Vader Zeta Bugged - TMR on all enemies?

That's a new one... I've heard of TFP's basic triggering dodge effects on debuffed opponents, but not turn meter removal

It does effect all toons. It should say 50% chance to remove 20% Turn Meter on all enemies when they damage an enemy

TFP removing TM from all enemies on a basic? That doesn't sound right... are you sure it wasn't EP crackling doom and then TFP going next, or tarkin AoE or something.

If you tell us what team the enemy was using, we could probbaly easily figure out how your team was losing so much TM when TFP shot his basic.

Speaking of Vader zeta, the number 1 guy recently switched to using Vader (Zeta L), EP, Maul, Boba, Shore, and I beat his team using my empire team on the first try, and I only lost my Shore late in the match to DoT. His maul was very slow however (143 speed) so that might explain it. So unless it's because Maul is slow or this guy is doing something wrong, Vader zeta doesn't seem that good in arena, at least not against empire teams.

"DarthLark;837925" wrote:
It does effect all toons. It should say 50% chance to remove 20% Turn Meter on all enemies when they damage an enemy

Well, I'll take that as confirmation that TMR is indeed applying to all enemies, and it is not just my imagination. Curious though, why do you believe that this is WAI? (The description appears vague enough that it seems reasonable that it could be either single target or all enemies)

"Ky10Ren;837929" wrote:
TFP removing TM from all enemies on a basic? That doesn't sound right... are you sure it wasn't EP crackling doom and then TFP going next, or tarkin AoE or something.

If you tell us what team the enemy was using, we could probbaly easily figure out how your team was losing so much TM when TFP shot his basic.

Vader, EP, TFP, B2, ST

"YellowCatHat;837934" wrote:

"Ky10Ren;837929" wrote:
TFP removing TM from all enemies on a basic? That doesn't sound right... are you sure it wasn't EP crackling doom and then TFP going next, or tarkin AoE or something.

If you tell us what team the enemy was using, we could probbaly easily figure out how your team was losing so much TM when TFP shot his basic.

Vader, EP, TFP, B2, ST

If I had to guess it would either be:

EP Crackling doom counts as damage and removes your TM each time he takes a turn

You hit a taunting stormtrooper a lot, and he has 50% chance to remove your teams TM (10%) whenever he is hit while taunting. This is assuming ST is stormtrooper, as I wasn't quite 100% sure on that one.

If it isn't one of those, then there must be a bug somewhere.

I used ST to represent Shoretrooper. I suspect it is a bug as well, however, I am curious why DarthLark believes it is WAI. Certainly could be something I am missing.

Identical language is used for Asajj's leader ability:
"...and have a 50% chance to remove 20% Turn Meter when they damage an enemy. This Turn Meter removal can't be Resisted."
Anyone use Asajj as leader, or face her, and can confirm if this applies to the target or all enemies?

"YellowCatHat;837946" wrote:
I used ST to represent Shoretrooper. I suspect it is a bug as well, however, I am curious why DarthLark believes it is WAI. Certainly could be something I am missing.

In that case it is almost certainly a bug

Maybe when the game calculates how much damage TFP does on his basic due to debuffed enemies, it somehow counts the debuffs on your characters as damage and triggers the TM removal?

I have Vader zeta and noticed the same, the tm is removed from all the enemies sometimes.
Is a bug.