Rex meta any real counter

"Z_Cavaricci;703237" wrote:

"LastJedi;703131" wrote:

But if I need to ensure I go first I just swap in Han Solo. If he misses the stun that's just the way it goes. If he hits the stun Biggs goes first and my ST Han is usually fast enough to go 2nd.

But you can't stun anyone. If this team is setup right, it is impossible

OP states:

It doesn't matter if you kill rex first. His lead skill still there.
When facing Rex L, jka, lando, sun fac, EP/sthan
You don't want to kill rex first...

Consider Rex L, Anni, Lando, Fac, ST Han.

Rex has 231 speed, ST Han has 230 speed. Everyone else has lower speed. Fac has 112 speed.

So you stun.... ST Han or Lando? Rex uses SD. Total waste of han stun. ST Han goes at 230 speed, like nothing happened.
So you stun Rex? St Han goes at 230 speed, lol. And Rex regains 30% TM off the bat.

Either way, your B2 will debuff ST Han.... but then Fac at 112 speed will taunt in a bit if he resists block. And Fac tenacity can be modded pretty high.

So to get around this, using Lando is one way. If you have lando with Wedge lead, you can wipe his lando around the taunt. But your lando has to get two AOE in a row. Every time his lando goes, he self heals. Your crits give his lando TM. Your wedge lead gives your lando TM. Matter of who gets two in a row, first.

@leef sorry, I am not clear with this. I jump around and I'm sure other ways to beat this team. But it's pretty brutal when his ST Han and rex are faster than you, and Han Solo don't do jack for this. The key toon on this team is Lando and the dual staggered taunt. If you can't stop lando, you will have a bad day. And Fac is not fast to get around.

You can wait and debuff both at once, but you got pounded in the meantime by AOE with Anni offense up. And your B2 is feeding their team TM with his **** basic.

Well if you're going to add super mods to the original question and handicap me with lesser mods, then I guess it will be different. I suggest you find away to mod your speed higher then. Get Biggs or ST Han's speed above 231. Then Stun ST Han and OHKO Rex.

If you're way outmodded then nothing is going to be 100%. And it really shouldn't be because his team is just better. I've go up against a much better modded Wiggs team everyday I have to bring in Han Solo and if he misses the stun on ST Han the match is over. His whole team will go first and I'll be 2 men down. When it does land I wn in less than 60 seconds.

Also in my previous experience with Rex he doesn't usually throw his Tenacity buff on his first turn.

Yes. Against most better modded teams u have some way to beat them quite easily, by using correct toons despite much lesser mods. Except this kind of rex team. This what makes rex evil.

With this setup he doesn't have to use SD in first round. It is there for Han solo. Or droids rng debuff. If he doesn't need to use it, even better. that means no debuffs on his team when han taunts. And a SD and more tm on the way for round two.

I never have a problem with Rex and I run Droids. You just have to be smart with the attacks. Now Lando... he can bite it.

Oh come on.... I didn't read this full thread before responding. You are talking about a team with 3 toons of 230+ speed, then Rex ain't the problem. Crazy mods are. That's a different story. Only other crazy mods are gonna keep up with any team that fast.

"SmokeyJoe320;703281" wrote:
I never have a problem with Rex and I run Droids. You just have to be smart with the attacks. Now Lando... he can bite it.

Rex plus lando?

Plus fact remains it is much much easier to beat droids despite mods than this sort of rex team. I can do it with all f2p toons and lesser mods the best modded droid teams on my shard. Not so, rex. I hear health modded EP lead can beat rex. Mine only 6 star and I haven't tried.

If that works, I am wrong. If IGD works, I am wrong. But so far, I have a strong suspicion that against better modded Rex lando squad, you bring equivalent mods or you have at best poor RNG chance to win even on offense. Crushed on defense.

Oh come on.... I didn't read this full thread before responding. You are talking about a team with 3 toons of 230+ speed, then Rex ain't the problem. Crazy mods are. That's a different story. Only other crazy mods are gonna keep up with any team that fast.

I made that up. That is norm on some shards. W/e is the fastest on your shard, insert that. Point being that best speed mods plus Rex squad... is there a counter for that? Is the game broken at this point? What toons can you use to compete with that without also having similar mods? All other squads can be easily beat with much lesser mods if you bring the right toons.

