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Inspired by James Turners Every Lot Challenge LP, combined with Rags to Riches and Legacy challenges, short life span and some extra restrictions, this is: Diminish the Torment Legacy Challenge a.k.a...

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Diminish the Torment Legacy Challenge a.k.a Ad Aspera Legacy Challenge.

I originally posted the rules in another thread here: https://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/comment/17969909#Comment_17969909

Basic premise: You know the tales where all the previous generations had it worse then the youth of today... How they went to school every day uphill in a snow storm and then came home again uphill in a snow storm... But the youngsters, they have it all handed to them on a silver platter. Well imagine smth like that but in the Sims - you start in total misery and hope to build a brighter, more comfortable future for the generations to come.
Life will be hard, dreams will be crushed.

Starting point:
Your sim: Your founder has to be a single young adult - pick the traits or randomize them, however you choose.
Aspiration for the founder can be either picked or randomized. The first aspiration will be the \"main\" or \"official\" aspiration (see also: goal of challenge & removing the lot challenges) .
Choose your succession rules for the legacy - any child or eldest, youngest or -for added challenge- matriarchal, patriarchal line etc. You'll have to stick to the succession rule until the end of the challenge.
Set sim lifespan to short and make sure auto age is on for all sims.

Your home: Buy an empty lot - your household will live there for the duration of the challenge.
Enable all lot challenges, + haunted house residential + Cat Hangout, Dog Hangout and Vampire Nexus traits. Keep the worst weather options (both thunderstorms and blizzards). Enable Dust System if you have the Kit; Enable NPC Voting on Community boards; Eco Footprint Gameplay etc. Basically - make sure life on the lot will be as hard as possible, using all the packs you own.
Buy some essentials for the lot, so you can always sleep on the lot. There are two options:
1) a park bench and outdoors trash can.
2) build the smallest hut you can fit in the following items (1 of each): single bed, toilet, shower, refrigerator, kitchen counter, bathroom sink. 1 door, 1 window, outdoor trash can.
Optional for added discomfort for your sim - place some laundry stuff (laundry basket, wash tub and clothesline).
Then cheat the money to 0.


Gameplay rules and restrictions:



Goal of the challenge:
Your goal is to remove all the lot challenges, that can be done when you've filled the following criteria:
You can remove 1 random lot challenge every time:

Simple Living has to be the last lot challenge you remove.
You are allowed to add one good lot trait instead of removing one bad lot trait or challenge when the criteria for lot challenge removal is met.
Haunted house residential can be removed after a household member reaches level 5 in medium skill and finishes successfully a gig in Paranormal Investigator Freelance Career.

End of challenge
You've won the challenge when you have aged up to young adult an heir who has no first hand experience of any of the struggles the founder had - so the kid (It has to be one of the legal heirs in a row of legal heirs) was born and grew up on the lot having no initial lot challenges or traits remaining (excl weather conditions, dust system, Eco Lifestyle voting system etc - those you can keep if they're part of your usual gameplay).
You've lost when your founder or heir dies before producing the next heir that is eligible to take over the \"rulership\" of the household.

In the case you've lost the initial challenge - you have the option to \"restart\" the challenge if you have a living relative within the household, that would not otherwise qualify as an heir, who will step in. As a penalty for breaking the correct succession line you have to turn back on again 3 random lot challenges. Removing the lot challenges will be \"on hold\" and you are not allowed to turn off any challenges until the new branch produces a new \"legal\" heir (within the succession rules set in the beginning of challenge) and the new heir ages up to young adult.

Enjoy!","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2021-09-26T19:34:55.000+01:00","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"tags":{"__typename":"TagConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[{"__typename":"TagEdge","cursor":"MjUuMXwyLjF8b3wxMHxfTlZffDE","node":{"__typename":"Tag","id":"tag:challenges","text":"challenges","time":"2019-11-13T16:00:07.000Z","lastActivityTime":null,"messagesCount":null,"followersCount":null}}]},"timeToRead":6,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:223544_1"},"latestVersion":null,"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":2158},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","canonicalUrl":null,"seoTitle":null,"seoDescription":null,"isEscalated":null,"placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"archivalData":null,"customFields":[],"body":"Inspired by James Turners Every Lot Challenge LP, combined with Rags to Riches and Legacy challenges, short life span and some extra restrictions, this is:
Diminish the Torment Legacy Challenge a.k.a Ad Aspera Legacy Challenge.

