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HOWEVER, the awesome @Snowie has taken it upon herself to step into my shoes and keep this challenge alive, and she has my complete blessing to do so. If and when I return, we will figure out how to proceed.

In the meanwhile, you can find the latest semi-unofficial updates here, and the matching scorecard spreadsheet here.

My apologies for not keeping this challenge updated, and for taking so long to accept it, but I hope you'll enjoy it now that it is in Snowie's capable hands.

/Cloudseeker


LATEST UPDATE (February 29th):


http://i57.tinypic.com/211rtz5.png

ABOUT THE CHALLENGE
The Sims 4 History Challenge is a Legacy-style challenge that takes your Sims on a journey through the history of the world. It spans 7 major time periods, referred to as Eras, from prehistoric to modern, across multiple generations of Sims. The selection of aspirations, careers, and objects you may use will be quite limited at first, but as you progress through the Eras you will unlock more and more options. You will be challenged to not only succeed in the long run, through a set of challenge-wide goals, but also on a per-Era level, as each Era has individual goals that can only be completed while that Era is active. The challenge is designed to be historically accurate on a general, foundational level, with a few changes and personal touches to keep it challenging and dynamic. I have tried to keep available careers, objects, etc appropriate to each Era, making modifications only where things would conflict or when they would just make playing the game a pain.

The main inspiration for creating this challenge was the Through History Legacy Challenge for The Sims 3, as well as the Legacy Challenge. Many thanks to Cassalina and Pinstar/ImaginingMystic for inspiring me to do this.

RECOMMENDED MODS/CC
Please remember that downloading mods/cc is at your own risk. Though the chance may be small, they can possibly break your game. If you feel uncomfortable using mods/cc or simply don't care about things being time-appropriate, but still want to try this challenge, you are certainly free to do so.

While this challenge technically does not require any mods or custom content, the following mods/cc are recommended in order to have as good an experience as possible. In addition to the listed mods/cc, feel free to download as many additional aesthetic mods/cc as you want, such as hair, clothes and time-appropriate object variations, to give your challenge a bit more life. However, you may not use any cheat mods, or mods that otherwise give you an advantage over people who do not use them.
If you find a mod/cc that you think would be good for this challenge, let me know and I'll add it to the list if I think it belongs.

Teen Careers For All Ages by Plasticbox (outdated, may not work)
No More Culling by Dark Gaia
To avoid the ghosts of family members being removed, allowing the related Modern Day goal to be properly completed.
Nature Calls Wild Grass Toilet by LadyCadaver
To give Prehistoric Sims a place to do their business. Not needed if you have Get Together.
Notebook by Plasticbox
To give Early Civilization Sims a way to write books before the invention of the computer.
Typewriter by Ozyman
To give Old West Sims a way to write books and do career-related activities before the invention of the computer.
Empty Worlds by One Billion Pixels (recommended by @ewright9)
Only download this if you do not want to manually delete all lots and households during the setup phase.
DO NOT FORGET TO MAKE BACKUPS!
No More Autonomous Phone Actions by SimsProductions (recommended by @ewright9)
Stops Sims from constantly using their phones on their own. Not necessary if you play with autonomy off, obviously.

SupeSpeed Mod by Artum (recommended by @ewright9)
Use this to manually activate super-speed in case it doesn't automatically get activated when Sims go to sleep.

Gain Hygiene from Swimming by Tanja1986
Use this if your Sims no longer gain hygiene from swimming in pools. Download the normal version, not the \"Faster Hygiene gain from swimming\" version.
No Autonomous Roast at Campfire by ClaudiaSharon (recommended by @Anninhaliz)
Stops Sims from autonomously roasting random stuff on the campfire. Not necessary if you play with autonomy off, obviously.

SrslySims Tumblr by @SomaSin
Multiple time-appropriate object variations created with this challenge in mind.

The No More Culling mod is a script mod, and so it is important that it is installed correctly. Make sure that you place the .zip file directly in your mods folder (not in a subfolder), without unzipping it. You must also allow script mods in the game options.