Oneshot who? Rex? That is not end of story, lol. You have to stop the mustache. That's the reason Rex is there, at all.

When you can oneshot Lando, wake me up.

Even so, you can one shot rex or lando.. What's the percentage. What is the best pull you can get. Lando or Leia? You run Wiggs lando, leia, and X? Oneshot Lando. Done. You have to kill Fac and Anni while Han taunt is up and you can't debuff or stun cuz Rex is alive.

If you fail to ohko lando because your detaunter was pulled (or other support which I think you might need), his ST Han taunts, Lando goes, Lando is full health. You wasted your oneshot and now have almost zero chance to win.

Lando is Rey 3.0. Instead of evasion, he self-heals every turn and has high enough max health to make him bulletproof behind a tank. Unlike Rey, you don't need to aim his attack. AI can't screw him up. Rex makes sure you can't stun him or block him, unless you manage to block Rex AND ST Han/Lando. And that you can't out AOE him, because that just means his Lando will go every other turn (and self-heal).

Lando is ALL the dps any team needs, if they can protect him. And Rex is the master at that. Even if that means he dies in the first attack. That leaves the rest of the taunters and his lead skill. Cuz of Rex you have to go thru two taunters in succession or get lucky and score two timely back to back AOE. Insert EP in for Anni, and that team is even better, I think.

Stun (Aayla, Dooku, RG etc.), debuff (B2), get faster than your opponent.

"Returnofthen00b13;703407" wrote:
@LastJedi properly modded biggs gets close to oneshotting my near 60k vader and wedge does the cleaning, Lando's not a problem. Also Idk where you got lando being full health after his go from? Wedge lead maybe?

4* B2, and any taunt/taunts/Rex cleanse (taunts plural make things so easy) is gone ASAP. The more turns they take first round the better.

No lead chosen yet, and 2 spots left in the team to deal with any others

Lando also has like what, 15% self heal and does up to 50K damage on his second AOE?

If Biggs can consistently ohko lando, I guess no problem. I have not got that far, yet. :)

He'll also trigger biggs who would be ready or almost ready for a second oneshot of your choice after landos first turn

Which means Biggs can attack ST Han or Fac.

Also, Wedge can't do the cleaning of Lando. After your two crits, their ST Han goes next and Lando will beat Wedge to the punch. And Wedge can probably not finish off Lando after his self heal. Unless you got wedge and biggs both tied in speed... you can flip for it. Also you have to hope biggs goes before wedge. so haha, now you're down to 25% chance at best. Once wedge does an AOE, you will be in a multi way race vs just Biggs. Maybe better to use his basic, first.

4* B2, and any taunt/taunts/Rex cleanse (taunts plural make things so easy) is gone ASAP. The more turns they take first round the better.

This is why Fac is set to not fill on Han taunt. B2 gets his first turn before Fac. But AFTER Lando got his first AOE. The tsunami is coming next. There's a decent RNG chance Fac does or doesn't get a taunt, but it will more than likely ensure you get no more chances if the buff block misses. Cuz the AOE will fill Fac, thanks to Rex lead. You gotta get by this roll of the dice. Because B2 gets his TM filled by then, due to his mechanics, the Rex guy can set SF speed to be nearly filled after his ST Han and Lando and Anni/EP go and be SURE that B2 will have had his first turn by then. You have one rng window to kill lando. Obviously you can't save B2's special, because that means han is still taunting, lol. Next time b2 fills could be from Lando's second AOE.

Heck, Rex is pretty close to his second turn after B2 unloads, too. He got immediate 30% from Han taunt. And 15% for every crit. B2 crit 2 peeps, maybe 3. And Rex is speedy as hell. So he can set Fac to base speed and with Clone 15% TM on crit, Rex could possibly get his second turn before Fac's first... clearing buff block!

This why pretty much NO ONE that doesn't have better mods WANTS to fight this team. It will sit purdy until the entire leaderboard looks like this. If you have better mods but no rex, you will get targeted more than this guy. There are more higher percentage ways to beat the team without rex.

Even if your ST Han goes first, you might only get one guy to go first before his ST Han fills. If his ST Han is faster, he gets 2 other dudes guaranteed to go after his ST Han. Setting up the Fac taunt after your B2 goes.