Sith Squad Guidance for Nihilus Lead

Try use Palpatine and Vader instead of Savage and Dooku - they do for me just fine. Both Palpatine and Vader benefit from Nihilus leadership.

"SAM197706;925883" wrote:
Try use Palpatine and Vader instead of Savage and Dooku - they do for me just fine. Both Palpatine and Vader benefit from Nihilus leadership.

I planned on taking advantage of the synergy between Savage and SA. Have SA user her protection avoid attack, hopefully lands under 50% HP, have Savage instakill.

Anyone here saying avoid Savage clearly hasn't Zeta'd and used him. Zavage is a must in a Nihilus squad imo.

Vader if not lead is one of the worst Sith from my experience, under EP lead he's okay but under Zaul sucks and don't see much greatness under Nihilus. Dooku with his counter constantly gaining HP back is a solid choice I would say and if Sidious Zeta unique applies after Nihilus lead he will have 80+k health, definitely a solid toons to include.

Sith Assassin works great under Zaul as a JE-like booster, don't know how well she'd do under Nihilus but probably not a bad choice, Trooper looks like a nice option as well because of his tankiness.

I know you loose out on EP stun but EP isn't very tanky and could be taken out quickly, same counts for Maul who is a slug when not leading, and if he doesn't get to move he can't gain all that extra max health, also his unique health gain after 3rd enemy death is useless with Nihilus as leader, keep that in mind.

If you run a Darth Nihilus lead you need to approach the matter a bit different than with Zader or Zaul or even EP, his leader ability benefits toons that attack frequently or have a good pool of protection to begin with, that's why I say no to Maul and EP.

I wonder how a non-zeta Barriss would do on a Nihilus lead team? No health gain but being able to equalize all that health/protection and remove debuffs like shock or heal immunity so they can health steal.

I'm running 7star Max gear nil, zid zual EP gk killing it destroying Rex teams nobody if giving me issues on offence only dropped twice all day to zual teams with roughly the same characters but those squads loose too all the Rex leads so they don't stick around long

"Darth_bane16;926361" wrote:
I'm running 7star Max gear nil, zid zual EP gk killing it destroying Rex teams nobody if giving me issues on offence only dropped twice all day to zual teams with roughly the same characters but those squads loose too all the Rex leads so they don't stick around long

@Darth_bane16 mind sharing your swgoh.gg synced with your new arena team?

Just synced but it's not showing my current team for me, does have my current rank https://swgoh.gg/u/erskine/

"KeKattia;926050" wrote:
Anyone here saying avoid Savage clearly hasn't Zeta'd and used him. Zavage is a must in a Nihilus squad imo.

Vader if not lead is one of the worst Sith from my experience, under EP lead he's okay but under Zaul sucks and don't see much greatness under Nihilus. Dooku with his counter constantly gaining HP back is a solid choice I would say and if Sidious Zeta unique applies after Nihilus lead he will have 80+k health, definitely a solid toons to include.

Sith Assassin works great under Zaul as a JE-like booster, don't know how well she'd do under Nihilus but probably not a bad choice, Trooper looks like a nice option as well because of his tankiness.

I know you loose out on EP stun but EP isn't very tanky and could be taken out quickly, same counts for Maul who is a slug when not leading, and if he doesn't get to move he can't gain all that extra max health, also his unique health gain after 3rd enemy death is useless with Nihilus as leader, keep that in mind.

If you run a Darth Nihilus lead you need to approach the matter a bit different than with Zader or Zaul or even EP, his leader ability benefits toons that attack frequently or have a good pool of protection to begin with, that's why I say no to Maul and EP.

Great write up and analysis.

I will say I have one difference in opinion on the Vader comment. I run an EP(l) with a maxed out Vader and he is one of my best arena characters outside of Zylo. The key with vader is he needs support to maximize the effectiveness of his Force Crush and Culling attack. Outside of Dooku with his counter and then getting another turn, not many characters get 3 attacks in a row. Being able to knock out a powerful attacker like Biggs, EP, TFP and others and then ability block works very well.

IMO, he needs B2 to mow down and Boba helps prevent any cleanses or tenacity up from Rex.

I'm not sure how that translates to a DN lead, but I can tell you after facing several Zaul teams that he makes short work of Sith that don't have a lot of health/protection.

"mlb1399;926911" wrote:

Great write up and analysis.

I will say I have one difference in opinion on the Vader comment. I run an EP(l) with a maxed out Vader and he is one of my best arena characters outside of Zylo. The key with vader is he needs support to maximize the effectiveness of his Force Crush and Culling attack. Outside of Dooku with his counter and then getting another turn, not many characters get 3 attacks in a row. Being able to knock out a powerful attacker like Biggs, EP, TFP and others and then ability block works very well.

IMO, he needs B2 to mow down and Boba helps prevent any cleanses or tenacity up from Rex.

I'm not sure how that translates to a DN lead, but I can tell you after facing several Zaul teams that he makes short work of Sith that don't have a lot of health/protection.

True maybe I was a bit harsh on Vader under EP lead, I used him there and he was rather good. But I have run a Zaul team since december now and I've never found a spot for Vader on there, there's always been a better fitting Sith.

For Vader to work with a Nihilus lead you'd need to have unicorn mods to speed him up, the dots expire and he doesn't gain TM from debuffing or dodging, that's why I said others are better under a Nihilus.

His culling blade can sure make short process of Sith if he lives long enough to get those two turns in without any TM gain.

"KeKattia;926933" wrote:

"mlb1399;926911" wrote:

Great write up and analysis.

I will say I have one difference in opinion on the Vader comment. I run an EP(l) with a maxed out Vader and he is one of my best arena characters outside of Zylo. The key with vader is he needs support to maximize the effectiveness of his Force Crush and Culling attack. Outside of Dooku with his counter and then getting another turn, not many characters get 3 attacks in a row. Being able to knock out a powerful attacker like Biggs, EP, TFP and others and then ability block works very well.

IMO, he needs B2 to mow down and Boba helps prevent any cleanses or tenacity up from Rex.

I'm not sure how that translates to a DN lead, but I can tell you after facing several Zaul teams that he makes short work of Sith that don't have a lot of health/protection.

True maybe I was a bit harsh on Vader under EP lead, I used him there and he was rather good. But I have run a Zaul team since december now and I've never found a spot for Vader on there, there's always been a better fitting Sith.

For Vader to work with a Nihilus lead you'd need to have unicorn mods to speed him up, the dots expire and he doesn't gain TM from debuffing or dodging, that's why I said others are better under a Nihilus.

His culling blade can sure make short process of Sith if he lives long enough to get those two turns in without any TM gain.

Whit your zaul team, if your vader is the slower guy, you can start whit cb instead of aoe. Even if it don't kill the toon, maul will finish the job then whit his 100tm gain, daze aoe. Not bad at all.