An Option to Set Gender Preference in CAS

I don't get the fuss over this idea. It doesnt have to be toggles.

The system already exists, it is just invisible to us. Make it visible and let us set a starting point in CAS.

It is no different from the fitness and fat sliders. You set a starting point and your sim either maintains or deviates from that starting point depending on your gameplay choices. It's exactly the same thing. I find it unrealistic that everyone starts smack dab in the middle of bisexuality, the same way that I would find it strange if we couldnt set starting weights.

I agree with the OP. This is a good suggestion for those of us who spend a lot of time creating detailed backstories for our sims.

"Dannydanbo;c-16671059" wrote:
We can't toggle people in real life, why limit our sims?

Because, unlike in a game, I don't have control over people in real life.

"Dannydanbo;c-16671643" wrote:
All I read in this form is about wanting the game to be "realistic" so it doesn't break everyone's "immersion" of realism.
What happens to your story telling when you want your straight sim to have a gay affair? That happens in real life more often than people want to admit.
P.S. 100% straight doesn't exist. There is no absolute guarantee.

But... I don't think it's unrealistic to want a slider because, in real life, for example, you wouldn't catch me flirting with a girl. So it doesn't seem weird for a sim to have set definitions on what they like, either. I'm 100% not straight and I don't expect myself to sway back onto the straight side just because in real life, unlike the sims, not everyone is bi.

Plus, it wouldn't be harmful if you as the player can override the settings and flirt with whomever you choose; it's just so that sims don't start flirting with both genders randomly like it usually happens.

"Shinzen;c-16675013" wrote:
But... I don't think it's unrealistic to want a slider because, in real life, for example, you wouldn't catch me flirting with a girl.

How odd.
Everyone I know will flirt with girls. It doesn't matter if they're gay, straight, ace... they're all human, and a bit of flirtation makes people feel good. Honestly, in my experience, gay guys are the worst. All the ones I know will flirt with anything that has a pulse.
However, straight guys and gay girls don't tend to flirt with guys.

Flirting doesn't always have to mean that you wanna woohoo, it can be a friendly interaction. The best people to flirt with are old ladies, I sure as heck don't want any woohoo there, but it's a heck of a lot of fun.

Maybe it's an Aussie thing, maybe we're just a flirty bunch.

"Movotti;c-16675174" wrote:

"Shinzen;c-16675013" wrote:
But... I don't think it's unrealistic to want a slider because, in real life, for example, you wouldn't catch me flirting with a girl.

How odd.
Everyone I know will flirt with girls. It doesn't matter if they're gay, straight, ace... they're all human, and a bit of flirtation makes people feel good. Honestly, in my experience, gay guys are the worst. All the ones I know will flirt with anything that has a pulse.
However, straight guys and gay girls don't tend to flirt with guys.

Flirting doesn't always have to mean that you wanna woohoo, it can be a friendly interaction. The best people to flirt with are old ladies, I sure as heck don't want any woohoo there, but it's a heck of a lot of fun.

Maybe it's an Aussie thing, maybe we're just a flirty bunch.

I guess it is just cultural thing. There's a big differentiation in my mind between friendly compliments and jokes to be friendly versus flirting; where I am located, flirting is strictly romantic and is done to kind of show you're attracted to them a bit and want to get to know them better in a "we could go out for a drink/date sometime" type of way. I dunno what the gay guys are like in Australia, but I (a Canadian) would feel seriously uncomfortable flirting with a girl, haha.

"Sigzy05;c-16673994" wrote:
I don't see the necessity of such thing in my game.

The Sims is already open to player choice, I don't think a sexuality slider or button or whatever, makes any sense. If a sim flirts with a male or female in the game the sim will get a preference for that gender it's always been like this in previous games.

I disagree slightly. My male sim was happily married to a female, got lots of whims to woohoo with her, kiss her etc. Was like that for a long time. Long enough to have children with her.

Then one day he went to the Bluffs with his in laws. His wife was there but wasn’t near him. He got the flirty moodlet from being near the pool (really?) Now who he did he direct his all of a sudden romantic desires too? His wife?

No.

My sim autonomously hit on his father in law. His married father in law at that. Right in front of his mother in law. My sim is not gay nor had shown any affection towards any Male before. I don’t have mods or cc. It’s like once in the flirty mood sims simply don’t care who their target is, it’s just the closet person. (As was the case in my scenario above)

In the sims 2 however you had to work very hard to unset the gender preference once you set it. My Male sim wouldn’t hit on another man autonomously if his targets had always been female. It wasn’t impossible to change it but your sim wouldn’t all of a sudden change their preferences unless the player intervened.

