:!: Edit to highlight two VERY easy fixes:Remove the house the medina family lives in. Remove the house the Amigos live in.You can move the sims in both families to other houses, they are ok. :!: :!: :!: Do NOT delete these premade simmies! Move them all in other houses, but do NOT DELETE :!: :!: If your lag is the result of sims getting stuck this should improve things a lot. Maybe then the rest of the thread will help solving the last little laggy bits ;) :mrgreen: Happy Simming :mrgreen: Original post:I decided to give it a try:I redid all houses in IP.Removed some of the hideous modern ones (like the one the alto's (?) live in) and some of the houseboats.I fixed front doors and lot fronts of all the lots. ( alot of the the houses had their front door set inside the house! (example the house where the collins live and the adobe abode)In a lot of the houses, the toilets were in front of the showers/baths, so they were unroutable. (the houseboat where rubisel ichtaca lives)I also put some rocks where al the npc's got stuck near the premium port.It took me about 3 reallife days! (am not a great builder), but in my modfree new game there is hardly any lag anymore. Only when the game is building the festival lot it stalls a bit.* makes happy dance *Try it, it really did wonders for my game!edit:I tested in the rebuilt town for about three simweeks.I thinks the lag would've started in that time :) but it didn't.and I'm still on patch 1.65, if it matters.

edit:I forgot the most important fix of all! The Amigos!They live in the Spirit of the sea house, Sandy beach, Surf island. I really do want to know what spirits the designer of that house was on ;) I want that! It's probably very good :) Just don't go and create stuff for my game when you've used it, ok?Move the Amigo's out of their house and bulldose it. In my game every single sim that wanted to leave the island got stuck under their house and walked around there for hours!SimplySimazing: I did plop a few rocks on top of each other.So maybe your rock wasn't big enough?The islands have not been unlocked yet :) Now that you mention it ;) :mrgreen:I am REALLY glad I did this :)I've saved the fixed-housing-town in a separate folder. I'm really not planning on doing this every time I move my family to a fresh town :)I still feel stupid not taking notes, but there is at least one little mistake in nearly every house, so you'll have to open them all anyway. Check stairs, front doors, bathrooms, oddly placed mailboxes, ditto statues * and also arches leading to nowhere. I moved all the toddler items to the first floor ( I don't know if toddlers still give routing errors on top of stairs?) I also put an all-in-one-shower in every house. I like my simmies clean :mrgreen: (*there's this one boat with a lot of underwater decor. I moved it all to the roof ;) then put it back where there is at least two tiles around them)I think the only house I've left untouched is that Surf Shack (?) on that little Island I've now added the film lot,a gypsie caravanChanged the bars into disco (paradise pub) and local watering hole (gabriella's ?)A hangout with my rollercoasterI've deleted the school/stadium to replace it with separate versions (the very small school from aurora skies -I think- on the small lot where the garden was in town center. The Colisseum on the original school lot)This all seems to be running great ;) (knocks on wood)I'll let you know if I find out more (and will keep notes this time ;) ) Promised!

And now i find this: :wink: http://www.modthesims.info/showthread.php?t=506537&c=0&ht=&page=2&pp=25#startcommentGood list I think, by babele 44

Alessar:Please let us know if it also worked for you?I'll update my progress for you :mrgreen: Last night I went ingame and added my legacy family (they've got loads of stuff: about a hundred of all veggies/herbs/fruits, a truckload of potions, all the underwaterstuff, special seeds, cut and uncut stones and metals, 23 highschool diploma's (two for each generation and one for gramps :-) ) a lot of different awards for highschool, paintings, etc etc)I thought this would generate at least a small stuttering. :mrgreen: Nothing happened !!! :mrgreen: Then I decided to try NRAAS SP... :mrgreen: 8) and my game is still smooth 8) :mrgreen:I'm back in game, second week in this town.If something weird happens I'll let you all know :!:

treintrien wrote:Alessar:Please let us know if it also worked for you?So far, all I have done is bulldozed the Medina and Amigos houses. That alone has stopped about 35-40% of my freezeups. I recommend everyone do at least that, it's just 2 houses. I haven't done any more tinkering because I have my first game in play and I'm still kind of discovering the world and how gameplay and boats all work, and I left story progression on so plenty of things have changed from the baseline already. Before I start a second play I'll do a massive repair of the world - or try downloading the fixed version I read someone on Mod the Sims has made.I think I may fiddle with just a couple more lots or houseboats before then just to see if there are noticeable incremental changes.

OK: small update:Still running smooth.I found that placing small trees from IP right on the spot Simmies get stuck near the ports seems to stop Simmies getting stuck there. For decor I placed some small rocks around the base of the trees/bushes.I added some family houses to make sure there's enough room for everyone. Then I found out the front door options were gone :shock: Seems that option is only available in an unplayed town.Still testing on this one.Happy simming everyone!

Hardly any lag: rebuilt ALL the houses in IP! worked for 14 of us so far ;) 2 negative

treintrien
11 years ago
@alanmichael1
The worst thing with the rubisel houseboat was the port: that's the spot I had to put the rocks to avoid townies getting stuck.

There's one other port with rocks that are too close to the port exit stairs.

