, crits, and mods, he's doing near 3K with it, and 15% each additional turn for three turns with burning. which totals to near 14K of her health.

She heals on basic. She had full health on her next turn.

She heals on a crit, which with GK severely limits her

"pinkfloyd;c-1349916" wrote:

"Zombie961;c-1349883" wrote:
Do you have any vids of this "auto with almost full protection"?

https://youtu.be/80pBxUZIvjE

Several problems with that example;
1. They were fighting a Chaze team which isn't to impressive compared to a GK and Zarriss/Thrawn/Nihilus team
2. They still did manual targeting which doesn't show off the true ai
3. If they are as good defensively as you say, why don't we see more of them in arena?

There is no such thing good on defense. Every team can loose on defense.

Every team can lose, but that's not the game. It's a risk assessment, and a time assessment. If my path to 1st will not be adversely affected, I will favor targeting squads that are speedy wins and where even the worst RNG will not be a factor. On my shard, first and foremost, that means empire and NS.

That's why there are 2 empire squads and 1 NS squad that get knocked right out of orbit everyday; they're the easiest prey and the best stepping stones for everybody else. Doesn't matter much if you can beat everything on offense if it's going to take you 7 battles to crack the top 10 while getting knocked back a couple of times while you're on cooldown.

That's not to say an empire squad couldn't be more of a challenge, but the price of admission is much higher, in terms of both initial investment to field the team and mods that would be needed to become a risk for an attacker.

I see Rebel teams dropping like rock from the sky in top 50. There is no difference. But to play with a team just couse to avoid or minimaize number of fights on defense is strange. Crowd play, crowd behaviour. Nothing else. I play Empire couse they dont die on offense, i can control fight and they have recovery of prot. Solid team. Cool counter for Rebels. I would play BH squad if they would be reworked. They dont have good skills right now. I would play Pheonix if I would have free zetas for them. Also cool team. I would play with Palp Vader combo if they would be reworked.

"jedibaer71;c-1350351" wrote:
hi Gawejn,

could be true! but i am sure, if i make no arena fights now until thursday, i am sure, i am not more top 100.
i agree, that it is necessary to refresh to get better reward. the more player do, the better it's for the earnings.
the sociological element is, that, if nobody refreshes, we all earn the same reward a with... but everyone want to be the best.
ok, that's the game. but iam sure, that with autoplay my first order cannot make 50% against the actual top10 teams. the "old" fo-team, with only five heroes, had no healer and no cleaner. and against baze with his full healing and kenobi it was and is really hard.

one for sure: the balance between light side and dark side is disturbed.

who will bring the balance?

Hi Jedibaer
Yes, no healing, no cleaning is a problem. But I think that new FO chars can help a lot and I saw already vids where FO is winning against meta. Not on autoplay but manual. I think it is ridicolous right now to compare teams by possibility to win on auto or not. And other thing is this that there wont be a team always strong enough to be 1. Game would be dead in 6 months.

yep, a tactical team like fo better don't use autoplay. ;-)

unfortunately with my bed and slow internet i cannot watch youtube videos, a big disadvantage in this game. i hope, the unmasked can help. we will see.

https://swgoh.gg/u/mithos/
I am using a full dark team on a old shard where i am the ONLY ds user in my top 100 and i am rank 26, just because everyone chooses the easier to build ls party doesnt mean that ds is dead

hi Mithos, wau, you are in a very strong guild!

your top 10 player (galactic power) have all light side team, perhaps with thrawn or nihilus.

it's the mainstream...

"StormTro0p3R_H;c-1351209" wrote:

"pinkfloyd;c-1349916" wrote:

"Zombie961;c-1349883" wrote:
Do you have any vids of this "auto with almost full protection"?

https://youtu.be/80pBxUZIvjE

I mean, he didn't even switch targets, lol.

Today first time I beat the same team on auto. Full g12. I had only 3 minutes for payout and i had to take the risk. It worked. I won. But took more than 3 minutes.