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aejp24
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8 years ago

Was it always this hard?

So today I installed the sims 1 on my laptop and it installed fine but because I have windows 10 it wouldn't load. No biggie, I found a youtube video that helped me and it worked! I had my three daughters help me create our sims family. They're all 10 and younger. Anyhow we buy a house and I remember the cheat rosebud; from my sims 1 days when I was a little older than my oldest daughter. In the first five minutes, our house is in flames because of the genie. It burns everything in the whole room because we forgot a fire detector. Silly me. I hardly use them in the sims 4. Anyhow one of our sims dies. We exit the game without saving and try again, but it just feels like we're trying to keep them happy 24/7. It's so hard for our sims to do anything besides eating, sleeping, and going to the bathroom because their needs drop so fast. Was it always this hard? I don't remember because it's been years since I've played. I like the random phone calls though and the house fires. I like that you never know what's going to happen, and all the sims are really interesting.

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  • greenean71's avatar
    greenean71
    8 years ago
    In my Prima game guide for TS2, it actually spoke of how the main object of TS1 was dealing with the needs, careers, everyday life and keeping Sims happy. That was the main part of the game. There was also a different sort factor for them, like ranking which of the needs was top priority. In TS1, they just randomly selected between the top 3, which was hunger, social and bladder. Even if bladder was low, since it was a random choice, they may have picked going to the fridge instead, which is why, according to the guide there were so many bladder accidents and why it required much of player interaction. It also spoke of how Sims in TS2 had a much better "picking" system and that they can actually, for the most part, take care of themselves without much player interaction.
  • Sigzy_29's avatar
    Sigzy_29
    Legend
    8 years ago
    "auroraael14;d-924907" wrote:
    So today I installed the sims 1 on my laptop and it installed fine but because I have windows 10 it wouldn't load. No biggie, I found a youtube video that helped me and it worked! I had my three daughters help me create our sims family. They're all 10 and younger. Anyhow we buy a house and I remember the cheat rosebud; from my sims 1 days when I was a little older than my oldest daughter. In the first five minutes, our house is in flames because of the genie. It burns everything in the whole room because we forgot a fire detector. Silly me. I hardly use them in the sims 4. Anyhow one of our sims dies. We exit the game without saving and try again, but it just feels like we're trying to keep them happy 24/7. It's so hard for our sims to do anything besides eating, sleeping, and going to the bathroom because their needs drop so fast. Was it always this hard? I don't remember because it's been years since I've played. I like the random phone calls though and the house fires. I like that you never know what's going to happen, and all the sims are really interesting.


    Well I have The Sims 1 on my laptop and yes it can be pretty hard, when you compare to TS3 and TS4. TS1 focused very heavily on the sim's needs it can be a struggle especially at first because games nowadays are so easy to handle.

    Sims 1 sims are like the pregnant woman on TS2, their needs drop faaaast. You have to come up with strategies to make them happy, use the objects on community lots that can help your sims build fun and other things, make them wash their hands for a while etc.

    After a while I got used to it and have been able to manage my sim's household pretty well. Although so far it's just my sim and her pet dog.

    Also, keep an eye on your fund income (click on the funds), there's a panel that shows how much your household makes and how much they spend.
  • Cinebar's avatar
    Cinebar
    8 years ago
    "jackjack_k;c-16179968" wrote:
    "@Cinebar;c-16032306" wrote:
    Yep, it was hard, and back then I didn't even know the cheats! because I had internet (dial up) sometimes and months or a year without etc. I was lucky to even get to go to The Sims site as much as I did.

    You have to stack points. Like for eating, a better fridge, a better counter, a better stove, more skill points all add up to getting full and lasting longer.

    Better furniture offers better comfort etc. Better stuff for fun offers faster filling of the fun motive. It's all about trying to get better stuff so you have time to live. But just when you think you have the hang of it, and get them scheduled an event will happen that will make you have to go down a different road, lol. You can see from TS4 how watered down the game has really become. I bet you can go to the store and not worry about your Sims in TS4, lol


    To be fair, The Sims 4 is harder than The Sims 3.
    The Sims 3 was literally advertsised that Sims would take care of themselves. That's when that started.