EXPANSIONS/GAME PACKS/STUFF PACKS
To play this challenge as intended, you will need the Outdoor Retreat Game Pack, as it contains a number of items and gameplay mechanics that are necessary for the Prehistoric Era. Other EPs/GPs/SPs are not required, but you can use them if you wish. I have added special, optional rules for them, and those rules are colour coded so that you can easily see and disregard rules that relate to an EP/GP/SP that you don't have. The EP/GP/SP colour coding is as follows:
Outdoor Retreat
Get To Work
Luxury Party Stuff
Perfect Patio Stuff
Spa Day
Cool Kitchen Stuff
Spooky Stuff
Get Together
Movie Hangout Stuff
Romantic Garden Stuff


CHALLENGE-WIDE RULES
The following rules apply to the entire challenge, but may have exceptions during a specific Era, if the rules of that Era explicitly say so.


ERAS
There are a number of general goals that cover the entire challenge, but each Era also has its own set of individual goals and restrictions that are specific to that Era. The goals are locked to their specific Era, and therefore can only be completed while in that Era. Restrictions, on the other hand, are additive, so everything that gets unlocked in one Era stays unlocked, for every Era after it, unless it is explicitly re-locked. In other words, if something is not directly stated as allowed or disallowed in the rules of your current Era, the rules of the previous Era apply for that particular thing.

You progress to the next Era when a new generation is born, i.e. when the child who began the Era (or one of their siblings) has a child. Something like this, for example:
http://i57.tinypic.com/2uz9ma1.png

The only exception to this is the Prehistoric Era (this is further explained in the Prehistoric Era post).

GETTING STARTED
It is recommended that you start a fresh, new game for this challenge, since you cannot play any other households than your challenge household in that save file.

  • Create your two Ancestors, one male and one female, both Young Adult, and both human. Give them a prehistoric/tribal look, and choose their aspirations and traits out of the ones allowed for the Prehistoric Era. Make sure their relationship is set to “Roommates”.
    Consider sharing your Ancestors on the Gallery, using the #HistoryChallenge tag, so that others may add them to their game.
  • Choose either Willow Creek, Oasis Springs, Newcrest or Windenburg to be your challenge World. Newcrest is recommended, since it spares you the trouble of bulldozing everything. Select any empty lot in your chosen World (the largest available lot if you chose Newcrest) and move your Ancestors onto it. As soon as you regain control, exit back out to the “Manage Worlds” screen.
  • If you did not choose Newcrest as your challenge World, select your Ancestors on their lot, and click “Move Family”. Move them to a 50x50 lot, bulldozing it and evicting any family already occupying it.
  • If you did not download the Empty Worlds mod, and did not choose Newcrest as your challenge World, bulldoze all other lots in your challenge World.
  • Delete all households except for your Ancestors.
  • Place a Pool Venue and/or a National Park community lot somewhere in your challenge World. If you want to, you may also place a couple of residential lots in your challenge World. You may create these lots as you go, or place them from the Gallery, as long as they adhere to the rules of the Prehistoric Era. You may also move in a couple of additional households, if you wish.
    If you decide to create lots and/or households, consider sharing them on the Gallery, using the #HistoryChallenge tag, so that others may add them to their game.
  • Finally, select your Ancestors and start playing. Use the following cheat to set your household funds to the proper starting amount:

  • Open the cheat console
  • Enter testingcheats on to enable advanced cheats
  • OPTIONAL: Enter money 1000 to set the household's funds to 1000 simoleons, and buy some decorative trees, shrubs and rocks using that money. Note that this will increase your bills, and these objects cannot be sold until the end of the Prehistoric Era.
  • Enter money 2500 to set the household's funds to 2500 simoleons
  • Enter testingcheats off to disable advanced cheats
  • Close the cheat console

  • You are now ready to start the challenge!


    CHALLENGE-WIDE GOALS
    These are the long-term goals of your family. They can be contributed to and completed at any point in the challenge, by any Sim that is eligible for contributing to goals. They award points upon completion, no points are awarded for partially completed goals. A simple Excel spreadsheet for keeping track of these goals, as well as the individual Era goals, can be found here. If you'd rather keep track of your score using pen and paper, a printable PDF version can be found here. Also, @ewright9 has made a small sheet specifically for keeping track of the 50 000 simoleons goal of the Prehistoric Era, and it can be found here.


