Seriously, this is bugging me more and more lately. No matter what instructions are followed (and most are pretty much the same), people seem to have issues. And before you respond, let me tell you what I'm seeing in these threads and post.Issue 1. People simply do not read! Why is that? Why do people not read all the information about the mod before they try to install it? Most times the answer is right in front of their face and they don't see it. Do you simply skip down the "the mod" and download without reading anything about it? The documentation on both NRaas Industries and MTS is readily available. Issue 2. People do not know how "their" computers work?You spent all that money on it, then why haven't you read the manual? On newer purchase they straight up give you a basics tutorial. And all of them come with a help feature. DEP, how to update your graphics drivers, the applications installed and how they work, etc... it's all in there. Why don't people take the time to learn about something they've spend their hard earned money on? And please don't give me that "I'm not tech savvy line" it's old.Issue 3. Pure laziness. Not just for this but in general. (Absolute pet peeve of mine)There are certain simmers who fall under this category and I will not contribute to their laziness by helping them. I just absolutely refuse to help someone that will not help themselves. In fact, there is one simmer (not naming) who has nearly 1400 topics and 95% of them are questions. I've been here since May 2009 and have less than 100 topics.http://llnw.thesims3.com/images/dots_ver700777.gifNow I don't mind helping people in fact I rather enjoy it. But it's hard to help someone if they haven't done what is listed in issues 1 & 2. And as of late, all that's being said is that it's hard or I don't understand without saying really what it is they don't understand.In my guides, I try to provide the information you need not only to install but additional info so you don't hose up your games. As well as a checklist of what you need to do to unmodify your games whenever there is a patch/update. After all this time and this far into the sims 3 series, I still can't believe that simmers still forget to remove their mods and patch/update anyway. However, I will not dumb it down (for lack of a better term) to the point where things are missed or the interpretation of what's being presented is changed. So what's the deal? I'd really like to have some feedback.

I remember when you helped me install CC/Mods your directions were pretty straight foward and simple. Thanks to you I've never had any issues with cc or mods. I don't know why its so hard for some people

I thought it would be... but I followed your steps the first time I did and realized how easy it is to install mods. I could easily do it myself now.

Jamesmc2012 wrote:It's not. :P Edit: Alright, I'll play Devil's advocate a little bit here. I first installed mods about a week and a half ago and it took me a good hour and a half. This was mostly due to my own misunderstanding of how to navigate my computer so I had to Google a bunch of stuff and I got distracted and started learning about how I could do things easier. My problem is, personally, that I love taking in new information so I often get distracted by things and have an information overload problem. I digress. I did finally get the mods installed. The only difficulty was, as I said, learning the terms that were mentioned on the "How to Install" page at mod the sims. Is it hard? Not at ALL now that I know. But, I can't help feeling we're a bit biased because we're aware of how it's done. Hindsight bias, they call it. We can't really criticize other people for being lost because we have knowledge they don't. Now, I can criticize people for being, as you put it, lazy. I'd go so far as to say that some people are willingly stupid. The information is not hidden in deep, dark passageways. The internet is accessible to all here (I'm assuming since this is an online forum) and you can find all sorts of websites that will help you learn about your computer and the best way to work it. I am by no means a computer person, but in a technologically charged world such as the one we live in, I can no longer afford to blindly bump into walls while being led by the hand of someone who understands the scary world of computers. I think it's people's duty to try and do some learnin' on this subject. Phew, I said more than I thought I was going to say. There's my 2 cents worth :lol: I love you for posting this. :mrgreen: However, it's not mine nor anyone else's responsibility to make one understand how something they purchased works. And the information is out there but one has to be willing to learn. The problem is when people take their inability to learn out on others. It's always someone else's fault that they don't get it. Well good for you and I appreciate you editing your comment. :wink:

I can think of two reasons:1. People look at the long instructions and get scared by it (mine in my German blog are rather long too). They don't realize you give them every single step in much detail.Maybe a little 4-Step overview for those who know their computer in-and-out at the beginning can help with those2. People see all the issues people are having and get scared to try themselves.

Brain Glaze. :wink: That mysterious substance that coats the brain whenever something appears to be complicated. It inhibits the firing of random synapses.

Tell me why "you" think it's so hard to install mods/cc?

JoyfulNoise12
13 years ago
I remember when you helped me install CC/Mods your directions were pretty straight foward and simple. Thanks to you I've never had any issues with cc or mods. I don't know why its so hard for some people
Callum9432
13 years ago
I thought it would be... but I followed your steps the first time I did and realized how easy it is to install mods. I could easily do it myself now.
blunote00
13 years ago
Jamesmc2012 wrote:
It's not. :P

Edit: Alright, I'll play Devil's advocate a little bit here. I first installed mods about a week and a half ago and it took me a good hour and a half. This was mostly due to my own misunderstanding of how to navigate my computer so I had to Google a bunch of stuff and I got distracted and started learning about how I could do things easier. My problem is, personally, that I love taking in new information so I often get distracted by things and have an information overload problem. I digress.

I did finally get the mods installed. The only difficulty was, as I said, learning the terms that were mentioned on the "How to Install" page at mod the sims. Is it hard? Not at ALL now that I know. But, I can't help feeling we're a bit biased because we're aware of how it's done. Hindsight bias, they call it. We can't really criticize other people for being lost because we have knowledge they don't. Now, I can criticize people for being, as you put it, lazy. I'd go so far as to say that some people are willingly stupid. The information is not hidden in deep, dark passageways. The internet is accessible to all here (I'm assuming since this is an online forum) and you can find all sorts of websites that will help you learn about your computer and the best way to work it.

