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It is not conjecture.
If you target a unit (jedi or not) with out tenacity up it can happen
I have tested multiple time and also the mechanics (as shown on swgoh.gg) show that it is not filtering out units that didn't get the first part (armor modification) when it applies the second part (resistance modification) and the speed reduction.
Someone posted another bug report where Slave I's Seismic Charge is being evaded by everyone if the target evades. I wonder if something broke in general with AoEs.
- scuba755 years agoLegend
I don't think so over all.
If you look at old Ben's Mind Tricks for offense down and JML Efflux for breech mechanics on swgoh.gg you can see a difference in how the un_resistable parts apply
OB mind tricks special damage reduction (unresistable)
"This effect will FILTER OUT available targets based on the previous effect's target(s) that failed to execute the effect"
Previous effect is the physical damage reduction (resistable)
JML Efflux resistance reduction and speed reduction (unresistable)
"This effect will EXECUTE if the previous effect successfully executed"
Previous effect is armor reduction (resistable)
So if armor reduction lands on one unit it will apply resistance and speed reduction to all.
So Mind Tricks checks which units the Physical Damage reduction (resistable) apllied to and then applies the Special Damage reduction to those same units (unresistable)
Efflux only checks if the armor reduction (resistable) applied to any unit if it did it applies resistance and speed reduction (unresistable) to all units.
Slave 1 AoE is similar to OB mind tricks in that it will only do the health damage to those units that it did physical damage to.
Unfortunately evasion info is not really shown in .gg mechanics so hard to say if the damage is dodged by one it is dodged by all, but that should definitely not be the case.
- 5 years ago
@scuba75 so is the bug that breach part 1 has success = any(armor_reduction_applied), whereas success should be elementwise?
- scuba755 years agoLegend
Efflux attempts to apply Breech_armor_reduction to all enemies
It will be resisted by those with Tenacity up
It may apply to those without Tenacity up.
next in the order of operations it looks to see if the Breech_armor_reduction applied if it did it will apply the breech_resistance_reducation to all enemies and if that applies (which it will because it can't be resisted) it will apply the breech_speed_reduction to all enemies (which also can't be resisted)
What it needs to do is filter out the enemies that the breech_armor_reduction did not apply to and only apply the resistance and speed reductions to those.
It is normal for the 2nd, 3rd etc parts of a debuff to be unresistable as it doesn't make sense for each part to go thru the resistance check, however it should only be applied to the units that received the first part.
Hope that makes sense
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