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simvasion
Hero
5 years ago
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[FIXED] [ECO] NAPs from all neighbourhoods are applied to visiting NPCs

Product: The Sims 4 Platform:PC Which language are you playing the game in? English How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%) What is your current game version number? 1.63.134.1020 Wha...
  • crinrict's avatar
    crinrict
    5 years ago
    ● NPC Sims will no longer follow enacted policies in their home neighborhood if Sims travel to another neighborhood or world before the voting period ends.

    Fixed in Patch 1.65.70/ 1.29

    If you're still experiencing this issue, please create a new thread.

    I will leave all the threads listed in post 2 open for now to see how that goes.

    Your feedback there is appreciated.

Dreadist's avatar
Dreadist
5 years ago
@lostinmalloc wrote:

Is there at the moment and confirmed workaround through cheats (not mods) to fully remove the hidden traits that couples with disabling NPC voting?

Disable NPC Voting on options under eco life, you have two options start a new save and immediately turn off npc voting off or as someone suggested you can enact the problem nap then repeal on all neighborhoods by the mailbox if you have testingcheats on but I haven't tested it. The issue lies with them getting a hidden trait with the NAP when they go to a neighborhood that has a NAP so over time they become "infected" with constant hidden traits which makes em do the the problematic issues we are having so even saving them to the gallery and bringing them back brings that problem back. @lostinmalloc Hope that's the answer your looking for..

Raynn0124's avatar
Raynn0124
5 years ago

@Dreadist @lostinmalloc Keep in mind, the hidden traits are only applied/removed to Sims that are currently on the active lot (Played/Favourite or not; everyone but the active household.  Also includes those walking around the neighbourhood, not just visitors to the house).  The traits get "stuck" to all Sims in the area when you switch households.  Repealing removes the trait immediately, but only from Sims actually loaded in the area.  It only takes a couple of seconds to enact/repeal, but you do need to invite over any particular Sims that you want to fix.  With NPC voting turned off (and making sure to repeal/not-enact any disruptive NAPs - in every neighbourhood with played households), it shouldn't take too much effort to clean up a save (although depending on your thoroughness, random townies may remain weird until you notice them).

There's also the sledgehammer approach of disabling the EP, saving without it, then re-enabling it.  That'll destroy pretty much everything you've done with anything from the pack though, and (if you're like me, and played with the shiny new thing a lot) probably take even longer to put everything back together - but it will clear the hidden traits en-masse (oddly though, it won't clear any active NAPs, so repeal/disable those first regardless).

  • simvasion's avatar
    simvasion
    Hero
    5 years ago

    I keep seeing people saying it's "traits" that are the cause, but it's actually the commodities that get stuck and those are added by buffs, not traits.

    If you want a more surgical targeted workaround, there is a cheat that will remove them from affected sims. Always make sure to have backed up your save before using.

    • stats.remove_stat commodity_civic_policy_effect_NPCAutonomy_OldDays
    • stats.remove_stat commodity_civic_policy_effect_NPCAutonomy_FreeLove
    • stats.remove_stat commodity_civic_policy_effect_NPCAutonomy_Aggression
    • stats.remove_stat commodity_civic_policy_effect_NPCAutonomy_CommunalOwnership
    • stats.remove_stat commodity_civic_policy_effect_NPCAutonomy_CreativeArts
    • stats.remove_stat commodity_civic_policy_effect_NPCAutonomy_FunCommunity
    • stats.remove_stat commodity_civic_policy_effect_NPCAutonomy_HomeCooking
    • stats.remove_stat commodity_civic_policy_effect_NPCAutonomy_JuicedCommunity
    • stats.remove_stat commodity_civic_policy_effect_NPCAutonomy_MusicArts
    • stats.remove_stat commodity_civic_policy_effect_NPCAutonomy_SelfCare
    • stats.remove_stat commodity_civic_policy_effect_NPCAutonomy_SelfSufficient
    • stats.remove_stat commodity_civic_policy_effect_NPCAutonomy_TechnologicalProgress

    There's versions for each NAP. Those cheats will remove the autonomous NAP triggers from sims, if they have somehow managed to become stuck on the sim. It's what I used to fix the first sim I found in my game which was displaying NAP behaviour while I was playing them and now he's fine. The cheats have to be entered manually on each sim though - it's not practical if you have large numbers of sims with the issues.

    This method is only useful if your situation is something like: you have only one sim in your household affected by stuck NAP behvaviour, and it's more convenient to fix that single sim than using other more destructive methods (like saving the household to the library and replacing them with copies that lost all their relationships and skills/spells).

    Unfortunately, you can't use this cheat without TwistedMexi's All Cheats restoration mod, because "stats.remove_stat" is one of the cheats removed from the game in 2018's Seasons update. So people who can't use mods, e.g. console players, will not be able to use this method either.

  • Myhideout's avatar
    Myhideout
    5 years ago
    @simvasion very detailed explains why I couldn't remove them by commands back then but your mods worked fine the game does have some issues they really need to address but either way thank you. worst glitch I have faced in over a week was a child unable to go to school deleted her added back from gallery and was better. just had to cheat back family tree and friendships.

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