Sims 2 General Discussion

"iedy;c-16710464" wrote:
@Seera1024 Ultimate Collection it is

It's not really patched with all patches. Some things about the combined packs it uses causes old bugs to reappear. MATY's has a fix for that.

"Cinebar;c-16710927" wrote:

"iedy;c-16710464" wrote:
@Seera1024 Ultimate Collection it is

It's not really patched with all patches. Some things about the combined packs it uses causes old bugs to reappear. MATY's has a fix for that.

I haven't noticed other skills being learned faster by the few Sims that I do have learn Physiology.

I've got the Ultimate Collection installed and I do not have the MATY hack that prevented that bug on my system. I rarely have Sims learn Physiology, so I never had a reason to download the fix.

But I ran an experiment to see if they did break it again.

I loaded up 2 Sims who both had learned no skills and were on the same lot. Had one learn Physiology. Had them both start skilling body at the same time to make sure it was working properly - the control. The Sim who learned Physiology was learning body faster.

Then had both start learning cooking at the same time. Both learning at the same pace.

Then just to make sure I didn't forget about having the MATY fix, I yanked my entire CC folder out. Deleted groups and accessory cache files to be sure all mod remnants removed. Repeated the test. It was hilarious seeing the outfits and hairs the game put my Sims in.

Same thing happened, the body was learned faster by only the Sim who learned Physiology and the cooking was learned at the same rate by both Sims.

So the UC did not undo the Physiology skill gain glitch.

Do you have any mods installed @iedy ?

"Seera1024;c-16711029" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-16710927" wrote:

"iedy;c-16710464" wrote:
@Seera1024 Ultimate Collection it is

It's not really patched with all patches. Some things about the combined packs it uses causes old bugs to reappear. MATY's has a fix for that.

I haven't noticed other skills being learned faster by the few Sims that I do have learn Physiology.

I've got the Ultimate Collection installed and I do not have the MATY hack that prevented that bug on my system. I rarely have Sims learn Physiology, so I never had a reason to download the fix.

But I ran an experiment to see if they did break it again.

I loaded up 2 Sims who both had learned no skills and were on the same lot. Had one learn Physiology. Had them both start skilling body at the same time to make sure it was working properly - the control. The Sim who learned Physiology was learning body faster.

Then had both start learning cooking at the same time. Both learning at the same pace.

Then just to make sure I didn't forget about having the MATY fix, I yanked my entire CC folder out. Deleted groups and accessory cache files to be sure all mod remnants removed. Repeated the test. It was hilarious seeing the outfits and hairs the game put my Sims in.

Same thing happened, the body was learned faster by only the Sim who learned Physiology and the cooking was learned at the same rate by both Sims.

So the UC did not undo the Physiology skill gain glitch.

Do you have any mods installed @iedy ?

"Seera1024;c-16711029" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-16710927" wrote:

"iedy;c-16710464" wrote:
@Seera1024 Ultimate Collection it is

It's not really patched with all patches. Some things about the combined packs it uses causes old bugs to reappear. MATY's has a fix for that.

I haven't noticed other skills being learned faster by the few Sims that I do have learn Physiology.

I've got the Ultimate Collection installed and I do not have the MATY hack that prevented that bug on my system. I rarely have Sims learn Physiology, so I never had a reason to download the fix.

But I ran an experiment to see if they did break it again.

I loaded up 2 Sims who both had learned no skills and were on the same lot. Had one learn Physiology. Had them both start skilling body at the same time to make sure it was working properly - the control. The Sim who learned Physiology was learning body faster.

Then had both start learning cooking at the same time. Both learning at the same pace.

Then just to make sure I didn't forget about having the MATY fix, I yanked my entire CC folder out. Deleted groups and accessory cache files to be sure all mod remnants removed. Repeated the test. It was hilarious seeing the outfits and hairs the game put my Sims in.

Same thing happened, the body was learned faster by only the Sim who learned Physiology and the cooking was learned at the same rate by both Sims.

