So Revan

How are your mods?

There are other teams that can beat treya, the reason they don't even hit the meta report is that they dont last on defense in arena. Revan does both of those things.

Again not OP, but is doing what he should do. Win on offense and hold on defense. And since they learned from CLS, not the only way to stay relevant in arena. Not sure what else you are looking for...

As a traya user, i can confirm its very difficult for me to beat him. With equal mods i.e. Now there are things i can do like, make traya beefier, cloak traya before the match. I get that, but not the point.

The point is, he autos everything on offense. But he falls against everything other than traya on defense, pretty easy imo. He's not bad, just different.

"Kiritoismyname;c-1676084" wrote:
He's not bad, just different.

Which is what I feel they were going for. It would have been a nail in the coffin if they made him as OP as CLS for instance.

I would also view him as the nihilus of a new era, a good toon very useful, and in the coming future releases we will see him thrive. Maybe I'm just hopeful...

"BubbaFett;c-1676093" wrote:
What is taken into account in that meta report?.... Statistically, there is no way that percentage of shards even have traya.... And, if they do, that report is very skewed by whaling.....

Its skewed by people who sign up, and maybe you underestimate how many people have him.

"BubbaFett;c-1676104" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1676096" wrote:

"BubbaFett;c-1676093" wrote:
What is taken into account in that meta report?.... Statistically, there is no way that percentage of shards even have traya.... And, if they do, that report is very skewed by whaling.....

Its skewed by people who sign up, and maybe you underestimate how many people have him.

Wasn't talking about a him.... Talking about Traya.... I could actually see a bought Revan in many shards, but no way there is an earned traya in half of them...

Sorry misread that. But again, maybe you underestimate the amount of people with treya. It doesnt account for * count, so that's everyone there with an unlocked treya.

There will never, ever be an op toon that is not beatable.

2 things would have to change

1. Dumb AI would have to convert to Smart AI (more human)
2. Implement Live PVP - human vs human

Short of that...every single character will be more or less the same...good on offense...eh ok on defense to bad on defense.

@Kyno My Revan is 301 speed gmy is 289 speed it's not mods, it's more related to the fact that almost everything except Traya beats it. I'm not struggling with it or anything I climb easily but also get dropped fairly easily by numerous comps.

His kit is pretty much only designed to counter Traya and that's a bad design imo. He's losing to nearly every other comp on defense. Nightsisters, ewoks, cls chewie raid Han, some Traya comps, jtr, bastila, palpatine...

"Ace0187420;c-1676136" wrote:
Kyno My Revan is 301 speed gmy is 289 speed it's not mods, it's more related to the fact that almost everything except Traya beats it. I'm not struggling with it or anything I climb easily but also get dropped fairly easily by numerous comps.

the 4 here on my Nov 15' shard stay top 15 as far as i see. Since many people are running the same 8 or so jedi with little change, maybe we are all missing something and one of the usual underdeveloped jedi is really key.

Could be, but that was kinda my point the other Jedi seem pretty meh.