    STORIES/LET'S PLAYS
    If you are writing a story or doing a YouTube Let's Play of this challenge and would like me to add it here, let me know!
    http://i61.tinypic.com/2vkhqw0.png The Ash History by @tammy329
    http://i61.tinypic.com/2vkhqw0.png The Ravenwing History by @ewright9 (discontinued)
    http://i61.tinypic.com/2vkhqw0.png Meeshelby's History by @Meeshelby
    http://i61.tinypic.com/2vkhqw0.png Takareiame's History by @leiamoon
    http://i61.tinypic.com/2vkhqw0.png The Love And Pixels History by @LoveMeHateMe
    http://i61.tinypic.com/2vkhqw0.png Illyianna's History by @Illyianna2005
    http://i61.tinypic.com/2vkhqw0.png Lilith's History by @Zoey95
    http://i61.tinypic.com/2vkhqw0.png Hystoria by @OtterlyRidiculous
    http://i61.tinypic.com/2vkhqw0.png From the Dawn of Time by @SummerFalls
    http://i61.tinypic.com/2vkhqw0.png Lenei's History by @Lenei14
    http://i61.tinypic.com/2vkhqw0.png Sarah's History by @Sarahkay
    http://i61.tinypic.com/2vkhqw0.png The Ackley History by @EGrace93
    http://i57.tinypic.com/2q8a3yr.png The Wright History by @Lydiaa88
    http://i57.tinypic.com/2q8a3yr.png Del Rey Simmer's History by Del Rey Simmer
    http://i57.tinypic.com/2q8a3yr.png The Oak History by @ewright9
    http://i57.tinypic.com/2q8a3yr.png The Catty History by @kristinepunktum
    http://i57.tinypic.com/2q8a3yr.png Life in Stardust by @Spacey72659
    http://i57.tinypic.com/2q8a3yr.png Caliente's History by @Shesgotstyle19

    The following posts go through the individual rules and goals for the different Eras, one Era per post.
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    In the meanwhile, you can find the latest semi-unofficial updates here, and the matching scorecard spreadsheet here.

    My apologies for not keeping this challenge updated, and for taking so long to accept it, but I hope you'll enjoy it now that it is in Snowie's capable hands.

    /Cloudseeker


    LATEST UPDATE (February 29th):


    http://i57.tinypic.com/211rtz5.png

    ABOUT THE CHALLENGE
    The Sims 4 History Challenge is a Legacy-style challenge that takes your Sims on a journey through the history of the world. It spans 7 major time periods, referred to as Eras, from prehistoric to modern, across multiple generations of Sims. The selection of aspirations, careers, and objects you may use will be quite limited at first, but as you progress through the Eras you will unlock more and more options. You will be challenged to not only succeed in the long run, through a set of challenge-wide goals, but also on a per-Era level, as each Era has individual goals that can only be completed while that Era is active. The challenge is designed to be historically accurate on a general, foundational level, with a few changes and personal touches to keep it challenging and dynamic. I have tried to keep available careers, objects, etc appropriate to each Era, making modifications only where things would conflict or when they would just make playing the game a pain.

    The main inspiration for creating this challenge was the Through History Legacy Challenge for The Sims 3, as well as the Legacy Challenge. Many thanks to Cassalina and Pinstar/ImaginingMystic for inspiring me to do this.

    RECOMMENDED MODS/CC
    Please remember that downloading mods/cc is at your own risk. Though the chance may be small, they can possibly break your game. If you feel uncomfortable using mods/cc or simply don't care about things being time-appropriate, but still want to try this challenge, you are certainly free to do so.

    While this challenge technically does not require any mods or custom content, the following mods/cc are recommended in order to have as good an experience as possible. In addition to the listed mods/cc, feel free to download as many additional aesthetic mods/cc as you want, such as hair, clothes and time-appropriate object variations, to give your challenge a bit more life. However, you may not use any cheat mods, or mods that otherwise give you an advantage over people who do not use them.
    If you find a mod/cc that you think would be good for this challenge, let me know and I'll add it to the list if I think it belongs.