I originally posted the rules in another thread here: https://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/comment/17969909#Comment_17969909

Basic premise: You know the tales where all the previous generations had it worse then the youth of today... How they went to school every day uphill in a snow storm and then came home again uphill in a snow storm... But the youngsters, they have it all handed to them on a silver platter. Well imagine smth like that but in the Sims - you start in total misery and hope to build a brighter, more comfortable future for the generations to come.
Life will be hard, dreams will be crushed.

Starting point:
Your sim: Your founder has to be a single young adult - pick the traits or randomize them, however you choose.
Aspiration for the founder can be either picked or randomized. The first aspiration will be the \"main\" or \"official\" aspiration (see also: goal of challenge & removing the lot challenges) .
Choose your succession rules for the legacy - any child or eldest, youngest or -for added challenge- matriarchal, patriarchal line etc. You'll have to stick to the succession rule until the end of the challenge.
Set sim lifespan to short and make sure auto age is on for all sims.

Your home: Buy an empty lot - your household will live there for the duration of the challenge.
Enable all lot challenges, + haunted house residential + Cat Hangout, Dog Hangout and Vampire Nexus traits. Keep the worst weather options (both thunderstorms and blizzards). Enable Dust System if you have the Kit; Enable NPC Voting on Community boards; Eco Footprint Gameplay etc. Basically - make sure life on the lot will be as hard as possible, using all the packs you own.
Buy some essentials for the lot, so you can always sleep on the lot. There are two options:
1) a park bench and outdoors trash can.
2) build the smallest hut you can fit in the following items (1 of each): single bed, toilet, shower, refrigerator, kitchen counter, bathroom sink. 1 door, 1 window, outdoor trash can.
Optional for added discomfort for your sim - place some laundry stuff (laundry basket, wash tub and clothesline).
Then cheat the money to 0.


Gameplay rules and restrictions:



Goal of the challenge:
Your goal is to remove all the lot challenges, that can be done when you've filled the following criteria:
You can remove 1 random lot challenge every time:

Simple Living has to be the last lot challenge you remove.
You are allowed to add one good lot trait instead of removing one bad lot trait or challenge when the criteria for lot challenge removal is met.
Haunted house residential can be removed after a household member reaches level 5 in medium skill and finishes successfully a gig in Paranormal Investigator Freelance Career.

End of challenge
You've won the challenge when you have aged up to young adult an heir who has no first hand experience of any of the struggles the founder had - so the kid (It has to be one of the legal heirs in a row of legal heirs) was born and grew up on the lot having no initial lot challenges or traits remaining (excl weather conditions, dust system, Eco Lifestyle voting system etc - those you can keep if they're part of your usual gameplay).
You've lost when your founder or heir dies before producing the next heir that is eligible to take over the \"rulership\" of the household.

In the case you've lost the initial challenge - you have the option to \"restart\" the challenge if you have a living relative within the household, that would not otherwise qualify as an heir, who will step in. As a penalty for breaking the correct succession line you have to turn back on again 3 random lot challenges. Removing the lot challenges will be \"on hold\" and you are not allowed to turn off any challenges until the new branch produces a new \"legal\" heir (within the succession rules set in the beginning of challenge) and the new heir ages up to young adult.

Enjoy!"},"Conversation:conversation:223544":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:223544","solved":false,"topic":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:223544"},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2022-01-03T16:23:16.000Z","lastPostTime":"2022-01-03T16:23:16.000Z","unreadReplyCount":121,"isSubscribed":false},"ModerationData:moderation_data:223544":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:223544","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"Revision:revision:223544_1":{"__typename":"Revision","id":"revision:223544_1","lastEditTime":"2021-09-26T19:34:55.000+01:00"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:223552":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:223552","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:223544"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:100290"},"revisionNum":1,"uid":223552,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-creative-corner-en"},"subject":"Re: Diminish the Torment Legacy Challenge- Rules and LP","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:223552"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:223544"},"body":"
Chapter 4. Family, friends and festive spirits


