The end of critical damage mod sets?

"EduardoCadav;c-1906657" wrote:

"Bulldog1205;c-1906449" wrote:
The only thing that G13 changes is that offense mods now multiply offense from the G12 gear. This means that like health%, offense% gets a boost, minor in most cases. Critical damage was already factoring in that G12 offense, so it stays the same.

@Bulldog1205 was it you that did a youtube vid on this at some point? Maybe worth sharing again/updating?

Yes. It’s actually much, much easier now because the calculations are not character specific. I could put a few new charts together though I think.

"Bulldog1205;c-1906663" wrote:

"EduardoCadav;c-1906657" wrote:

"Bulldog1205;c-1906449" wrote:
The only thing that G13 changes is that offense mods now multiply offense from the G12 gear. This means that like health%, offense% gets a boost, minor in most cases. Critical damage was already factoring in that G12 offense, so it stays the same.

@Bulldog1205 was it you that did a youtube vid on this at some point? Maybe worth sharing again/updating?

Yes. It’s actually much, much easier now because the calculations are not character specific. I could put a few new charts together though I think.

indeed, the mix of relatively big flat and primary stat increases on those g12+ pieces made mod calculations for g12+5 characters very "interesting" :)

there's still the subtlety of mod secondary stats to consider on g13 characters but without the half in half out considerations from gear it's much easier now

"Rosstheboss89;c-1906299" wrote:
But it’s a fixed 42% percent on a fixed base percentage. Where as, as offense goes up the 15% is based off of a higher stat. Maybe it doesn’t make much difference, I’m not certain but first look suggested to be offense is better to go with now than CD.

This makes offense set slightly better but not makes CD set useless. For G13 offense set caps at 15% max total damage increase if you don't have offense on mods (which is highly unlikely if you are focusing on offense). CD set caps at 15.6% total damage increase with 100% crit rate and CD triangle, and at 20% without CD triangle. So there is some number of crit% where CD set is still better than offense.

But combat buffs, debuffs and toons abilities are also matter. If you have consistent CD up buff, or CC down debuff, or increased CD from abilities then offense set is always superior. And if you have consistend CD down debuff (pretty rare case, I know) then CD set is superior at much lower crit rates.

I would also ask about %stats but in comparison to constant stats. The constant are still the same but characters at g13 have higher basic stats so % give stronger buffs. Does it mean that we can expect some changes in mods?

32% of players go with CD set vs 17% offense on HK....I just felt like throwing numbers out too

Thanks for everyone’s input and clarifying, I still use some CD sets of course.
JTR, Han Solo, chewy, scav Rey, Leah and Ezra for example.
But started using more offense lately on droideka, b1, HK and Yoda.

There’s a couple I’m confused with, like anakin because he gets offense up boosts. I currently have offense set on him, would he be better with a CD set?

"Kokie;c-1907259" wrote:
32% of players go with CD set vs 17% offense on HK....I just felt like throwing numbers out too

77% of adults believe they can text without it affecting their driving. Majorities are not inherently right. 47% of all people know that you can prove anything with statistics. Especially if they are made up.

As for CD sets, no. They are not going away. We went from a situation initially where there was almost no reason to ever use offense mod sets for attackers to one where there are uses for both depending on the kit and other stats. And critical hits do more damage... if you have higher offense. More offense is great for CD. This thread was clearly started by someone who doesn't understand how crit damage works.

Why you got to get all muggy in the replies!? Keyboard warrior.

Thread was started as a genuine question as I’ve noticed less people use CD now as opposed to before.

That’s been cleared up with the whole physical damage and crit chance vs special damage and special crit ratios.
God forbid anyone asks a question or has a debate without your say so.

"JacenRoe;c-1907315" wrote:

"Kokie;c-1907259" wrote:
32% of players go with CD set vs 17% offense on HK....I just felt like throwing numbers out too

77% of adults believe they can text without it affecting their driving. Majorities are not inherently right. 47% of all people know that you can prove anything with statistics. Especially if they are made up.

As for CD sets, no. They are not going away. We went from a situation initially where there was almost no reason to ever use offense mod sets for attackers to one where there are uses for both depending on the kit and other stats. And critical hits do more damage... if you have higher offense. More offense is great for CD. This thread was clearly started by someone who doesn't understand how crit damage works.

"Rosstheboss89;c-1907325" wrote:
Why you got to get all muggy in the replies!? Keyboard warrior.

Thread was started as a genuine question as I’ve noticed less people use CD now as opposed to before.

That’s been cleared up with the whole physical damage and crit chance vs special damage and special crit ratios.
God forbid anyone asks a question or has a debate without your say so.

"JacenRoe;c-1907315" wrote:

"Kokie;c-1907259" wrote:
32% of players go with CD set vs 17% offense on HK....I just felt like throwing numbers out too

77% of adults believe they can text without it affecting their driving. Majorities are not inherently right. 47% of all people know that you can prove anything with statistics. Especially if they are made up.

As for CD sets, no. They are not going away. We went from a situation initially where there was almost no reason to ever use offense mod sets for attackers to one where there are uses for both depending on the kit and other stats. And critical hits do more damage... if you have higher offense. More offense is great for CD. This thread was clearly started by someone who doesn't understand how crit damage works.

You didn't say, 'I'm not sure how CD mods work. Is there a reason I am noticing people using them less?' You asked an overly dramatic question. Applause for the click bait title though.

While we're on the subject, I don't know what "muggy" means in the context of an internet slang/insult. Should I ask if the English language has degraded into incomprehensible gibberish, and then argue with anyone who says otherwise? Or instead should I just say, 'here is something I don't know about. Could someone shed light on it?'

Nevermind. I'll choose option three. I'll look it up myself.

meh.... not sure any of this matters.... I click "enter battle" some things flash on screen some yellow things read REALLY high numbers my whole team dies.... I honestly in all sincerity do not think what type of mod I use at this point will change the OHKO crisis i'm in right now :)