In response to the character rework requests on last update notes. The devs should really focus on synergy groups over individual characters. Some characters need work, sure, but there are some short comings for entire classes and almost every character within them. This is bigger than the requests to fix yoga, or fives, or FOTP.1. All scoundrels, except maybe lando2. Empire characters (veers, magma trooper, stormtrooper, snow trooper)3. Night sisters4. Tusken Raiders5. FO6. ResistanceThese synergies are currently USELESS and outside of plasma, asajj, and Vader. NONE of the other characters you ever see in arena. They are broken and need work. The only teams that "work" outside the meta characters are clones, ewoks, jedi, droids/geo and that's not only debatable, depending who you talk to, but also situational (pvp, GW, raid)

Finally, some noise! Yeah! How bout adding a system that gives a bonus based on squad types and an attribute that is associated with them? For example Scoundrels = speed/crit Empire= dmg/potencyEwoks= speed/tm manipulation Clones= tenacity/tm manipulation Resistance/rebels= tenacity/potency?Nightsister=hpsteal/dispelTusken=assists like phasma leadMake these bonuses apply when idk 2 like types in a group and effects increase as more like types in group...for instance...nightsisters...when 2 types in party they get 5% healthsteal 3types = 10% 4= 15% 5=20% healthsteal and 50% for basics to dispel positive effects.Lastly may be interesting to get a party with 2 types and another 2 types...make a few standalones to bridge multiple groups.

"WhiskeyPug;41578" wrote:These synergies are currently USELESS and outside of plasma, asajj, and Vader. NONE of the other characters you ever see in arena. They are broken and need work. You have overlooked quite a few charachters:RG is from the empire just like Vader and very common in arenas. He can be coupled with Vader (L) and stormtrooper (yes) and 2 attackers.Old Daka is a nightsister and fairly common in arenas, though not for her nightsister synergy.Kylo Ren (First Order) works well with a Phasma lead. FOTP, though not the beast he was, is still viable. Though not very common, FO based teams can work.Rey is from the resistance and all over the place, though rarely for synergy reasons. Same thing goes for Poe, while RP is in a similar situation as FOTP.Also, another reason, why you don't see synergy teams like these is the availability. Other viable toons are available early in the game, so people stick with those in order to not spread ressources too thin, instead of investing in niche teams like these. Small changes in balance can render such a team weak, while other toons can still be usefull in a whole variety of combinations/teams.

assume its not canon or whatever but resistance and rebels should share synergy imo. would help a lot as theres not many of them and its not great anyway. i wrongly thought they were the same.

The problem is not that the synergy is weak, it's that many of these toons are too hard to farm.

I'd like to see group synergies be more important. I doubt there will be a rework of synergies at this point. Reworking synergies would be to much of an overhaul and would effect current toons. Issues I see are "all type synergies" more viable than "group specific synergies" and there are standout characters.

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Porkchop437
9 years ago
I think it probably has to do with more testing and difficulty to achieve the synergies than buffing individual characters. An individual character buff require X amount of testing in the meta team. As a synergy buff you have to test all characters within the synergy to see if it aligns.

Not unlike the attempt with FO characters where they all were overhauled, but let's face it, this was really a nerf to FO to accommodate the advantage change. But ideally this type of overhaul should be what the focus is and should be where they try to fix broken characters.
Waquira
9 years ago
"WhiskeyPug;431545" wrote:
"Waqui;429525" wrote:
"WhiskeyPug;41578" wrote:
These synergies are currently USELESS and outside of plasma, asajj, and Vader. NONE of the other characters you ever see in arena. They are broken and need work.

You have overlooked quite a few charachters:
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Ya I forgot a few but you forgot 20 or so, or maybe you didn't forget and just know they are useless

I'm not the one, who made a wrong statement about useless charachters — YOU were. My list was to prove you wrong — and I did.

Move on, now.
Porkchop437
9 years ago
"Waqui;434130" wrote:
"WhiskeyPug;431545" wrote:
"Waqui;429525" wrote:
"WhiskeyPug;41578" wrote:
These synergies are currently USELESS and outside of plasma, asajj, and Vader. NONE of the other characters you ever see in arena. They are broken and need work.

You have overlooked quite a few charachters:
....
...

Ya I forgot a few but you forgot 20 or so, or maybe you didn't forget and just know they are useless

I'm not the one, who made a wrong statement about useless charachters — YOU were. My list was to prove you wrong — and I did.

Move on, now.

I don't think you achieved that goal, 95% correct is more than your 5%. The fact you think you can dismantle an entire idea by refuting a small part of it is a fallacy.
deltavee30
9 years ago
I agree that there should be a choice between running a group of random OP toons and a squad with full synergy. The two should at least be competitive with each other, but that's not the way it is right now with the exception of droid squads, which just have ridiculous synergy *and* ridiculous damage. Unfortunately, given the poor job CG has done at balancing this game so far, I don't think this will ever happen.

A good starting point at least would be to make ALL leader abilities faction- or race-specific. This would also immediately help reduce the terrible dodge problem plaguing this game right now, because if Dooku's only worked for Sith and Old Ben's only worked for Jedi, that would immediately kill off a lot of the dodge squads since neither Sith nor Jedi are particularly strong.
Taintdragons
9 years ago
This concept has been brought up again and again and again and many of us are of same mind. Thing is in these threads it seems some peeps try to WIN it by shooting this concept down. The idea has been mentioned so many times its not gonna die. Please stop saying the devs wont do this or that. This discussion is to brainstorm a model that WILL work. Lets focus on that.
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