Spoiler
Our first winter in Newcrest had plenty of snow, more then I've ever seen. It was almost as cold inside as it was outside. It would have been nicer if we had installed some heating beforehand, but we had not started to prepare for the cold weather just yet.
Grant was grumpy and freezing all the time. I kept dressing him in his warmest outfits, but regardless of my efforts he was always wandering around the house in shorts and a t-shirt.
It was a relief when he finally got big enough to get dressed by himself. I was worried he might hold a grudge against us, as we have been able to provide him with very little comforts and entertainment, but he seems to have embraced our humble living conditions and is willing to keep our footprint as small as possible. A real green fiend.

My water broke in the middle of the night and I once again went to the hospital on my own. Gabriel would have joined me if I asked, I'm sure, but I didn't ask. He's been getting exhausted more often then before, so I chose to let him have a good night sleep. Guidry promised that he'll tell him where I am, if Gabriel would wake up.
At the hospital I had the same weird out-of-body experience as the first time. Maybe it is normal during childbirth, but I'm glad it lasted only for a moment Soon enough I could hold my baby in my arms.

We named him Greyson.
https://i.imgur.com/sKW4Np2.jpg

Winterfest rolled in.
We celebrated the way we could. We didn't have a tree or fancy lights, but we did decorate the house and wrapped some presents.
Some friends joined the festivities. I invited Herman, the new creature keeper we've been selling some of our foraged plants to. He's been really friendly and Gabriel agreed that inviting him would be a nice thing to do. It is Winterfest after all and I imagine it gets really lonely at that secluded cabin in Bramblewood.
And Grim came over - they had been in the neighborhood (was called in to reap the soul of some poor fox) and were willing to join us for a family meal. Grim even helped me cook, while Gabriel was dealing with an unexpected NAP inspector's visit.

After dinner I delivered Gabriel my special present - Surprise, I'm pregnant again!
He sure was surprised.
Or maybe more shocked. I'm not sure, because Father Winter stepped in at that very moment and distracted us. Perhaps it was for the better. Not sure if I would have managed to hold my feelings in if Gabriel had said anything negative about me expecting again. He knows I've always dreamed about having a daughter and that would be the best winterfest present for me.

Grant was courageous enough to talk with Father Winter and ask for a present. And Herman was bold enough to flirt with me. It took me by surprise but I had no time to react. Gabriel and Grant stepped in the room right after and we started opening the gifts together. Herman left right after that so I couldn't confront him about the flirting then and there.
Probably I should've talked with him next time we met, but it felt weird to bring it up so much later. Actually, better if I forget about it. I'm starting to think that maybe I imagined it. It was a long evening and I could have sworn Father Winter almost froze to death in front of our house. And that's impossible for sure, with all the warm clothes he's wearing all the time. So, yes, it must have been my imagination.
https://i.imgur.com/vtPlFe8.jpg

Just like that - the winter was over again. It was lovely. Gabriel kept the house in order and looked after the boys. Grant is doing great at school, always on point with his homework and chores. Greyson has been growing bigger and bigger, always taking note from his older brother, rarely asking for any help. He even taught himself to potty, I mean, all by himself, my independent little man. It's been blissful.

With all my boys supporting me, this was the easiest pregnancy so far. Even childbirth was over in a minute. I walked in the hospital and then I was already holding Gil, our third son.
Well, yes, once again, a boy. I am a bit sad, but I've realized I shouldn't be disappointed about it. Who's to say I would have been happier if my firstborn would have been a girl. Perhaps I'm not to have a daughter until I've learned my lesson and started to appreciate what I have already. And what I have is great. All my boys have been the best.

...

Grim stopped by a few nights ago.
It was not a courtesy visit.
I begged them to leave, take the strays or the foxes or the neighbors walking by.
But they took what they came for.
It was all business for them.

https://i.imgur.com/uoySaIb.jpg

I suppose I'm not to have a daughter with Gabriel after all.





