So I have a Zeta on Thrawns unique and it seems to have an issue dealing with toons who also have counter attack. So if Biggs attacks Thrawn he will counter attack 100% of the time. Problem is Biggs hits you right back. A counter on a counter. It is horrible. I've been hit with Biggs assist special, Thrawn counters and gets smoked by Biggs again. It destroyed my Thrawn. Ive seen it happen multiple times now. Any one else experience this?

It's not a counter Biggs gains tm when hit by Empire. Look at his unique

Biggs gains 100% TM when he is hit by a critical hit or by an Empire character. Thrawn is Empire so Biggs will gain 100% TM from being hit by Thrawn's counter attacks no matter what. It's not a counter attack, Biggs is just taking his turn and hitting Thrawn. No bug.

Well. That's ridiculous. Lol. I thought a counter attack didn't function as a turn. Obviously it does, but that seems out of line. So ideally Biggs will wreck any Empire toon that has a counter. Ouch

"DropItLikeItHoth;c-1148319" wrote:Well. That's ridiculous. Lol. I thought a counter attack didn't function as a turn. Obviously it does, but that seems out of line. So ideally Biggs will wreck any Empire toon that has a counter. Ouch That's why you fracture Biggs :)

"DropItLikeItHoth;c-1148319" wrote:Well. That's ridiculous. Lol. I thought a counter attack didn't function as a turn. Obviously it does, but that seems out of line. So ideally Biggs will wreck any Empire toon that has a counter. Ouch It's not functioning as a turn, but it is functioning as "Damage." Biggs doesn't gain 100% TM when an Empire character uses a turn to hit them, Biggs gains 100% TM when he takes damage from Empire characters. But yes Biggs will wreck Empire characters that counter attack. Unless he dodges or is stunned or shocked or dazed.

Thrawn counter attack shenanigans

riffinator24
New Spectator
8 years ago
It's not a counter Biggs gains tm when hit by Empire. Look at his unique
VertigoBeast
8 years ago
Biggs gains 100% TM when he is hit by a critical hit or by an Empire character. Thrawn is Empire so Biggs will gain 100% TM from being hit by Thrawn's counter attacks no matter what. It's not a counter attack, Biggs is just taking his turn and hitting Thrawn. No bug.
DropItLikeItHot
8 years ago
Well. That's ridiculous. Lol.
I thought a counter attack didn't function as a turn. Obviously it does, but that seems out of line. So ideally Biggs will wreck any Empire toon that has a counter. Ouch
STRlKEBOMB
8 years ago
"DropItLikeItHoth;c-1148319" wrote:
Well. That's ridiculous. Lol.
I thought a counter attack didn't function as a turn. Obviously it does, but that seems out of line. So ideally Biggs will wreck any Empire toon that has a counter. Ouch

That's why you fracture Biggs :)
VertigoBeast
8 years ago
"DropItLikeItHoth;c-1148319" wrote:
Well. That's ridiculous. Lol.
I thought a counter attack didn't function as a turn. Obviously it does, but that seems out of line. So ideally Biggs will wreck any Empire toon that has a counter. Ouch

It's not functioning as a turn, but it is functioning as "Damage." Biggs doesn't gain 100% TM when an Empire character uses a turn to hit them, Biggs gains 100% TM when he takes damage from Empire characters. But yes Biggs will wreck Empire characters that counter attack. Unless he dodges or is stunned or shocked or dazed.
allformysaviour
8 years ago
"DropItLikeItHoth;c-1148319" wrote:
Well. That's ridiculous. Lol.
I thought a counter attack didn't function as a turn. Obviously it does, but that seems out of line. So ideally Biggs will wreck any Empire toon that has a counter. Ouch

It's not a counter though. He gains 100% turn meter
DropItLikeItHot
8 years ago
"Vertigo;c-1148313" wrote:
Biggs gains 100% TM when he is hit by a critical hit or by an Empire character. Thrawn is Empire so Biggs will gain 100% TM from being hit by Thrawn's counter attacks no matter what. It's not a counter attack, Biggs is just taking his turn and hitting Thrawn. No bug.