I am by no means a computer person, but in a technologically charged world such as the one we live in, I can no longer afford to blindly bump into walls while being led by the hand of someone who understands the scary world of computers. I think it's people's duty to try and do some learnin' on this subject.

Phew, I said more than I thought I was going to say. There's my 2 cents worth :lol:

I love you for posting this. :mrgreen: However, it's not mine nor anyone else's responsibility to make one understand how something they purchased works. And the information is out there but one has to be willing to learn. The problem is when people take their inability to learn out on others. It's always someone else's fault that they don't get it. Well good for you and I appreciate you editing your comment. :wink:
crinrict
Hero+
13 years ago
I can think of two reasons:

1. People look at the long instructions and get scared by it (mine in my German blog are rather long too). They don't realize you give them every single step in much detail.

Maybe a little 4-Step overview for those who know their computer in-and-out at the beginning can help with those

2. People see all the issues people are having and get scared to try themselves.
ck213
Seasoned Scout
13 years ago
Brain Glaze. :wink:

That mysterious substance that coats the brain whenever something appears to be complicated. It inhibits the firing of random synapses.
blunote00
13 years ago
chococat9 wrote:
I don't have any problems with it. I think there's just a lot of people that aren't computer savvy and would literally need someone to go to their house and do it for them. There's also people in WoW like that. I'll explain 800 times how to install an addon and provide links to get it and they just never understand.

But whose fault is it that they aren't computer savvy? Never said one had to be but at least know the basics. Do you know I spent an entire week (not sim time) on this forum trying to get someone to open their control panel? Seriously.
Saide7
13 years ago
You are a very patient person Blunote - and you are always there answering questions. I've gained something from your posts helping others many times.

But you are correct:

You give detailed enough instructions. And one should NEVER do anything if they don't understand it first. NEVER should they come back on you when things go awry.

There are many places to get information. One needs only to read ALL the instructions they can find until they DO understand.

At least that is how I do things.

And if in doubt, don't do it! lol
blunote00
13 years ago
Jamesmc2012 wrote:
I've always known you to be a patient and helpful person so I don't blame you for being a little frustrated when your "students" refuse to do their homework and learn for themselves. ;)

Anyone who has ever been taught by me online or irl should know never to step up without having their homework done. That's when you really should be scared. :shock:

crinrict wrote:
I can think of two reasons:

1. People look at the long instructions and get scared by it (mine in my German blog are rather long too). They don't realize you give them every single step in much detail.

Maybe a little 4-Step overview for those who know their computer in-and-out at the beginning can help with those

2. People see all the issues people are having and get scared to try themselves.

I realized that some do know their computers better and the short version of the How to Install is on all the NRass mods. But it also includes the link to the more detailed version here on the officials.

Saide7 wrote:
Well, for me, I am 60 years old, and it takes me a little to understand. I have to read things many times to get a grasp of not only the immediate task I am doing, but also how to maintain it in the future. I want to be sure I'll know how to resolve any issues that might arise in the future.

It's not always that someone is lazy - sometimes it's just someone is OLD, lol.

I have recently had to install an upgraded new video card and power supply all by myself, so I am getting there.

That's fantastic!

lilhunny wrote:
its not

if youre going to help people of course theres going to be the few who know nothing about computers

Then the last thing they should be doing is installing mods/cc.
chococat9
13 years ago
blunote00 wrote:
chococat9 wrote:
I don't have any problems with it. I think there's just a lot of people that aren't computer savvy and would literally need someone to go to their house and do it for them. There's also people in WoW like that. I'll explain 800 times how to install an addon and provide links to get it and they just never understand.

But whose fault is it that they aren't computer savvy? Never said one had to be but at least know the basics. Do you know I spent an entire week (not sim time) on this forum trying to get someone to open their control panel? Seriously.

You have more patience than me. Personally, I feel that if gaming is going to be your hobby then you should become familiar with that thing you're playing games on. I know when I first wanted to try installing mods, i didn't understand it. But I read and read and read until I did and then tried it out myself and got it to work. I never came here and expected someone to hold my hand and walk me through it...but that's just me.

I mean, it's great that there's people like you putting guides together and making everything easy to find in one place.
blunote00
13 years ago
chococat9 wrote:
blunote00 wrote:
chococat9 wrote:
I don't have any problems with it. I think there's just a lot of people that aren't computer savvy and would literally need someone to go to their house and do it for them. There's also people in WoW like that. I'll explain 800 times how to install an addon and provide links to get it and they just never understand.

But whose fault is it that they aren't computer savvy? Never said one had to be but at least know the basics. Do you know I spent an entire week (not sim time) on this forum trying to get someone to open their control panel? Seriously.

You have more patience than me. Personally, I feel that if gaming is going to be your hobby then you should become familiar with that thing you're playing games on. I know when I first wanted to try installing mods, i didn't understand it. But I read and read and read until I did and then tried it out myself and got it to work. I never came here and expected someone to hold my hand and walk me through it...but that's just me.

I mean, it's great that there's people like you putting guides together and making everything easy to find in one place.

Yes it's true I do have a lot of patience, but I have my kids to thank for that. :lol: And it's great when people learn the things that I've taught them and I see them take off, I do notice. I prefer not to hold someone's hand forever.

I have stated before my story is similar. My education was in Aeronautical Engineering. Lot of good that does me living in Nebraska. :? I didn't learn anything about computer until much later. I used to wait for my mate to come home from work (we worked different shifts), and log me out to the internet so I could play backgammon online. Could you imagine where I'd be if I was still waiting for him to do that? :shock: Now I know more than him and have an IT job I love. Most of the computer knowledge I gained was self taught, then those actual classes came later. It's never too late to learn.

EDIT: arrrghh typos!