So the UC did not undo the Physiology skill gain glitch.

Do you have any mods installed @iedy ?

If body skill was learned faster with all mods out of game etc. doesn't that mean yes, TS2UC doesn't have the patch for it? It would seem so. But as far as learning logic faster etc. I think more serious Sims or is it more playful Sims can learn faster than others? I know all my Sims can learn the logic skill pretty fast and always have. It's why I hate buying a chess table for every house if they need a few for a career etc. They are so attracted to it, all of them use it if I have one and all of them are just about maxed out most of the time, unless I get rid of it. Didn't FT influence how fast a Sim could learn somthing if that's part of their preferred hobby? Like games might influence logic? Or cooking enthusiam influence how fast they learn? I never liked FT so I rarely have my Sims do anything that helps build their redundant hobbies.

ETA: Argh, double quote, sorry about that, I hit the bold and it posted twice.

"Cinebar;c-16711062" wrote:

"Seera1024;c-16711029" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-16710927" wrote:

"iedy;c-16710464" wrote:
@Seera1024 Ultimate Collection it is

It's not really patched with all patches. Some things about the combined packs it uses causes old bugs to reappear. MATY's has a fix for that.

I haven't noticed other skills being learned faster by the few Sims that I do have learn Physiology.

I've got the Ultimate Collection installed and I do not have the MATY hack that prevented that bug on my system. I rarely have Sims learn Physiology, so I never had a reason to download the fix.

But I ran an experiment to see if they did break it again.

I loaded up 2 Sims who both had learned no skills and were on the same lot. Had one learn Physiology. Had them both start skilling body at the same time to make sure it was working properly - the control. The Sim who learned Physiology was learning body faster.

Then had both start learning cooking at the same time. Both learning at the same pace.

Then just to make sure I didn't forget about having the MATY fix, I yanked my entire CC folder out. Deleted groups and accessory cache files to be sure all mod remnants removed. Repeated the test. It was hilarious seeing the outfits and hairs the game put my Sims in.

Same thing happened, the body was learned faster by only the Sim who learned Physiology and the cooking was learned at the same rate by both Sims.

So the UC did not undo the Physiology skill gain glitch.

Do you have any mods installed @iedy ?

If body skill was learned faster with all mods out of game etc. doesn't that mean yes, TS2UC doesn't have the patch for it? It would seem so. But as far as learning logic faster etc. I think more serious Sims or is it more playful Sims can learn faster than others? I know all my Sims can learn the logic skill pretty fast and always have. It's why I hate buying a chess table for every house if they need a few for a career etc. They are so attracted to it, all of them use it if I have one and all of them are just about maxed out most of the time, unless I get rid of it. Didn't FT influence how fast a Sim could learn somthing if that's part of their preferred hobby? Like games might influence logic? Or cooking enthusiam influence how fast they learn? I never liked FT so I rarely have my Sims do anything that helps build their redundant hobbies.

Physiology if working right only boosts the skill gain of the Body skill. Because you know more of how the body works. EA goofed initially and had it affect the skill gain rate of all skills and not just the Body skill.

I had forgotten about personality points affecting the Body skill gain, but in an unmodded game the skill gain boost from just one Sim being active and the other not should not cause the difference to look like this - the one on the left gained the 1st skill level as I cancelled the interaction, the one on the right still had a body skill of 0:

https://imgur.com/0812Ek8.jpg

None of them got the pop up that Fitness or the one that learning cooking raises was their preferred hobby so if that causes it it's not skewing things here.

And I can't find anything that says how much faster active Sims learn Body and how much slower lazy Sims learn body. I will note that in my testing my active Sim is the one who learned Physiology.

I'm headed to go get lunch and once I'm back with it, I'll repeat my test with 2 Sims who have the same Active/Lazy personality points.

Testing #2 done with Sims with 9 active points so the personality affects the skilling rate the same.

