If so, I'd like to know how well it's working, Jedi hitting hard with the offense buff, how effective is it in arena offense? Basically a general review. Thanks in advance

"DragonWzd;83673" wrote:If so, I'd like to know how well it's working, Jedi hitting hard with the offense buff, how effective is it in arena offense? Basically a general review. Thanks in advance I have faced it.. Can easily get annoying but stun and buff immunity is your friend against it. The offense gain will probably be about 20-30% with speed of about 200 so little less than Anakin lead. I was thinking about doing the zeta but after facing it little disappointing. The guy using said his team wins easily on offense.

"scuba;815522" wrote:"DragonWzd;83673" wrote:If so, I'd like to know how well it's working, Jedi hitting hard with the offense buff, how effective is it in arena offense? Basically a general review. Thanks in advance I have faced it.. Can easily get annoying but stun and buff immunity is your friend against it. The offense gain will probably be about 20-30% with speed of about 200 so little less than Anakin lead. I was thinking about doing the zeta but after facing it little disappointing. The guy using said his team wins easily on offense. TFP destroys qgj zeta from what I've noticed but your right on the money

There was a guy on my shard running a zeta'd QGJ for a day. He usually sits top 2. He dropped rank and abandoned the team after a day.

The less Jedi the better. One of the long-time server whales put QGJ zeta and GM Yoda in defense, and I'm pretty sure he held rank. Yoda at 260+ speed (290+ with QGJ's leader) goes first then keeps on going twice throughout the battle, spamming mass foresight left and right. Meanwhile the Jedi couple are being protected by three meta toons, in this case Baze/Boba/EP (unsure about Palp).I'm not saying I run a top-notch team, but this one is truly unbeatable for my Rebels.

I got a zeta QGJ the other day and immediately switched to Jedi in Arena. I run QGJ(L), JKA, Ahsoka, Aayla and Yoda. On offence it is pretty solid. I lived in the 20's of arena and used to claw under 20 every now and then, now I can claim #1 but get knocked down to teens over night. While the damage dealt is not through the roof like a triple shot wiggs, the guaranteed foresight on any unit being defeated is a great tactical advantage. Buff immunity is a pain when they get it through, Yoda always going first (minus Han Solo- dodge) to put tenacity up helps. The mass cleansers are a pain when they have more than one tank. Only lost a few battles, empire can be a good or bad match up depending on if they have B2 or not. Fought Chirrut and Baise thinking all the videos were just hype....nope and never again. I have zero GK shards but he would make this team something else, so that is the long term goal. If your shard is still predominantly WIGGs then this is an easy way to wreck through them and get higher ranks.

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DarthxJay
8 years ago
Cool, thanks for resolving the math for me on that one. I got it mixed up for sure, my bad. ;)
scuba75
Seasoned Rookie
8 years ago
"BrianBuchanans;816545" wrote:
Do Yoda's Zeta and GK have that much of an effect on the team when facing B2/TFP though? Isn't buff block gonna tear this team apart anyways?

Thinking QGJ - GK - Yoda - Ani - Ahsoka/Aayla..

Depends how the battle goes but with fs up bi can't land.
Player_tjsnk0t4
8 years ago
GK can at least clear the buff block. Yoda can prevent it if faster than TFP
scuba75
Seasoned Rookie
8 years ago
"BrianBuchanans;816626" wrote:
"scuba;816578" wrote:
"BrianBuchanans;816545" wrote:
Do Yoda's Zeta and GK have that much of an effect on the team when facing B2/TFP though? Isn't buff block gonna tear this team apart anyways?

Thinking QGJ - GK - Yoda - Ani - Ahsoka/Aayla..

Depends how the battle goes but with fs up bi can't land.

Ohh. Yeah, with the QGJ speed boost TFP is less significant... I was mistaken about B2, then.

Wouldn't TFP --> B2 clear foresight and lay down buff immunity even with fast Yoda though?

They Would Clear The Fs But Not Land Buff Immunty because The Attack Is Dodged.
scuba75
Seasoned Rookie
8 years ago
"BrianBuchanans;816663" wrote:
"ObviouslyNot;816646" wrote:
"scuba;816631" wrote:
"BrianBuchanans;816626" wrote:
"scuba;816578" wrote:
"BrianBuchanans;816545" wrote:
Do Yoda's Zeta and GK have that much of an effect on the team when facing B2/TFP though? Isn't buff block gonna tear this team apart anyways?

Thinking QGJ - GK - Yoda - Ani - Ahsoka/Aayla..

Depends how the battle goes but with fs up bi can't land.

Ohh. Yeah, with the QGJ speed boost TFP is less significant... I was mistaken about B2, then.

Wouldn't TFP --> B2 clear foresight and lay down buff immunity even with fast Yoda though?

They Would Clear The Fs But Not Land Buff Immunty because The Attack Is Dodged.

I think he means tfp laying down an aoe clearing the Fs. Then b2 laying down BI.

Spot on. But I guess GK has a cleanse. Still doesn't sort out B2 going a hundred times in a row

Yeah that would work. Sorry, but yeah GK would most likely just cleanse it.
B2 is great going againt them weak hits to wipe out FS and hopefully land BI once or twice in between.
I haven't face the team with GK yet supposedly he makes it harder battle
DarthxJay
8 years ago
"BrianBuchanans;816663" wrote:
"ObviouslyNot;816646" wrote:
"scuba;816631" wrote:
"BrianBuchanans;816626" wrote:
"scuba;816578" wrote:
"BrianBuchanans;816545" wrote:
Do Yoda's Zeta and GK have that much of an effect on the team when facing B2/TFP though? Isn't buff block gonna tear this team apart anyways?

