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Re: [FIXED] Wants/Fears toggle stops working after travelling

Product: The Sims 4
Platform:PC
Which language are you playing the game in? English
How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
What is your current game version number? 1.90.375.1020
What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? Vampires, Get to Work
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Start from a saved game. If you've disabled Wants & Needs previously, they will still appear over your Sim's portrait despite being disabled. This happens when you start a new game, edit a household in CAS, go to Manage Worlds, or pick up from where you last left off on a given save file.
What happens when the bug occurs? Wants & Needs still appear despite being disabled in Gameplay options. One must re-enable Wants & Needs, hit Apply, then disable and hit Apply again for them to disappear. They stay gone until you go to CAS/Manage Worlds/start from your last save.
What do you expect to see? I expect that Wants & Needs stay gone when I've disabled them. I don't expect to have them re-appear each time I go to CAS/Manage Worlds/start from my last save file. This happens whether or not I've got Custom Content/mods added.
Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? Not now. I've removed them.
Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? Yes
Please describe the patch or change you made. I got the latest patch (August 2nd hotfix for rapid aging/inappropriate family relationships).

I pretty much explained what the problem is. Wants & Needs re-appear above my Sims' portraits even though I've got them disabled. It shows in Game Options > Gameplay that they are disabled, yet they're still there. I have to check "Show Wants & Fears," hit Apply, then disable Wants & Fears and hit Apply again. It's only a temporary fix; if I go to CAS, Manage Worlds, or restart my game/go to the main menu, they show up again as if they're enabled. It's the same thing each time.

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  • donaborisova's avatar
    donaborisova
    Seasoned Newcomer
    3 years ago
    @GreaseBones96 Same for me too. When i tick it on an off and then apply the changes it disappears, but when i go to CAS and go back to the game after that they're still there.
  • ChelleBelle716's avatar
    ChelleBelle716
    Seasoned Veteran
    3 years ago

    I played for a while last night, and the Wants/Fears reappear (despite the setting being toggled off) every single time a household loads.

    It even happened at one point when I was playing two sims from a household who were on vacation in Granite Falls and when I had the remaining household members join the vacation everyone suddenly had Wants/Fears again. That doesn't even generate a loading screen - just loaded the additional sims.

    It's a pretty annoying nuisance to have to keep going in and fixing it over and over again. I hope they can address this sooner than later.

  • tommynocker001's avatar
    tommynocker001
    Seasoned Veteran
    3 years ago

    All of the toggles in the settings are broken. I have 'bust the dust' switched on in pack settings; but I've not seen a single dust bunny appear even once all the way through spring. This is making the asperation 'perfectly pristine' impossible to achieve.

  • andyvkey's avatar
    andyvkey
    3 years ago

    I strongly suspect this is related to the issue that more and more players have where the game will reset back to an earlier time. For some reason, TS4 can no longer retain information properly, to the point where no error messages are generated since the game has just completely lost the plot and has no idea anything problematic has even happened.

  • blueflynnn's avatar
    blueflynnn
    3 years ago

    this is happening to me too, along with all of the "pack settings" for example animal aging, neighbourhood stories and NPC relationship autonomy. Turn it off, then it turns back on if my sim travels or I quit the game. 

  • GreaseBones96's avatar
    GreaseBones96
    New Adventurer
    3 years ago

    3 weeks and they haven't even acknowledged that this is an issue they're actively trying to resolve. I still play my game even with this very inconvenient bug, as annoying as it is to have to re-disable it every time I return from CAS or start my game. But I'm going to say right now that there's no way I'm going to invest in Sims 5 if customers' bug reports are going to be ignored and simple bugs go unfixed. There was nothing wrong with Whims, and I wish they'd never changed the system. It's honestly pretty weak. Wants & Fears is a worse system than Whims was.