"MaggieMarley;c-16677916" wrote:
Flirting is something you do with someone you are interested in romantically (unless I have my definition of flirting wrong, or am hanging out with the wrong people!). Otherwise, you’d be seen as leading people on.

I see flirting as something you do for fun. If you're interested in someone, you hit on them, don't waste time flirting, or they might mistake it for you just being nice! You gotta be blatant when you're interested, because most people are oblivious, even if they're into you. I know a couple who flirted for months before one of them got frustrated, grabbed the other and snogged them, and the other finally got the hint. They've been a couple for years now, even have a sprog. Flirtation wasn't getting them there.

You don’t flirt with platonic friends, but you might compliment them/joke or banter with them.

Flirtation is a form of banter, and I do it with platonic friends.

I'm going to second this request. This would allow players to control more of their game and stop some affairs the player had no intention of pursuing. I can say from experience in the game I expected the Sims in this game to behave as they did in other games. If I played them as straight I expected them to stay straight. If played as gay I expected them to stay gay. If I played them as never actually wanting to be with anyone at all, they stayed that way. It is one reason I may have a little more favortism about the older games than I do this one.

I play characters and I expect the game to do what I tell it to do. Yes, there can be an event that may throw a monkey wrench into my well laid plans, but not when it comes to sexual preference. That really does break the immersion. It's our games we should be able to say who is going to be involved and who is not. We may not be able to say who gets sick etc. however, we should be able (as gods) to say who is going to be involved.

It has nothing to do with a challenge or reality or anything else anyone wants to throw in here, it has to do with taking away the control the past games gave the player by setting that preference the first time a Sim checks out another Sim or flirts. That became their preference, and I wish this game would return to standards that keep players in control.

"the_greenplumbob;c-16671350" wrote:
My sims never do romantic actions with random strangers autonomously, so what purpose would this serve - I know if my sims are going to gay or straight or anything in-between.

The last time I played (and since day one) these Sims had affairs going on (in my game) with Sims they supposedly had seen out on community lots or open spaces. I've said this many times I guess, the game turned Watson gay though I had planned for him to marry Mary. It happens sometimes right in front of you if they are usually a romantic Sim and get a flirty mood. Or other Sims are flirty it spills over onto your own Sim. It may have been tweaked since the first year of game. However, last time I played it made a Sim of mine (straight) get up from his table at a restaurant and go flirt with another set of Sims (married) to flirt with the husband. In front of his girlfriend and the other guy's wife. I had never played them as bi or gay. It happens quite often if you are a rotational player. You can also return to a household and find out your Sims have affairs going on with strangers you as the player haven't even met in your game. ETA: From my own experience your Sim doesn't necessarily have to a romantic Sim, but it could be the townie. There doesn't seem to be a ryhme or reason.

"Cinebar;c-16678247" wrote:

"the_greenplumbob;c-16671350" wrote:
My sims never do romantic actions with random strangers autonomously, so what purpose would this serve - I know if my sims are going to gay or straight or anything in-between.

The last time I played (and since day one) these Sims had affairs going on (in my game) with Sims they supposedly had seen out on community lots or open spaces. I've said this many times I guess, the game turned Watson gay though I had planned for him to marry Mary. It happens sometimes right in front of you if they are usually a romantic Sim and get a flirty mood. Or other Sims are flirty it spills over onto your own Sim. It may have been tweaked since the first year of game. However, last time I played it made a Sim of mine (straight) get up from his table at a restaurant and go flirt with another set of Sims (married) to flirt with the husband. In front of his girlfriend and the other guy's wife. I had never played them as bi or gay. It happens quite often if you are a rotational player. You can also return to a household and find out your Sims have affairs going on with strangers you as the player haven't even met in your game.

Tweaked? It got far worse. Now they roll out the wish to flirt with whoever regardless the sex, you just have to befriend another sims for the wish to appear. Sims in flirty mood flirt with everything that moves. Sims in confident mode do the "bold pick up line" with everything that moves. It seems like if you want one sims to be etero, the game do the impossible to force you into having him\her bisexual, same if you want your sims to be gay. I disabled the random flirting, it would be fine if a sim with an already established preference refused the flirt from other sims, but like this is a mess. And yes, I'm sure my sims have 100% established preference because I set them manually and check them with a mod.