Thinking QGJ - GK - Yoda - Ani - Ahsoka/Aayla..

Depends how the battle goes but with fs up bi can't land.

Ohh. Yeah, with the QGJ speed boost TFP is less significant... I was mistaken about B2, then.

Wouldn't TFP --> B2 clear foresight and lay down buff immunity even with fast Yoda though?

They Would Clear The Fs But Not Land Buff Immunty because The Attack Is Dodged.

I think he means tfp laying down an aoe clearing the Fs. Then b2 laying down BI.

Spot on. But I guess GK has a cleanse. Still doesn't sort out B2 going a hundred times in a row

You can always adjust your speeds so Yoda goes 2nd to any TFP's on your server, so after TFP clears your foresight, Yoda gives Tenacity-Up and re-foresights everybody.
TNTgoesEA
8 years ago
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"Silleck;817283" wrote:
A few have posted it, most just can't read.
GK is needed for a QGJ Zeta. He makes a huge difference.
Without GK, QGJ zeta is meh
B2 doesn't matter. Quite a few people run b2 and boba on my shard, and can't touch my team.

30 speed, a bunch of offense AND foresight is meh? It might not be as OP as with GK but it's still one of the best leads out there imo. Or who do you rank higher?
cyxapuk_msk
8 years ago
"Silleck;817285" wrote:
"BrianBuchanans;816545" wrote:
Do Yoda's Zeta and GK have that much of an effect on the team when facing B2/TFP though? Isn't buff block gonna tear this team apart anyways?

Thinking QGJ - GK - Yoda - Ani - Ahsoka/Aayla..

What buff block?
TFP is not gonna be going anywhere near first with a QGJ zeta lead team.
And if he does buff block? So what? GK clears it.
How it works is gonna be like this.

Situation 1
Qgj dispell taunt.
B2 goes. Clears the foresight GK deletes a toon with his assist call, with an entire team with offensive UP.
So it seems 4v5 now, entire team gets foresight again., now TFP goes.. what does he do? AOE? Foresight is up. He is now a basic attack toon

Situation 2
Qgj dispels, B2 removes foresight. GK cast retribution. Now TFP goes.. what does he do? AOE? He's dead. He's forced to do a basic attack.

What about fighting against new rebels? Any chance?
cyxapuk_msk
8 years ago
"Silleck;817316" wrote:
"cyxapuk;817294" wrote:
"Silleck;817285" wrote:
"BrianBuchanans;816545" wrote:
Do Yoda's Zeta and GK have that much of an effect on the team when facing B2/TFP though? Isn't buff block gonna tear this team apart anyways?

Thinking QGJ - GK - Yoda - Ani - Ahsoka/Aayla..

What buff block?
TFP is not gonna be going anywhere near first with a QGJ zeta lead team.
And if he does buff block? So what? GK clears it.
How it works is gonna be like this.

Situation 1
Qgj dispell taunt.
B2 goes. Clears the foresight GK deletes a toon with his assist call, with an entire team with offensive UP.
So it seems 4v5 now, entire team gets foresight again., now TFP goes.. what does he do? AOE? Foresight is up. He is now a basic attack toon

Situation 2
Qgj dispels, B2 removes foresight. GK cast retribution. Now TFP goes.. what does he do? AOE? He's dead. He's forced to do a basic attack.

What about fighting against new rebels? Any chance?

Not really, they are annoying, at best. I fought Charaltan from TI in the tournament. Beat him only lost one toon . He was running wedge lead, Biggs, chaze and GK

Fought a jyn lead as well, was no problem on offense

Thanks, so I will go to qgj first. Will have GK and zeta soon and my arena is already full of baze and chirrut.
Can I see your Swgoh.gg profile?
DarthxJay
8 years ago
"Silleck;817285" wrote:
"BrianBuchanans;816545" wrote:
Do Yoda's Zeta and GK have that much of an effect on the team when facing B2/TFP though? Isn't buff block gonna tear this team apart anyways?

Thinking QGJ - GK - Yoda - Ani - Ahsoka/Aayla..

What buff block?
TFP is not gonna be going anywhere near first with a QGJ zeta lead team.
And if he does buff block? So what? GK clears it.
How it works is gonna be like this.

Situation 1
Qgj dispell taunt.
B2 goes. Clears the foresight GK deletes a toon with his assist call, with an entire team with offensive UP.
So it seems 4v5 now, entire team gets foresight again., now TFP goes.. what does he do? AOE? Foresight is up. He is now a basic attack toon

Situation 2
Qgj dispels, B2 removes foresight. GK cast retribution. Now TFP goes.. what does he do? AOE? He's dead. He's forced to do a basic attack.

Cool, you have a handle on this comp. What about Yoda's zeta on Battle Meditation in the mix? We've had some debate in our guild as most of us are unlocking him soon. One guy wants Yoda to go first and I'm thinking Yoda needs to be slower than the fastest TFP or Boba on your server. Reason being is TFP or Boba (I face a 250 speed Boba) go and open with their AOE removing all of QGJ's zeta foresight, then Yoda goes after QGJ and reapplies Foresight with Tenacity-Up. To me it seems like wasted value if Yoda goes first. What do you think since you've been playing this comp?

Also, what's your lineup? We're debating QGJ, Yoda, Aayla, JKA, GK vs. QGJ, Yoda, Ahsoka, JKA, GK. I'm personally leaning towards Ahsoka because of her survivability and damage at max gear.

Lastly, how fast is your lineup before QGJ's leader?

Best Regards
@Silleck