Had both learn Body at the same time and Mechanical at the same time (one of them kept using the longer pull book from shelf animation or it would have been cooking). Both learned the skills at the same rate as the other.

Then exited without saving and came back in and had one learn Physiology. Then had both learn Body and Mechanical. The one that learned Physiology learned Body much faster than the other. Both learned Mechanical at the same rate.

Had mods pulled and caches cleared so no mods affecting results.

So iegy's problem is not the Physiology skill gain glitch.

"Seera1024;c-16711110" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-16711062" wrote:

"Seera1024;c-16711029" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-16710927" wrote:

"iedy;c-16710464" wrote:
@Seera1024 Ultimate Collection it is

It's not really patched with all patches. Some things about the combined packs it uses causes old bugs to reappear. MATY's has a fix for that.

I haven't noticed other skills being learned faster by the few Sims that I do have learn Physiology.

I've got the Ultimate Collection installed and I do not have the MATY hack that prevented that bug on my system. I rarely have Sims learn Physiology, so I never had a reason to download the fix.

But I ran an experiment to see if they did break it again.

I loaded up 2 Sims who both had learned no skills and were on the same lot. Had one learn Physiology. Had them both start skilling body at the same time to make sure it was working properly - the control. The Sim who learned Physiology was learning body faster.

Then had both start learning cooking at the same time. Both learning at the same pace.

Then just to make sure I didn't forget about having the MATY fix, I yanked my entire CC folder out. Deleted groups and accessory cache files to be sure all mod remnants removed. Repeated the test. It was hilarious seeing the outfits and hairs the game put my Sims in.

Same thing happened, the body was learned faster by only the Sim who learned Physiology and the cooking was learned at the same rate by both Sims.

So the UC did not undo the Physiology skill gain glitch.

Do you have any mods installed @iedy ?

If body skill was learned faster with all mods out of game etc. doesn't that mean yes, TS2UC doesn't have the patch for it? It would seem so. But as far as learning logic faster etc. I think more serious Sims or is it more playful Sims can learn faster than others? I know all my Sims can learn the logic skill pretty fast and always have. It's why I hate buying a chess table for every house if they need a few for a career etc. They are so attracted to it, all of them use it if I have one and all of them are just about maxed out most of the time, unless I get rid of it. Didn't FT influence how fast a Sim could learn somthing if that's part of their preferred hobby? Like games might influence logic? Or cooking enthusiam influence how fast they learn? I never liked FT so I rarely have my Sims do anything that helps build their redundant hobbies.

Physiology if working right only boosts the skill gain of the Body skill. Because you know more of how the body works. EA goofed initially and had it affect the skill gain rate of all skills and not just the Body skill.

I had forgotten about personality points affecting the Body skill gain, but in an unmodded game the skill gain boost from just one Sim being active and the other not should not cause the difference to look like this - the one on the left gained the 1st skill level as I cancelled the interaction, the one on the right still had a body skill of 0:

https://imgur.com/0812Ek8.jpg

None of them got the pop up that Fitness or the one that learning cooking raises was their preferred hobby so if that causes it it's not skewing things here.

And I can't find anything that says how much faster active Sims learn Body and how much slower lazy Sims learn body. I will note that in my testing my active Sim is the one who learned Physiology.

I'm headed to go get lunch and once I'm back with it, I'll repeat my test with 2 Sims who have the same Active/Lazy personality points.

I reread their post and it seems they are saying their Sims are learning body skill too fast with the sphere and pool. Not anything else? It would help if they would come back and answer if their Sim had learned the physiology skills first, then no testing would be necessary. We would know why, because TS2UC doesn't contain the fix for that.

"Cinebar;c-16712401" wrote:

"Seera1024;c-16711110" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-16711062" wrote:

"Seera1024;c-16711029" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-16710927" wrote:

"iedy;c-16710464" wrote:
@Seera1024 Ultimate Collection it is

It's not really patched with all patches. Some things about the combined packs it uses causes old bugs to reappear. MATY's has a fix for that.