    The Sims 4 tried to make things harder (eg. Bills etc) but this generation of gamers don't want anything too hard.
    Instant gratification.

    I miss The Sims 2 games. Perfect balance.


    I actually did love the bills are so high in TS4, I want them to be that high in TS2, too. My Clue family in TS4 moved into their mansion and then couldn't really afford it. >:) and were always getting their power and water turned off, but the bad thing was they didn't really seem to mind all that much. It bothered me more than them. :/ It could have been so much better for TS4 is the power off had some really bad consequences if that had happened in TS2 or worse in TS1 they would have been raving, or crying. lol That should be tweaked in TS4 to make it more realistic and matter to those Sims.
  • Sigzy_29's avatar
    Sigzy_29
    Legend
    8 years ago
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    "Erpe;c-16180449" wrote:
    "jackjack_k;c-16179968" wrote:
    "@Cinebar;c-16032306" wrote:
    Yep, it was hard, and back then I didn't even know the cheats! because I had internet (dial up) sometimes and months or a year without etc. I was lucky to even get to go to The Sims site as much as I did.

    You have to stack points. Like for eating, a better fridge, a better counter, a better stove, more skill points all add up to getting full and lasting longer.

    Better furniture offers better comfort etc. Better stuff for fun offers faster filling of the fun motive. It's all about trying to get better stuff so you have time to live. But just when you think you have the hang of it, and get them scheduled an event will happen that will make you have to go down a different road, lol. You can see from TS4 how watered down the game has really become. I bet you can go to the store and not worry about your Sims in TS4, lol


    To be fair, The Sims 4 is harder than The Sims 3.
    The Sims 3 was literally advertsised that Sims would take care of themselves. That's when that started.

    The Sims 4 tried to make things harder (eg. Bills etc) but this generation of gamers don't want anything too hard.
    Instant gratification.

    I miss The Sims 2 games. Perfect balance.

    I don’t agree because the Sims 2 was too easy too. That was one of the main reasons why I stopped playing it after about 2.5 years.

    But even so the way it was done in the Sims 1 wasn’t good either because it isn’t really taking care of the needs that should be harder. It is the gameplay in a more general way.


    The hardest for me are TS1 and TS2. If you don't have the Freetime EP and you don't have the needs perks, they drop real fast too, especially when a sim is pregnant, not to mention the aspiration failure due to fears can make the game very hard because you won't be able to put your sim in a good mood at all. In TS3 managing the mood is easier, in TS4 even easier it is as a simple decor item can put them happy.
  • PrincessrozeeS's avatar
    PrincessrozeeS
    New Hotshot
    8 years ago
    "maryjane2joe;c-16264968" wrote:
    !!HaHa!! I absolutely LOVE these kinda stories!! The first thing my grandbaby taught me about the Sims a long time ago was.... Cheats... Cheats... and more... Cheats!!


    What is the point of cheating? Yes you may get all you want and things you want in the game but for me the whole point of a game is to achieve without cheats. The only time I ever had a cheat in my game was in the Sims 1 because talking to other Sims relied heavily on the interests a Sims had and it would bring relationships down really fast if they didn't have at some points in that interest. And reading up on interests only took points from one to another. But once they brought out Superstar and Makin' Magic there was little reason to cheat! I only ever used a mod in the Sims 2 to stop witches going on community lots because they never sorted out that problem with FreeTime and I used to often get several witches turning up at the same time! Good and Bad LOL

    I like the challenge in all the Sims games. Even the glitches make me cross at times but I will not even use a cheat or boolprop to sort that out. I hope that it will eventually be sorted out with patches! One can live in hope LOL

  • PrincessrozeeS's avatar
    PrincessrozeeS
    New Hotshot
    8 years ago
    "Cinebar;c-16032306" wrote:
    Yep, it was hard, and back then I didn't even know the cheats! because I had internet (dial up) sometimes and months or a year without etc. I was lucky to even get to go to The Sims site as much as I did. quote]

    Yep I remember dial up when I was playing the Sims 1, going online to check out the Sims 1 website used to disable our phone service so if someone was trying to phone the line was permanently engaged. One thing I am very happy about with internet changes and broadband :)

    I think the Sims 1 was probably the hardest of all the Sims games although when I am able to go and play it now it seems very retro compared to today's Sims. Of course having all the EP's helped much with playing and enhanced the game a lot with needs and friendship.