So if that's truly the case why didn't my Thrawn hit him back immediately with his counter? If it was a new turn generated by TM Thrawn should have counter attacked.
Heck on offense you could purposely attack Thrawn with Biggs every time and start a damage loop until one toon dies.
VertigoBeast
8 years ago
"DropItLikeItHoth;c-1148329" wrote:
"Vertigo;c-1148313" wrote:
Biggs gains 100% TM when he is hit by a critical hit or by an Empire character. Thrawn is Empire so Biggs will gain 100% TM from being hit by Thrawn's counter attacks no matter what. It's not a counter attack, Biggs is just taking his turn and hitting Thrawn. No bug.

So if that's truly the case why didn't my Thrawn hit him back immediately with his counter? If it was a new turn generated by TM Thrawn should have counter attacked.

Pretty sure you said Thrawn already did hit him with the counter attack...? Let's get this straight:

Biggs hit's Thrawn with assist Special
Thrawn Counter attacks Biggs
Biggs gains 100% TM from being hit by Empire character
Biggs takes another turn and hits Thrawn again
Thrawn is dead? If not, Thrawn should counter attack that second hit.
If thrawn didn't counter that second hit... Was Thrawn Dazed/Stunned?

On Offense, a Biggs could essentially just continue to hit a Zeta'd Thrawn until Thrawn dies because he'll continue to get 100% TM. If you have the Omega on Thrawn's Basic though you might be able to stun Biggs so he won't always be able to use the turn that he gets.
DropItLikeItHot
8 years ago
"Vertigo;c-1148336" wrote:
"DropItLikeItHoth;c-1148329" wrote:
"Vertigo;c-1148313" wrote:
Biggs gains 100% TM when he is hit by a critical hit or by an Empire character. Thrawn is Empire so Biggs will gain 100% TM from being hit by Thrawn's counter attacks no matter what. It's not a counter attack, Biggs is just taking his turn and hitting Thrawn. No bug.

So if that's truly the case why didn't my Thrawn hit him back immediately with his counter? If it was a new turn generated by TM Thrawn should have counter attacked.

Pretty sure you said Thrawn already did hit him with the counter attack...? Let's get this straight:

Biggs hit's Thrawn with assist Special
Thrawn Counter attacks Biggs
Biggs gains 100% TM from being hit by Empire character
Biggs takes another turn and hits Thrawn again
Thrawn is dead? If not, Thrawn should counter attack that second hit.
If thrawn didn't counter that second hit... Was Thrawn Dazed/Stunned?

It didn't kill him. He was full health and protection. He was knocking on deaths door, but should have countered. It was a Wedge lead, Biggs, R2, Fulcrum Ashoka and GK. None of those guys dish out daze or anything that would interfere with counters. Biggs wasn't stealthed.
riffinator24
New Spectator
8 years ago
"DropItLikeItHoth;c-1148343" wrote:
"Vertigo;c-1148336" wrote:
"DropItLikeItHoth;c-1148329" wrote:
"Vertigo;c-1148313" wrote:
Biggs gains 100% TM when he is hit by a critical hit or by an Empire character. Thrawn is Empire so Biggs will gain 100% TM from being hit by Thrawn's counter attacks no matter what. It's not a counter attack, Biggs is just taking his turn and hitting Thrawn. No bug.

So if that's truly the case why didn't my Thrawn hit him back immediately with his counter? If it was a new turn generated by TM Thrawn should have counter attacked.

Pretty sure you said Thrawn already did hit him with the counter attack...? Let's get this straight:

Biggs hit's Thrawn with assist Special
Thrawn Counter attacks Biggs
Biggs gains 100% TM from being hit by Empire character
Biggs takes another turn and hits Thrawn again
Thrawn is dead? If not, Thrawn should counter attack that second hit.
If thrawn didn't counter that second hit... Was Thrawn Dazed/Stunned?

It didn't kill him. He was full health and protection. He was knocking on deaths door, but should have countered. It was a Wedge lead, Biggs, R2, Fulcrum Ashoka and GK. None of those guys dish out daze or anything that would interfere with counters. Biggs wasn't stealthed.

Again it has to do with THRAWN COUNTER not Biggs he doesn't have a counter he just gets 100% tm and goes again