    Teen Careers For All Ages by Plasticbox (outdated, may not work)
    No More Culling by Dark Gaia
    To avoid the ghosts of family members being removed, allowing the related Modern Day goal to be properly completed.
    Nature Calls Wild Grass Toilet by LadyCadaver
    To give Prehistoric Sims a place to do their business. Not needed if you have Get Together.
    Notebook by Plasticbox
    To give Early Civilization Sims a way to write books before the invention of the computer.
    Typewriter by Ozyman
    To give Old West Sims a way to write books and do career-related activities before the invention of the computer.
    Empty Worlds by One Billion Pixels (recommended by @ewright9)
    Only download this if you do not want to manually delete all lots and households during the setup phase.
    DO NOT FORGET TO MAKE BACKUPS!
    No More Autonomous Phone Actions by SimsProductions (recommended by @ewright9)
    Stops Sims from constantly using their phones on their own. Not necessary if you play with autonomy off, obviously.

    SupeSpeed Mod by Artum (recommended by @ewright9)
    Use this to manually activate super-speed in case it doesn't automatically get activated when Sims go to sleep.

    Gain Hygiene from Swimming by Tanja1986
    Use this if your Sims no longer gain hygiene from swimming in pools. Download the normal version, not the \"Faster Hygiene gain from swimming\" version.
    No Autonomous Roast at Campfire by ClaudiaSharon (recommended by @Anninhaliz)
    Stops Sims from autonomously roasting random stuff on the campfire. Not necessary if you play with autonomy off, obviously.

    SrslySims Tumblr by @SomaSin
    Multiple time-appropriate object variations created with this challenge in mind.

    The No More Culling mod is a script mod, and so it is important that it is installed correctly. Make sure that you place the .zip file directly in your mods folder (not in a subfolder), without unzipping it. You must also allow script mods in the game options.

    EXPANSIONS/GAME PACKS/STUFF PACKS
    To play this challenge as intended, you will need the Outdoor Retreat Game Pack, as it contains a number of items and gameplay mechanics that are necessary for the Prehistoric Era. Other EPs/GPs/SPs are not required, but you can use them if you wish. I have added special, optional rules for them, and those rules are colour coded so that you can easily see and disregard rules that relate to an EP/GP/SP that you don't have. The EP/GP/SP colour coding is as follows:
    Outdoor Retreat
    Get To Work
    Luxury Party Stuff
    Perfect Patio Stuff
    Spa Day
    Cool Kitchen Stuff
    Spooky Stuff
    Get Together
    Movie Hangout Stuff
    Romantic Garden Stuff


    CHALLENGE-WIDE RULES
    The following rules apply to the entire challenge, but may have exceptions during a specific Era, if the rules of that Era explicitly say so.


    ERAS
    There are a number of general goals that cover the entire challenge, but each Era also has its own set of individual goals and restrictions that are specific to that Era. The goals are locked to their specific Era, and therefore can only be completed while in that Era. Restrictions, on the other hand, are additive, so everything that gets unlocked in one Era stays unlocked, for every Era after it, unless it is explicitly re-locked. In other words, if something is not directly stated as allowed or disallowed in the rules of your current Era, the rules of the previous Era apply for that particular thing.

    You progress to the next Era when a new generation is born, i.e. when the child who began the Era (or one of their siblings) has a child. Something like this, for example:
    http://i57.tinypic.com/2uz9ma1.png

    The only exception to this is the Prehistoric Era (this is further explained in the Prehistoric Era post).

    GETTING STARTED
    It is recommended that you start a fresh, new game for this challenge, since you cannot play any other households than your challenge household in that save file.

  • Create your two Ancestors, one male and one female, both Young Adult, and both human. Give them a prehistoric/tribal look, and choose their aspirations and traits out of the ones allowed for the Prehistoric Era. Make sure their relationship is set to “Roommates”.
    Consider sharing your Ancestors on the Gallery, using the #HistoryChallenge tag, so that others may add them to their game.
  • Choose either Willow Creek, Oasis Springs, Newcrest or Windenburg to be your challenge World. Newcrest is recommended, since it spares you the trouble of bulldozing everything. Select any empty lot in your chosen World (the largest available lot if you chose Newcrest) and move your Ancestors onto it. As soon as you regain control, exit back out to the “Manage Worlds” screen.
  • If you did not choose Newcrest as your challenge World, select your Ancestors on their lot, and click “Move Family”. Move them to a 50x50 lot, bulldozing it and evicting any family already occupying it.
  • If you did not download the Empty Worlds mod, and did not choose Newcrest as your challenge World, bulldoze all other lots in your challenge World.
  • Delete all households except for your Ancestors.
  • Place a Pool Venue and/or a National Park community lot somewhere in your challenge World. If you want to, you may also place a couple of residential lots in your challenge World. You may create these lots as you go, or place them from the Gallery, as long as they adhere to the rules of the Prehistoric Era. You may also move in a couple of additional households, if you wish.
    If you decide to create lots and/or households, consider sharing them on the Gallery, using the #HistoryChallenge tag, so that others may add them to their game.
  • Finally, select your Ancestors and start playing. Use the following cheat to set your household funds to the proper starting amount:

  • Open the cheat console
  • Enter testingcheats on to enable advanced cheats
  • OPTIONAL: Enter money 1000 to set the household's funds to 1000 simoleons, and buy some decorative trees, shrubs and rocks using that money. Note that this will increase your bills, and these objects cannot be sold until the end of the Prehistoric Era.
  • Enter money 2500 to set the household's funds to 2500 simoleons
  • Enter testingcheats off to disable advanced cheats
  • Close the cheat console

  • You are now ready to start the challenge!


    CHALLENGE-WIDE GOALS
    These are the long-term goals of your family. They can be contributed to and completed at any point in the challenge, by any Sim that is eligible for contributing to goals. They award points upon completion, no points are awarded for partially completed goals. A simple Excel spreadsheet for keeping track of these goals, as well as the individual Era goals, can be found here. If you'd rather keep track of your score using pen and paper, a printable PDF version can be found here. Also, @ewright9 has made a small sheet specifically for keeping track of the 50 000 simoleons goal of the Prehistoric Era, and it can be found here.


    STORIES/LET'S PLAYS
    If you are writing a story or doing a YouTube Let's Play of this challenge and would like me to add it here, let me know!
    http://i61.tinypic.com/2vkhqw0.png The Ash History by @tammy329
    http://i61.tinypic.com/2vkhqw0.png The Ravenwing History by @ewright9 (discontinued)
    http://i61.tinypic.com/2vkhqw0.png Meeshelby's History by @Meeshelby
    http://i61.tinypic.com/2vkhqw0.png Takareiame's History by @leiamoon
    http://i61.tinypic.com/2vkhqw0.png The Love And Pixels History by @LoveMeHateMe
    http://i61.tinypic.com/2vkhqw0.png Illyianna's History by @Illyianna2005
    http://i61.tinypic.com/2vkhqw0.png Lilith's History by @Zoey95
    http://i61.tinypic.com/2vkhqw0.png Hystoria by @OtterlyRidiculous
    http://i61.tinypic.com/2vkhqw0.png From the Dawn of Time by @SummerFalls
    http://i61.tinypic.com/2vkhqw0.png Lenei's History by @Lenei14
    http://i61.tinypic.com/2vkhqw0.png Sarah's History by @Sarahkay
    http://i61.tinypic.com/2vkhqw0.png The Ackley History by @EGrace93
    http://i57.tinypic.com/2q8a3yr.png The Wright History by @Lydiaa88
    http://i57.tinypic.com/2q8a3yr.png Del Rey Simmer's History by Del Rey Simmer
    http://i57.tinypic.com/2q8a3yr.png The Oak History by @ewright9
    http://i57.tinypic.com/2q8a3yr.png The Catty History by @kristinepunktum
    http://i57.tinypic.com/2q8a3yr.png Life in Stardust by @Spacey72659
    http://i57.tinypic.com/2q8a3yr.png Caliente's History by @Shesgotstyle19

