"Mvnson;786088" wrote:
Of course, this math hinges on some basic "assumptions". The first and most obvious one, which has never been adequately addressed, is what "advantage" you get with having one Zeta.
Alright, so let's start with the basics. First - you clearly have an attitude problem or a tone problem. You're welcome to criticize my argument, but your language is consistently hostile and insulting. Please stop. You've made some good points but the air quotes, claiming victory, etc isn't necessary.
"Mvnson;786088" wrote:
1... 2...
These are both fallacious arguments, at best. You're claiming that no one - not a single person would benefit from the upgrade in either GW or Rancor. Just because you can't imagine it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
"Mvnson;786088" wrote:
3. There is a gain here, but it won't be much.
Agreed. I admit to a bit of bias here because I have a team of strong Jedi that lack a good lead and that may not be the case for all F2P and low-end dolphins.
"Mvnson;786088" wrote:
4. LS/DS Battles. QGJ led zeta will definitely help beat these easily, but again, its something most people are going to be doing without it, and theres no rewards here anyway to give you an edge.
Have you completed all of the LS nodes on hard already? There are a lot of people that have not, and in particular 9B is drastically harder thanks to boba's rework, which is key to unlocking node 9D to make GS's ship farmable via energy. Even if no one that is 80+ hasn't unlocked 9D already, new players that are just coming up to that level can certainly use the edge.
"Mvnson;786088" wrote:
How many QGJ led teams are on your ladder now?
This is possibly the most short-sighted comment I've seen from you. How many Boba Fetts did you see prior to his rework in the top 50? For me, it was 0. How many are there now? There are 3 in my top 10 alone, and I'm not going to count the top 50 to prove the point.
"Mvnson;786088" wrote:
So are you suggesting that an all new Jedi Super Team led by Zeta Qui Gin is going to emerge into the top ten all of a sudden?
This wasn't my claim. Exaggerating my claim when I've made it quite clear is just being deceitful on your part. You should go back and read what I actually claimed.
"Mvnson;786088" wrote:
Ok, you want more "substantial" proof than that. Look up DarthShawn on this forum. He got the QGJ zeta yesterday (whales, gotta love em), and you can read his threads about it. TLDR; And the survey says.............. "meh, potential, but the team aint there yet". There you go real world proof.
Relevant to @Mageduckey as well: So, this I would accept as proof, if the ability turned out to be bad. It would suck and pretty much kill the RZ/RS argument dead in the water if none of the zeta upgrades were good. With such a silver bullet, I thought it weird that neither his text nor a link was provided (not to mention an incorrect spelling of the username). Here's his quoted post:
"DarthMasterShawn;785691" wrote:
"tRRRey;785337" wrote:
I think Jedi will need Kenobi to truly shine under QGJ Zeta lead. He'll provide additional foresight as well as crit immunity and constant taunts. Plus that cleanse will be the perfect way to deal with B2 and TFP
I did Q. On offense the all Jedi tore it up pretty good. Jedi do still lack the true grit. A fast AOE takes that out, and Echo or B2 are nice counters. Though the Foresight at any defeated character does help swing momentum. I tested out in arena.
Q
Ani
Yoda
Aayla
Ima
Now using
Q
Ani
Yoda
EP
TFP
So, uh... I don't really consider "tore it up pretty good" to be a "meh" response. But I'll let you judge for yourself.
