now that we have more than IPD who can target lock, what does target lock do by itself? i don't have IPD zeta'd, and it seems like its TL's description of "can't gain buffs" is really an effect of the zeta, so my question is, what does just regular target lock, say from ig88, do? just -25% evasion? hoping the community can help out, many thanks

More than that. It says it in his (?) kit.Special · Level 8Detect 4 turn cooldownDispel all buffs on all enemies with a 75% chance to inflict Target Lock for 2 turns. Then, remove 5% Turn Meter from Target Locked enemies. This attack can't be Evaded.Self-DestructSpecial · Level 8Self-Destruct 1 turn cooldownImperial Probe Droid instantly defeats itself and can't be Revived. Deal massive damage to target enemy. Deal bonus damage to other enemies equal to 30% of their Max Health. Expose all Target Locked enemies for 2 turns. This attack can't be Evaded. While Imperial Probe Droid has full Health, or has no active allies, the cooldown of this ability is set to max and can't be reduced.Imperial LogisticsUnique · Level 8Imperial LogisticsImperial Probe Droid has +50% Max Health. At the end of each Droid ally turn, at the end of each Empire ally turn, and at the end of each Rebel enemy turn, Imperial Probe Droid gains 3% Turn Meter. While Imperial Probe Droid is active, Target Locked enemies have -25% Evasion and can't gain buffs.

"M_L;c-1532266" wrote:so each type of Target lock, depending on who inflicts it, is different? surprised they're both called the same status then... Not who inflicts it, but who is present when it’s active. So there is now synergy between IPD and 88 because target lock will do more if they are both present.

"Swordd;c-1532447" wrote:.....My only concern is that it is a very open-ended thing to balance. You have to make sure, if say 20 characters end up with target lock abilities, that none of them form a broken loop. That's 15k+ combinations that can potentially be formed if you make a 5 man team out of 20 possibilities. There's a lot of potential for brokenness here, which I think will ultimately limit how widely they use target lock.Well I would think it's safe to say that it would be limited to droids.

"CCyrilS;c-1532452" wrote:"Swordd;c-1532447" wrote:.....My only concern is that it is a very open-ended thing to balance. You have to make sure, if say 20 characters end up with target lock abilities, that none of them form a broken loop. That's 15k+ combinations that can potentially be formed if you make a 5 man team out of 20 possibilities. There's a lot of potential for brokenness here, which I think will ultimately limit how widely they use target lock.Well I would think it's safe to say that it would be limited to droids.Well, I'm not sure about that. Scout Trooper has an ability that inflicted target lock on one enemy, so he's probably keeping that when he'll turn to a playable toon. I think the way to keep it balanced is to limit the number of toons that benefit from it. It might not all be droids, but if the only release 5 toons that with with TL, it could work.And let's not forget one thing - the effects of TL depends on the toon staying alive. IG 88 is squishy, while Probe Droid literally blows himself up. So there are ways to control this.

Absolutely because now there's extra synergy with ig88. An ig88 led droid team is going to be good.Ig88IpdBb8R2ChopperPlenty of synergy and bonuses and assists

what does Target Lock do on toons exactly?

tvsfrink
7 years ago
More than that. It says it in his (?) kit.

Special · Level 8
Detect 4 turn cooldown
Dispel all buffs on all enemies with a 75% chance to inflict Target Lock for 2 turns. Then, remove 5% Turn Meter from Target Locked enemies. This attack can't be Evaded.

Self-Destruct
Special · Level 8
Self-Destruct 1 turn cooldown
Imperial Probe Droid instantly defeats itself and can't be Revived. Deal massive damage to target enemy. Deal bonus damage to other enemies equal to 30% of their Max Health. Expose all Target Locked enemies for 2 turns. This attack can't be Evaded. While Imperial Probe Droid has full Health, or has no active allies, the cooldown of this ability is set to max and can't be reduced.

