Transitioning to Heroic Aat Raid?

How does double damage happen during rancor raid? Is double damage bad or good depending on

"ControlledChaos_3682;c-1169873" wrote:
Ok so to summarize.. 2% from 50 members. Each member is responsible for 950,000 damage. if less participants for raid = more percentage from each. Diversify squads across all phases. Beat normal aat raid without toon refreshes..... Be able to do all of the above..... and i think were close to a heroic completion.

2% are a lot in HAAT. My guild could get it down to 20% of phase 3 when we could complete NAAT in ~2 hours. Of course that is very dependent on the rosters of everyone, but it was still extremely hard.

2 hrs wow. Lot's of gears and squads to build. Thanks for the heads up to all. Its good to be informed.

"ControlledChaos_3682;c-1169885" wrote:
2 hrs wow. Lot's of gears and squads to build. Thanks for the heads up to all. Its good to be informed.

You can have a look here on what squads you could possibly build.
https://swgohindepth.com/2017/04/13/morningstar-013s-complete-haat-team-list/

"ControlledChaos_3682;c-1169806" wrote:
Acrofales thats a good idea. Heroic aat Guild event. First raid of the month.. to visually see progress.

This was huge for us. We had a friend from another guild with HAAT on farm hop over for the raid with full Zeta clone and resistance teams (and a few others as well) to push us over the line in phases 2-4 after we stalled out about 12 hours into each phase. It gave us a concrete number of how much damage we needed to make up to go back in, and we could easily ballpark our progress from there.

(Ex. We were ~2.5-3m short in P3. That's about half a dozen good Chirpatine or Teebotine type teams.)

It makes everything much more concrete from a planning perspective because you can get a ballpark for what a good XYZ type team is capable of and how close your members are to bringing additional teams online.

2 days means you still need refills on naat. Yeah there are no 5 matches limit on haat, but it's unlikely many people has more than 5 teams that does damage. On the other hand try it and see where you're at to gauge further progression. Until we were there, we had a monthly haat for gauging and that also kept the morale up.

You seem to have a lot of good advice here.

Make sure everyone knows to enter a phase they need to do the minimum 2% with a single team per phase. This is a safety net, not a requirement. This prevents stalling, and wasting teams.

Save teams, as the end of a phase approaches make sure you are very organized, to minimize wasted damage.

I worry a little since you can't clear Naat without a refresh, this likely means you don't have any super teams. It's nice to go into haat knowing you have at least a few and good to know you have one for each phase.

Rng is a complicated thing, if you can take your time, make sure people withdraw if they thunk they can do better, especially of they are not going to do 2%.

Good luck.

Using an independent chatting application, like Discord or Line, is also a big help in coordinating, and sharing help and advice among the whole guild. There are also useful websites to check whether you're ready or not, or to help the farming. Be sure you check all these (starting with swgoh.gg to have all rosters ready).

I stepped away from the game for a while into an NAAT guild and could solo P4 with a Zader/Maul team that would be lucky to get 250k in HAAT. The ratio of damage NAAT to HAAT is like 10 or 15:1.

I'd say you are far from ready.

"No_Try;c-1169914" wrote:
2 days means you still need refills on naat. Yeah there are no 5 matches limit on haat, but it's unlikely many people has more than 5 teams that does damage. On the other hand try it and see where you're at to gauge further progression. Until we were there, we had a monthly haat for gauging and that also kept the morale up.

Needing the refresh is tricky just because of how P1 works. If you've got a handful of Zylo's/Zavages, you can just not worry about P1 on Heroic, but on normal it can be a massive slog that burns all five of everybodies attempts because nobody has put effort into actual P1 teams.

We could kill P2-4 in about 2 hours, if that, but P1 takes 90 minutes in its own right, and leaves 15 of our heavy hitters tapped out.

Tl;dr: if you mainly need the refresh because of the P1 slog, it isn't neccesarily indicative of anything.