The Haas Family Tree (made in the Plum Tree App).
I'll be updating it as the story progresses, so ... possible spoilers for the next chapters ahead!!
Spoiler
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Chapter 4. Family, friends and festive spirits


Our first winter in Newcrest had plenty of snow, more then I've ever seen. It was almost as cold inside as it was outside. It would have been nicer if we had installed some heating beforehand, but we had not started to prepare for the cold weather just yet.
Grant was grumpy and freezing all the time. I kept dressing him in his warmest outfits, but regardless of my efforts he was always wandering around the house in shorts and a t-shirt.
It was a relief when he finally got big enough to get dressed by himself. I was worried he might hold a grudge against us, as we have been able to provide him with very little comforts and entertainment, but he seems to have embraced our humble living conditions and is willing to keep our footprint as small as possible. A real green fiend.

My water broke in the middle of the night and I once again went to the hospital on my own. Gabriel would have joined me if I asked, I'm sure, but I didn't ask. He's been getting exhausted more often then before, so I chose to let him have a good night sleep. Guidry promised that he'll tell him where I am, if Gabriel would wake up.
At the hospital I had the same weird out-of-body experience as the first time. Maybe it is normal during childbirth, but I'm glad it lasted only for a moment Soon enough I could hold my baby in my arms.

We named him Greyson.
https://i.imgur.com/sKW4Np2.jpg

Winterfest rolled in.
We celebrated the way we could. We didn't have a tree or fancy lights, but we did decorate the house and wrapped some presents.
Some friends joined the festivities. I invited Herman, the new creature keeper we've been selling some of our foraged plants to. He's been really friendly and Gabriel agreed that inviting him would be a nice thing to do. It is Winterfest after all and I imagine it gets really lonely at that secluded cabin in Bramblewood.
And Grim came over - they had been in the neighborhood (was called in to reap the soul of some poor fox) and were willing to join us for a family meal. Grim even helped me cook, while Gabriel was dealing with an unexpected NAP inspector's visit.

After dinner I delivered Gabriel my special present - Surprise, I'm pregnant again!
He sure was surprised.
Or maybe more shocked. I'm not sure, because Father Winter stepped in at that very moment and distracted us. Perhaps it was for the better. Not sure if I would have managed to hold my feelings in if Gabriel had said anything negative about me expecting again. He knows I've always dreamed about having a daughter and that would be the best winterfest present for me.

Grant was courageous enough to talk with Father Winter and ask for a present. And Herman was bold enough to flirt with me. It took me by surprise but I had no time to react. Gabriel and Grant stepped in the room right after and we started opening the gifts together. Herman left right after that so I couldn't confront him about the flirting then and there.
Probably I should've talked with him next time we met, but it felt weird to bring it up so much later. Actually, better if I forget about it. I'm starting to think that maybe I imagined it. It was a long evening and I could have sworn Father Winter almost froze to death in front of our house. And that's impossible for sure, with all the warm clothes he's wearing all the time. So, yes, it must have been my imagination.
https://i.imgur.com/vtPlFe8.jpg

Just like that - the winter was over again. It was lovely. Gabriel kept the house in order and looked after the boys. Grant is doing great at school, always on point with his homework and chores. Greyson has been growing bigger and bigger, always taking note from his older brother, rarely asking for any help. He even taught himself to potty, I mean, all by himself, my independent little man. It's been blissful.

With all my boys supporting me, this was the easiest pregnancy so far. Even childbirth was over in a minute. I walked in the hospital and then I was already holding Gil, our third son.
Well, yes, once again, a boy. I am a bit sad, but I've realized I shouldn't be disappointed about it. Who's to say I would have been happier if my firstborn would have been a girl. Perhaps I'm not to have a daughter until I've learned my lesson and started to appreciate what I have already. And what I have is great. All my boys have been the best.

...

Grim stopped by a few nights ago.
It was not a courtesy visit.
I begged them to leave, take the strays or the foxes or the neighbors walking by.
But they took what they came for.
It was all business for them.

https://i.imgur.com/uoySaIb.jpg

I suppose I'm not to have a daughter with Gabriel after all.





The Haas Family Tree (made in the Plum Tree App).
I'll be updating it as the story progresses, so ... possible spoilers for the next chapters ahead!!

https://theplumtreeapp.com/public/615a054287180fcc67f9ab87
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