  • Jomilej's avatar
    Jomilej
    New Ace
    3 years ago
    @blueflynnn OMG yes, same!! And not just that, traits' effects are also ignored. My sim with the fresh chef trait makes food that spoils when it isn't supposed to do so with that trait, my sim with the unstoppable fame have their fame decaying when they're not supposed to. Lifestyles sometimes appear even if they are disabled in some of my saves.
    It's like the game ignores every settings and systems in the game and don't recognize them anymore. But the most annoying ones are the wants and fears and animal aging
  • Foxley828's avatar
    Foxley828
    Seasoned Scout
    3 years ago

    Same here.  Driving me crazy - I don't want - wants and fears active.  I disable it everytime but it just comes back on again - travelling - going into CAS - relogging.  Everytime I have to go into gameplay click the wants and fears box - apply - then click the wants and fears box off again - then hit apply.  They disappear until I do one of the above.  It's really annoying and spoils my gameplay having to keep interupting it to click these off!

  • Helsiva's avatar
    Helsiva
    3 years ago

    I empathize fully. The ‘Fears’ glitch has made gameplay very unpleasant. 

  • elizabeth2929's avatar
    elizabeth2929
    3 years ago

    Mine toggles on everytime I reload as well. But another part of the glitch I'm struggling with the most is when it is off my sims still gets scared of the dark (even when the wants and fears are toggled off), but now my sim gets "scared of the dark" during the day, outside all the time. So he's essentially scared all the time and can't do anything cause he's to scared. 

  • t00sa's avatar
    t00sa
    New Adventurer
    3 years ago
    @elizabeth2929 This bug is the worst. Because of the broken toggle, even sims in inactive households can develop fears. I like playing with multiple different households in a single save and switching between them when I play. It gets really tiring to keep track of who has a fear and who doesn't...

    The best you can do in the sims rn, is just building or creating sims
  • kissykaede's avatar
    kissykaede
    Seasoned Traveler
    3 years ago

    EA plays whack-a-mole with game-breaking bugs and expects us to just "hope the next update fixes it!" ever since this game came out. This is never going to change. EA will continue stringing us along until The Sims 5 comes out and then they will abandon this game as a broken buggy mess just like they did with The Sims 3. You are all better off uninstalling this game and never thinking about it again; that's what I'll be doing. Please do yourselves a favor and do not play the games-as-a-service Sims 5, it will be a giant scam and will probably be an even buggier mess than this broken game. Somebody else needs to pick up the gauntlet of dollhouse life simulator because this series has been a non-stop trainwreck and dumpster fire for well over a decade. I think even Paradox could do it better than EA.

  • HeLoves's avatar
    HeLoves
    3 years ago

    Agreed. I’m just waiting for Paralives to come out at this point. As soon as it does I’ll be jumping ship because sims has become more stress than de-stress now.

  • valohim666's avatar
    valohim666
    3 years ago

    @kissykaede wrote:

    EA plays whack-a-mole with game-breaking bugs and expects us to just "hope the next update fixes it!" ever since this game came out. This is never going to change. EA will continue stringing us along until The Sims 5 comes out and then they will abandon this game as a broken buggy mess just like they did with The Sims 3. You are all better off uninstalling this game and never thinking about it again; that's what I'll be doing. Please do yourselves a favor and do not play the games-as-a-service Sims 5, it will be a giant scam and will probably be an even buggier mess than this broken game. Somebody else needs to pick up the gauntlet of dollhouse life simulator because this series has been a non-stop trainwreck and dumpster fire for well over a decade. I think even Paradox could do it better than EA.


    I completely agree with you, and while I could very easily go into a rant on what I think of EA and their games I know most simply don't care so I won't bother. Too many people just tolerate this broken nonsense anyway, so they won't even see my point.

  • HawnaKitty's avatar
    HawnaKitty
    New Ace
    3 years ago
    @t00sa The worse bug is the plant and flower bug in Seasons. This one is irritating though
  • t00sa's avatar
    t00sa
    New Adventurer
    3 years ago
    @HawnaKitty Well, what is worst would depend on the player. I don't play with plants/gardens much, and also I don't know about this bug too much (I'll google later) and also also haven't played the sims in quite a while bc of this bug and the curved platform bug...

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