Terrible character design

As soon as I saw the title of the post I knew it would be about nest :D .

I'll tell you the same thing as all the others who complain about her --> git gud. (And I have timed out against her too, but that's only on me to blame)

Nest isn't that hard to beat with that team. Just hit her with Han's special (Deadeye) approximately twice - first, and then after Nest takes a turn. She'll be dead. Don't hit her in between, it won't do anything and you'll probably delay her taking a turn.

"chionophile;c-1753107" wrote:
Nest isn't that hard to beat with that team. Just hit her with Han's special (Deadeye) approximately twice - first, and then after Nest takes a turn. She'll be dead. Don't hit her in between, it won't do anything and you'll probably delay her taking a turn.

This is true, assuming you have other targets to hit. Unfortunately, once you get to this point, it's pretty much a guaranteed timeout.

You can still win this. R2, CLS and OB all have moves that don't attack. You need to get Nest to take a turn to get rid of the protection. Then hit as hard as you can.

OB's hand-wave move drains tm.
Luke's non-attack move gives him another turn where he then drains tm.

"FREEDOMfrom;c-1753121" wrote:
You can still win this. R2, CLS and OB all have moves that don't attack. You need to get Nest to take a turn to get rid of the protection. Then hit as hard as you can.

Not worth mentioning CLS's ability since it gives him a full turn.

It's not about not attacking here, it's about not using the moves that remove tm (Like CLS's or OB's special or Han's basic attack).

R2 is there. Drop stealth to prevent death from constant counters. Lots of ways to stun her around for when stealth drops to also prevent death by counter.

Only real problem is all the tm removal on the CLS squad. Needs to be managed carefully. Biggest things I see would be to never use CLS special attack unless Nest just went, and to try to only use Han's basic when Nest has less than 50% tm so his specials are available when she has more than 50% tm.

Nothing to be done about CLS removing tm on his basic.

"Trystan_Spyder;c-1753111" wrote:

"chionophile;c-1753107" wrote:
Nest isn't that hard to beat with that team. Just hit her with Han's special (Deadeye) approximately twice - first, and then after Nest takes a turn. She'll be dead. Don't hit her in between, it won't do anything and you'll probably delay her taking a turn.

This is true, assuming you have other targets to hit. Unfortunately, once you get to this point, it's pretty much a guaranteed timeout.

True. If you get to the point pictured above, you're screwed. Nest requires some minimal planning ahead.

"chionophile;c-1753158" wrote:

"Trystan_Spyder;c-1753111" wrote:

"chionophile;c-1753107" wrote:
Nest isn't that hard to beat with that team. Just hit her with Han's special (Deadeye) approximately twice - first, and then after Nest takes a turn. She'll be dead. Don't hit her in between, it won't do anything and you'll probably delay her taking a turn.

This is true, assuming you have other targets to hit. Unfortunately, once you get to this point, it's pretty much a guaranteed timeout.

True. If you get to the point pictured above, you're screwed. Nest requires some minimal planning ahead.

Disagree that you're done if you get to that point. Just have a fair chance of timing out.
Careful management still leaves you a chance to win (assuming you have a couple minutes left when you reach this point).

@op Make sure you aren't stacking potency on anyone so you don't get any tm removal and this 5 on 1 is much easier.

"Woodroward;c-1753161" wrote:

"chionophile;c-1753158" wrote:

"Trystan_Spyder;c-1753111" wrote:

"chionophile;c-1753107" wrote:
Nest isn't that hard to beat with that team. Just hit her with Han's special (Deadeye) approximately twice - first, and then after Nest takes a turn. She'll be dead. Don't hit her in between, it won't do anything and you'll probably delay her taking a turn.

This is true, assuming you have other targets to hit. Unfortunately, once you get to this point, it's pretty much a guaranteed timeout.

True. If you get to the point pictured above, you're screwed. Nest requires some minimal planning ahead.

Disagree that you're done if you get to that point. Just have a fair chance of timing out.
Careful management still leaves you a chance to win (assuming you have a couple minutes left when you reach this point).

CLS and Han go too often and remove too much TM to allow Nest to move at that stage. I'm not about to re-mod to lower potency and hope Nest resists - that's not a strategy. Easier to just kill her quickly and early.