I haven't noticed other skills being learned faster by the few Sims that I do have learn Physiology.

I've got the Ultimate Collection installed and I do not have the MATY hack that prevented that bug on my system. I rarely have Sims learn Physiology, so I never had a reason to download the fix.

But I ran an experiment to see if they did break it again.

I loaded up 2 Sims who both had learned no skills and were on the same lot. Had one learn Physiology. Had them both start skilling body at the same time to make sure it was working properly - the control. The Sim who learned Physiology was learning body faster.

Then had both start learning cooking at the same time. Both learning at the same pace.

Then just to make sure I didn't forget about having the MATY fix, I yanked my entire CC folder out. Deleted groups and accessory cache files to be sure all mod remnants removed. Repeated the test. It was hilarious seeing the outfits and hairs the game put my Sims in.

Same thing happened, the body was learned faster by only the Sim who learned Physiology and the cooking was learned at the same rate by both Sims.

So the UC did not undo the Physiology skill gain glitch.

Do you have any mods installed @iedy ?

If body skill was learned faster with all mods out of game etc. doesn't that mean yes, TS2UC doesn't have the patch for it? It would seem so. But as far as learning logic faster etc. I think more serious Sims or is it more playful Sims can learn faster than others? I know all my Sims can learn the logic skill pretty fast and always have. It's why I hate buying a chess table for every house if they need a few for a career etc. They are so attracted to it, all of them use it if I have one and all of them are just about maxed out most of the time, unless I get rid of it. Didn't FT influence how fast a Sim could learn somthing if that's part of their preferred hobby? Like games might influence logic? Or cooking enthusiam influence how fast they learn? I never liked FT so I rarely have my Sims do anything that helps build their redundant hobbies.

Physiology if working right only boosts the skill gain of the Body skill. Because you know more of how the body works. EA goofed initially and had it affect the skill gain rate of all skills and not just the Body skill.

I had forgotten about personality points affecting the Body skill gain, but in an unmodded game the skill gain boost from just one Sim being active and the other not should not cause the difference to look like this - the one on the left gained the 1st skill level as I cancelled the interaction, the one on the right still had a body skill of 0:

https://imgur.com/0812Ek8.jpg

None of them got the pop up that Fitness or the one that learning cooking raises was their preferred hobby so if that causes it it's not skewing things here.

And I can't find anything that says how much faster active Sims learn Body and how much slower lazy Sims learn body. I will note that in my testing my active Sim is the one who learned Physiology.

I'm headed to go get lunch and once I'm back with it, I'll repeat my test with 2 Sims who have the same Active/Lazy personality points.

I reread their post and it seems they are saying their Sims are learning body skill too fast with the sphere and pool. Not anything else? It would help if they would come back and answer if their Sim had learned the physiology skills first, then no testing would be necessary. We would know why, because TS2UC doesn't contain the fix for that.

I proved yesterday that the UC has the fix for it. If the fix was not in place, I would have had the skill rate increase with the cooking skill and mechanical skill. Physiology is supposed to raise the skill learning rate of body only. I pulled my mods during testing so there was no mod influence in the final results.

It would also be helpful if they let us know if they have any mods.

Does anyone know if The Sims 2 has a cheat to reset a sim like The Sims 3 and The Sims 4?

"Seera1024;c-16712647" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-16712401" wrote:

"Seera1024;c-16711110" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-16711062" wrote:

"Seera1024;c-16711029" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-16710927" wrote:

"iedy;c-16710464" wrote:
@Seera1024 Ultimate Collection it is

It's not really patched with all patches. Some things about the combined packs it uses causes old bugs to reappear. MATY's has a fix for that.

I haven't noticed other skills being learned faster by the few Sims that I do have learn Physiology.

I've got the Ultimate Collection installed and I do not have the MATY hack that prevented that bug on my system. I rarely have Sims learn Physiology, so I never had a reason to download the fix.

But I ran an experiment to see if they did break it again.