(Why didn't I make notes to help you all? Facepalm!)
iAMciane
Seasoned Newcomer
11 years ago
It's good to know that simple things make a big difference.
LatteCrab
11 years ago
I miss playing in IP...but when I tried to use rocks to block areas, they went through part of it anyway, & were still stuck! What could have possibly gone wrong? :(
Also, did you have lag from the uncharted islands? IF I was facing the heavy fog, it caused lag...I had to use the cheat to unlock the islands. But I want to be able to play the normal way - by unlocking them myself, WITHOUT the cheat. :?

THANKS for the tips about remaking the world! :mrgreen:
Honestly, I wouldn't have known about some of those things causing the lag issues! :oops:
We shouldn't have to since it wasn't handed to us free... :roll:
but at this point, I'm not surprised.
And having paid full price for this game, as well as most the other ones, makes it a bigger insult. :evil:
5a6391fd1f7b5ad
11 years ago
treintrien wrote:

I've saved the fixed-housing-town in a separate folder. I'm really not planning on doing this every time I move my family to a fresh town :)

YAY, good for you Treintrien!! :D I have no idea how one goes about uploading a save file for a world, or how anybody else goes about installing a save file, but I hope that you would consider figuring it out and uploading yours. It would help a lot of people! :D

At first I had no lag, and then after shutting down the game for the first time and then restarting it, whoa did I have lag. But Errortrap and Overwatch removed all lag for me. Knowing that other people with slower machines weren't helped enough by those mods to make the game playable for them, I decided to make a list of all the places which trapped sims and caused routing issues. But Portrait Panel and MasterController (more NRass mods) both caused issues for me regardless of which versions I tried so I had to take them out.

(I was going to use either one of those mods to locate the stuck sim on the map, as the notifications popped up.)

The Medina(spelling) couple were stuck inside their own home, for instance! Seems like there just isn't enough room around all the furniture in any of the lots, and there are too many trees and bushes, and nooks and crannies elsewhere on the map and sims keep getting stuck. On a faster machine with mods, those routing failures aren't noticeable, but on a slower machine, all that plus the mountains etc are going to decrease performance. EA tends to avoid mountains especially mountains with lots of terrain-elevation-changes in the middle of a map, precisely because they do tend to cause problems for slower machines. The mountains in the distance, aren't made the same way, they are actually one large "object" and they don't require much rendering power.
fillefilip
11 years ago
I do not have the time or passion to rebuild the whole Isla Paradiso, but I did this:

* discoverAllunchartedislands cheat, deletes most of the laggy fog
* installed the fixed version of Isla Paradiso: http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=514909
* deleted all boats, placed the residents in other houses and deleted every boat-platform there was.
* twallans overwatch

I mean, it's still a bit laggy but no way near it was before, it's playable.
5a6391fd1f7b5ad
11 years ago
So last night I watched my sims... :D And the Medina house? omg, just destroy it. It's much worse than the Ichtaca castle in my game, I get a notification about them several times during each game-play session. When the sims arrive at the house, they can only go upstairs. In order to get to the first floor, they either have to go upstairs and then down again, or they have to walk all the way around the outside of the house.

I strongly suspect EA had a new person who built all the houses. Normally they make great houses, interesting AND playable, not build things which will trap your sims.

Location on the map. The Medina house is near the science building and radio tower.
5a6391fd1f7b5ad
11 years ago
MoonriseKingdom wrote:
I do not have the time or passion to rebuild the whole Isla Paradiso, but I did this:

* discoverAllunchartedislands cheat, deletes most of the laggy fog
* installed the fixed version of Isla Paradiso: http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=514909
* deleted all boats, placed the residents in other houses and deleted every boat-platform there was.
* twallans overwatch

I mean, it's still a bit laggy but no way near it was before, it's playable.

My castle doesn't look like that, somehow or another EA gave me a different version. My version of the castle only has one archway. Will go into the game in a bit and check to see if the front door is already set as the front door.
treintrien
11 years ago
Stickykisses:
That's one of the houses I completely destroyed, the medina one.

I remembered in the errortrap files for my modded games that one did turn up quite a lot.

So I'm guessing you are smart enough to keep notes :mrgreen:
Thanks for that!

I playtested the red castle yesterday:
it did seem to have a problem: kids sink into the porch occasionally. Didn't really seem to affect gameplay.

Did any of this help you with the lag, though?
bailey_joe
11 years ago
Boy am I so glad I checked this subject out. Just removing those few places have made my game run like its been oiled. lol

Thank you so much.

I plan on trying that out at Brideport too. My other most laggie town.

Thanks treintrien and other simmers for the great advice. Now I can put my download and mod folders back. :wink:
treintrien
11 years ago
My Pleasure :lol:

(Feels like I sold a cookie for girl scouts :mrgreen: )

I am so glad these small tweeks also help your game :!:

I've been slowly rebuilding IP to my liking.
Some things I noticed:
A wee bit of lag returned on placing a supernatural hangout.
I'm guessing that's because it closes at the time the festival is set (3 am). Can anyone confirm this?

Otherwise it must have something to do with either the tractor or the ballet barre/ dancefloor. I added these three in one go and then it started.

Also full moon causes a small stutter ( am playtesting 4 witches, maybe I'm overdoing things again :D ).

Animals are stuck on islands. Do they return home by themselve?

Thanks again for help!