Yoda gains bonus turn meter despite HK's zeta

Yup ... HKs zeta doesn't seem to do what it advertices... Maybe it's WAI, maybe it's not ... Devs will hopefully make a statement soon.

He adds his turn meter before the protection buff.

This zeta was meant to prevent Bastila lead more than anything.

He actually gains the tm before the protection up. Devs flagged it for review, but that doesn't mean they won't still come out and say WAI.

@slickdealer @crzydroid

His Battle Meditation ability description clearly states otherwise though.

"dominiQC;c-1820109" wrote:
@slickdealer @crzydroid

His Battle Meditation ability description clearly states otherwise though.

No it doesn't. The only actions that are sequenced in that description is that he spreads buffs after he gives some to himself. The tm gain is a different sentence and there's no "and then" portion of that so by the description could take place before or after or at the same time as the protection up.

So if it doesn’t slow down GMY under Revan, then why bother? Is there any other character than regularly gains TM with protection up? I’m pretty sure no one is using bastila in the arena anymore.

Not disagreeing that given the interpretation of the description, or immediate thoughts upon reading HK's zeta that it should stop this. Merely stating that if you look at mechanics on swgoh.gg, tm gain happens first. It's far from the first time the order of things in a description doesn't match execution order.

Someone has made a bug report on this and they've flagged it for review, but they could still decide it's WAI.

"Gheyst1214;c-1820359" wrote:
I’m pretty in that specific instance it’s WAI. If JKR, Bastila, Bindo, or GK call GMY to assist nobody moves. I know because I fought a DR squad in arena today and that’s exactly what happened. Needless to say I lost badly.

That's because of Darth Revan's zeta preventing assists on him, not HK's zeta stopping TM gain.

It would be normal to think you gain TM after performing actions from your turn, jot before. Then the action sequence in the description is clear, TM happens at the end. If they designed to happen first, then it should be written first in the description.

It wouldn't make sence to describe my day saying: I had dinner with my wife. I woke early. Unless they wanted to give a yoda RP touch to his ability.

"dominiQC;c-1820652" wrote:
It would be normal to think you gain TM after performing actions from your turn, jot before. Then the action sequence in the description is clear, TM happens at the end. If they designed to happen first, then it should be written first in the description.

It wouldn't make sence to describe my day saying: I had dinner with my wife. I woke early. Unless they wanted to give a yoda RP touch to his ability.

So your response is more or less "If I worded it that way, it would mean this. Therefore it means this."

Well, we're all welcome to our own interpretations, but an international online game can't use everyone's tendencies in vernacular therefore we must learn to understand their common parlance. in these types of games, the general assumption is that unless timing is specifically worded, it typically happens at the same time. I would assume this happens at the same time. If it did, then the tm gain would not be stopped.

The rule system for this game is very like magic the gathering. If a card or ability has multiple effects, nothing occurs in between them (unless stated otherwise with a phrase such as "and then". Not having bonus prot when doing the check for tm (which happens right before it applies) means that it should go through.

So there you go, you've been helped and hopefully now know better than to misinterpret this type of statement in the future since this is following a standard logical pattern in gaming wording.