I loaded up 2 Sims who both had learned no skills and were on the same lot. Had one learn Physiology. Had them both start skilling body at the same time to make sure it was working properly - the control. The Sim who learned Physiology was learning body faster.

Then had both start learning cooking at the same time. Both learning at the same pace.

Then just to make sure I didn't forget about having the MATY fix, I yanked my entire CC folder out. Deleted groups and accessory cache files to be sure all mod remnants removed. Repeated the test. It was hilarious seeing the outfits and hairs the game put my Sims in.

Same thing happened, the body was learned faster by only the Sim who learned Physiology and the cooking was learned at the same rate by both Sims.

So the UC did not undo the Physiology skill gain glitch.

Do you have any mods installed @iedy ?

If body skill was learned faster with all mods out of game etc. doesn't that mean yes, TS2UC doesn't have the patch for it? It would seem so. But as far as learning logic faster etc. I think more serious Sims or is it more playful Sims can learn faster than others? I know all my Sims can learn the logic skill pretty fast and always have. It's why I hate buying a chess table for every house if they need a few for a career etc. They are so attracted to it, all of them use it if I have one and all of them are just about maxed out most of the time, unless I get rid of it. Didn't FT influence how fast a Sim could learn somthing if that's part of their preferred hobby? Like games might influence logic? Or cooking enthusiam influence how fast they learn? I never liked FT so I rarely have my Sims do anything that helps build their redundant hobbies.

Physiology if working right only boosts the skill gain of the Body skill. Because you know more of how the body works. EA goofed initially and had it affect the skill gain rate of all skills and not just the Body skill.

I had forgotten about personality points affecting the Body skill gain, but in an unmodded game the skill gain boost from just one Sim being active and the other not should not cause the difference to look like this - the one on the left gained the 1st skill level as I cancelled the interaction, the one on the right still had a body skill of 0:

https://imgur.com/0812Ek8.jpg

None of them got the pop up that Fitness or the one that learning cooking raises was their preferred hobby so if that causes it it's not skewing things here.

And I can't find anything that says how much faster active Sims learn Body and how much slower lazy Sims learn body. I will note that in my testing my active Sim is the one who learned Physiology.

I'm headed to go get lunch and once I'm back with it, I'll repeat my test with 2 Sims who have the same Active/Lazy personality points.

I reread their post and it seems they are saying their Sims are learning body skill too fast with the sphere and pool. Not anything else? It would help if they would come back and answer if their Sim had learned the physiology skills first, then no testing would be necessary. We would know why, because TS2UC doesn't contain the fix for that.

I proved yesterday that the UC has the fix for it. If the fix was not in place, I would have had the skill rate increase with the cooking skill and mechanical skill. Physiology is supposed to raise the skill learning rate of body only. I pulled my mods during testing so there was no mod influence in the final results.

It would also be helpful if they let us know if they have any mods.

I hate to dispute you, but the bug only involved the body skill. ETA: Which you proved yes, the body skill increased when you removed your mods etc. So, that means yes, TS2UC doesn't have the fix. It (the bug) never affected cooking or anything else. The person who asked the question the other day, said pool and sphere (not any other skill).

ETA: If they have a mod affecting other skills then no doubt it is the one over on MTS to increase skill building.

"Tayra;c-16714261" wrote:
@Seera1024 I was watching a Sims 2 Open for Business video on YouTube and one of their employees had passed out in their store and stayed their passed out for a few days and they could not interact with them at all. Somehow the game eventually fixed itself and they finally reset in the game.

If the Sim was so tired they fell asleep, then no you can't interact with them. That's why you send them home early or close the store and send everyone home. Once their plumbbob turns yellow, there is no point in givng them a break. It never worked, they don't fill their needs so it's best to go ahead and send them home early. ETA: Once they pass out, they may not have been able to get up because of something blocking them. ETA: It's my opinion OFB was much better but many things changed (like not filling needs while on break) when they added the later EPs starting with BV, and especially FT.