    When I was playing the Sims 1 I didn't want to go and play the Sims 2 because I didn't think they could improve and what I thought was the best game ever. But once I was playing the Sims 2 of course my mind changed about that! :)

  • Erpeerpe's avatar
    Erpeerpe
    8 years ago
    "Sigzy05;c-16265007" wrote:
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    "Erpe;c-16180449" wrote:
    "jackjack_k;c-16179968" wrote:
    "@Cinebar;c-16032306" wrote:
    Yep, it was hard, and back then I didn't even know the cheats! because I had internet (dial up) sometimes and months or a year without etc. I was lucky to even get to go to The Sims site as much as I did.

    You have to stack points. Like for eating, a better fridge, a better counter, a better stove, more skill points all add up to getting full and lasting longer.

    Better furniture offers better comfort etc. Better stuff for fun offers faster filling of the fun motive. It's all about trying to get better stuff so you have time to live. But just when you think you have the hang of it, and get them scheduled an event will happen that will make you have to go down a different road, lol. You can see from TS4 how watered down the game has really become. I bet you can go to the store and not worry about your Sims in TS4, lol


    To be fair, The Sims 4 is harder than The Sims 3.
    The Sims 3 was literally advertsised that Sims would take care of themselves. That's when that started.

    The Sims 4 tried to make things harder (eg. Bills etc) but this generation of gamers don't want anything too hard.
    Instant gratification.

    I miss The Sims 2 games. Perfect balance.

    I don’t agree because the Sims 2 was too easy too. That was one of the main reasons why I stopped playing it after about 2.5 years.

    But even so the way it was done in the Sims 1 wasn’t good either because it isn’t really taking care of the needs that should be harder. It is the gameplay in a more general way.


    The hardest for me are TS1 and TS2. If you don't have the Freetime EP and you don't have the needs perks, they drop real fast too, especially when a sim is pregnant, not to mention the aspiration failure due to fears can make the game very hard because you won't be able to put your sim in a good mood at all. In TS3 managing the mood is easier, in TS4 even easier it is as a simple decor item can put them happy.

    Everything is relative. You may be right if you only have played Sims games. But I came from harder strategic war games like Total Annihilation and Starcraft when I bought Sims 2 as my first Sims game. So I found it to be a good game - but just too easy.

    Later I bought Sims 1 too out of curiosity. I found it harder than Sims 2 - but not really in a good way. So I quickly returned to Sims 2 after trying Sims 1 and its expansions too.
  • Tootsyim1's avatar
    Tootsyim1
    8 years ago
    I love the original Sims and I've been sad because I was unable to get it to work on my "mega monster" machine that my son built for me. So every now and again I would whine a little about "the good ol' days" and last night my son came over with a computer with Windows XP and now I'm the happiest Momma in the World!!
    I remember it being hard, but holy cow!! I very quickly lost a couple in a massive house fire! I never knew, back then, that there were cheats for the game, and I (probably) won't be using them this time around. Heck, I didn't realize there was a website where everyone loved the Sims as much as me! I finally found the forum midway through Sims 2!! :D

    Anyway, just came on to say BEST BIRTHDAY EVER!! <3 Who knew that day, long ago, when I got rid of my old computer that I would be happy to have XP again!! :*
  • MsMoBear's avatar
    MsMoBear
    New Vanguard
    8 years ago
    It was apparently that hard, but it didn't seem like it at the time for me particularly because there was no other frame of reference. It was the first of its kind. I was able to find the whole collection of Sims 1 games at a thrift store a couple years ago. 10 bucks total. It was beautiful. I started playing and was like "whoa. This is HARD." But I had played all of TS2, all of TS3, and now playing TS4, they are all a breeze compared to TS1. They still have a special place in my heart though. :)

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