    The following posts go through the individual rules and goals for the different Eras, one Era per post.
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  • I guess it wouldn't do any harm to place a couple of plants to start off with. I'll allow it without using the money cheat when selling them, but only up to a total value of 1000 simoleons, and they must stay there through the entire first Era.
  • Hmm, I haven't built a cemetery outside of the active lot in the Sims 4 before, so I'm not sure how it works. Do the ghosts still wander around the cemetery if it's on a separate lot? Can they still be invited into the household? If so, then I see no problem in having a dedicated cemetery. And as for women not being allowed to work; I was considering doing that at first, since that's how it is in the original Sims 3 challenge. I don't really remember why I ended up giving both genders the same rights at all times, but if enough people want it, I'll consider throwing in some gender restrictions.
  • I know the easel is unrealistic in the Prehistoric Times. I had hoped to find a fitting piece of cc, like a slab of rock or something. I really want the player to be able to paint the Prehistoric portrait while still in that Era, while the house and all the Sims are still styled appropriately, so that's why I went against realism on that particular matter.
  • Yes, items that are required for a venue type, but not yet allowed, can and should be placed somewhere Sims can't get to them (I think I wrote this somewhere in the rules?). EDIT: Apparently I didn't.
  • Practice fighting is unlocked with the Fitness skill, at level 9. I think that while writing, I was thinking \"The Sims can still go jogging. They don't need equipment.\", but now that I think about it, it might indeed be too difficult to get to Fitness 9 by just jogging, so I think I'll allow the punching bag for the Middle Ages (hey, it's sort of like a training dummy anyway, right?).
  • Ah, good catch. It is indeed supposed to be a Bar for the Old West and a Lounge for the Roaring Twenties. I was going back and forth between them, due to both having requirements that were not allowed for the Old West, but I forgot to change it when I finally made up my mind about it.
  • Very good point. Bakeries should indeed be allowed during the Industrial Era.
  • Only babies being allowed for adoption is another thing that I forgot to change while writing the challenge, thank you for spotting that. I was originally basing that on the similar rule in the Legacy challenge, but since children don't inherit traits in this challenge, there's no reason to not allow older children to be adopted.
  • The decision to disallow lovers for the Modern Day was to give a bit more distinction between it and previous Eras (I'm certainly no history expert, but I had gotten the impression that people in the old days were a lot less sneaky with their lovers). People nowaday may have just as many affairs as in the past, but I think it's more looked down upon, and people are not as public with it.


    Again, thank you for your very good input! I look forward to seeing if you come across something else while playing!
  • ","body@stringLength":"3260","rawBody":"@ewright9 Thank you very much for your input, some very good points there!

  • I guess it wouldn't do any harm to place a couple of plants to start off with. I'll allow it without using the money cheat when selling them, but only up to a total value of 1000 simoleons, and they must stay there through the entire first Era.
  • Hmm, I haven't built a cemetery outside of the active lot in the Sims 4 before, so I'm not sure how it works. Do the ghosts still wander around the cemetery if it's on a separate lot? Can they still be invited into the household? If so, then I see no problem in having a dedicated cemetery. And as for women not being allowed to work; I was considering doing that at first, since that's how it is in the original Sims 3 challenge. I don't really remember why I ended up giving both genders the same rights at all times, but if enough people want it, I'll consider throwing in some gender restrictions.
  • I know the easel is unrealistic in the Prehistoric Times. I had hoped to find a fitting piece of cc, like a slab of rock or something. I really want the player to be able to paint the Prehistoric portrait while still in that Era, while the house and all the Sims are still styled appropriately, so that's why I went against realism on that particular matter.
  • Yes, items that are required for a venue type, but not yet allowed, can and should be placed somewhere Sims can't get to them (I think I wrote this somewhere in the rules?). EDIT: Apparently I didn't.
  • Practice fighting is unlocked with the Fitness skill, at level 9. I think that while writing, I was thinking \"The Sims can still go jogging. They don't need equipment.\", but now that I think about it, it might indeed be too difficult to get to Fitness 9 by just jogging, so I think I'll allow the punching bag for the Middle Ages (hey, it's sort of like a training dummy anyway, right?).
  • Ah, good catch. It is indeed supposed to be a Bar for the Old West and a Lounge for the Roaring Twenties. I was going back and forth between them, due to both having requirements that were not allowed for the Old West, but I forgot to change it when I finally made up my mind about it.
  • Very good point. Bakeries should indeed be allowed during the Industrial Era.
  • Only babies being allowed for adoption is another thing that I forgot to change while writing the challenge, thank you for spotting that. I was originally basing that on the similar rule in the Legacy challenge, but since children don't inherit traits in this challenge, there's no reason to not allow older children to be adopted.
  • The decision to disallow lovers for the Modern Day was to give a bit more distinction between it and previous Eras (I'm certainly no history expert, but I had gotten the impression that people in the old days were a lot less sneaky with their lovers). People nowaday may have just as many affairs as in the past, but I think it's more looked down upon, and people are not as public with it.


    Again, thank you for your very good input! I look forward to seeing if you come across something else while playing!
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