Imperial Logistics
Unique · Level 8
Imperial Logistics
Imperial Probe Droid has +50% Max Health. At the end of each Droid ally turn, at the end of each Empire ally turn, and at the end of each Rebel enemy turn, Imperial Probe Droid gains 3% Turn Meter. While Imperial Probe Droid is active, Target Locked enemies have -25% Evasion and can't gain buffs.
BTTripleZero
7 years ago
"M_L;c-1532266" wrote:
so each type of Target lock, depending on who inflicts it, is different? surprised they're both called the same status then...

Not who inflicts it, but who is present when it’s active. So there is now synergy between IPD and 88 because target lock will do more if they are both present.
CCyrilS
7 years ago
"Swordd;c-1532447" wrote:
.....

My only concern is that it is a very open-ended thing to balance. You have to make sure, if say 20 characters end up with target lock abilities, that none of them form a broken loop. That's 15k+ combinations that can potentially be formed if you make a 5 man team out of 20 possibilities. There's a lot of potential for brokenness here, which I think will ultimately limit how widely they use target lock.

Well I would think it's safe to say that it would be limited to droids.
goodgil282
New Spectator
7 years ago
"CCyrilS;c-1532452" wrote:
"Swordd;c-1532447" wrote:
.....

My only concern is that it is a very open-ended thing to balance. You have to make sure, if say 20 characters end up with target lock abilities, that none of them form a broken loop. That's 15k+ combinations that can potentially be formed if you make a 5 man team out of 20 possibilities. There's a lot of potential for brokenness here, which I think will ultimately limit how widely they use target lock.

Well I would think it's safe to say that it would be limited to droids.

Well, I'm not sure about that. Scout Trooper has an ability that inflicted target lock on one enemy, so he's probably keeping that when he'll turn to a playable toon.

I think the way to keep it balanced is to limit the number of toons that benefit from it. It might not all be droids, but if the only release 5 toons that with with TL, it could work.

And let's not forget one thing - the effects of TL depends on the toon staying alive. IG 88 is squishy, while Probe Droid literally blows himself up. So there are ways to control this.
superbildo
7 years ago
Absolutely because now there's extra synergy with ig88. An ig88 led droid team is going to be good.

Ig88
Ipd
Bb8
R2
Chopper

Plenty of synergy and bonuses and assists
DVZR
7 years ago
The simple way to think of it is its just like ships. Each ship (character) gets a unique bonus activated when attacking an enemy with TL. Biggs calls an ally to assist. JC gives Defense up to a random ally. Cassian gains extra TM, etc.

So TL is basically a generic "unlock" for certain abilities on different characters.
MeetraZurick
7 years ago
"Nema;c-1532634" wrote:
Absolutely because now there's extra synergy with ig88. An ig88 led droid team is going to be good.

Ig88
Ipd
Bb8
R2
Chopper

Plenty of synergy and bonuses and assists

HK still has the best droid leadership.
xsfenrirx
7 years ago
@VonZant thank you, that's actually helpful. i actually wish there was an in game glossary for all the status effects. it's getting to a point where i can barely remember what all the status effects do... haha
CCyrilS
7 years ago
"perfstz;c-1534539" wrote:
"Liamtbqh;c-1532758" wrote:
"Nema;c-1532634" wrote:
Absolutely because now there's extra synergy with ig88. An ig88 led droid team is going to be good.

Ig88
Ipd
Bb8
R2
Chopper

Plenty of synergy and bonuses and assists

HK still has the best droid leadership.

Yea HK is still definitely the best droid leader, IG88 might be good as a BH leader, either way you VERY MUCH want IG88 on either team, his unique + TL is crazy good, gives him way more survivability and... have you seen that zeta 0_o

I've used droids/Empire/BH almost 2 years I guess so I'm super excited to unlock IPD now!

HK just needs the BH tag and his own contract. I'm kind of looking forward to another DS pve level to try 88 lead and borrow an HK (or vice versa)
BlueRoseBlade
7 years ago
The biggest benefit of IG-88's leadership is that it applies to a lot of non-bounty-hunters, too, so it could be useful for cross-faction draw.