Option to turn off loading screens.

"Cinebar;13010786" wrote:

"Arletta;13010766" wrote:
Personally, rather than go "Hey, this is their fault" on whatever you're blaming, I'll blame something innocuous like global warming or not enough fish in the ocean.

It isn't anybody's fault. They made a choice when they were making the game. It is that simple. Acting like children screaming "YOUR FAULT" isn't conducive. We have loading screens. No, they cannot be switched off. Deal with it. *insert eye rolling emoticon here*

*If it can't be changed Arletta, then there was no point in the head of this game asking players to please tell her what they want changed about the loading screens and the worlds. In a sticky at the top of this forum. She has stated they are kicking around several ideas and yes, it is possible to change it. The point would be is it feasible as they have stated? Money wise, time wise, and or technically and or worth it to them to change it to be less intrusive.

*sighs heavily*

I'm not arguing whether it's possible or impossible to open up the neighbourhoods, Cinebar. Kicking around ideas isn't the same as changing things. Of course they want feedback. It makes us feel useful (kind of) and they can discuss these things with more of an idea of what's wanted in mind. Until and unless it's changed we're stuck with loading screens. There are no two ways about that. It is something that has to be dealt with, at least for the moment.

That wasn't my issue and still isn't my issue. What got me (and still does) is the immaturity of discussing who's 'fault' it is that we've got loading screens. If you're going to have these discussions at least be mature about it, instead of trying to stick blame where blame shouldn't be stuck.

"Arletta;13010863" wrote:

"Cinebar;13010786" wrote:

"Arletta;13010766" wrote:
Personally, rather than go "Hey, this is their fault" on whatever you're blaming, I'll blame something innocuous like global warming or not enough fish in the ocean.

It isn't anybody's fault. They made a choice when they were making the game. It is that simple. Acting like children screaming "YOUR FAULT" isn't conducive. We have loading screens. No, they cannot be switched off. Deal with it. *insert eye rolling emoticon here*

*If it can't be changed Arletta, then there was no point in the head of this game asking players to please tell her what they want changed about the loading screens and the worlds. In a sticky at the top of this forum. She has stated they are kicking around several ideas and yes, it is possible to change it. The point would be is it feasible as they have stated? Money wise, time wise, and or technically and or worth it to them to change it to be less intrusive.

*sighs heavily*

I'm not arguing whether it's possible or impossible to open up the neighbourhoods, Cinebar. Kicking around ideas isn't the same as changing things. Of course they want feedback. It makes us feel useful (kind of) and they can discuss these things with more of an idea of what's wanted in mind. Until and unless it's changed we're stuck with loading screens. There are no two ways about that. It is something that has to be dealt with, at least for the moment.

That wasn't my issue and still isn't my issue. What got me (and still does) is the immaturity of discussing who's 'fault' it is that we've got loading screens. If you're going to have these discussions at least be mature about it, instead of trying to stick blame where blame shouldn't be stuck.

I doubt very much it is the player's fault they have loading screens in this game as others just pointed out in another thread they think it is due to all the griping about open world in the TS3 that this is a direct result from those complaints. I doubt that. As I stated there and will state it here, this game is the direct result of failing to understand players never wanted another MMO and after it was too late to ditch all that work and money down the drain we wind up with what could be salvaged and reworked to resemble some sort of console version of The Sims 2 or The Sims 3 for PS3orPS4.

Yep I'm with Cinebar. Riccitiello was a social network gaming maniac and he made the decision to let the next Sims generation become MMO (project Olympus). Much money has been put into that and when they realised it was the wrong decision they didn't want to lose all the money they put in already. The result is Sims 4 as we know it.

"CrackFox;13010809" wrote:
I think the only way this would happen is if they brought in a new team of people. The current team obviously aren't keen on the open world approach otherwise they would have shipped the game like that. They have already said that although it's possible to code the engine different for open worlds the cost and time involved in that process would be huge. The fact that they actually told us that was short for 'so obviously you can see why we wouldn't do that'.

I have to agree that the loading screens are getting longer and this is still just a base game. When we have 3 or 4 expansions it's gonna become a big problem and I doubt we'll see much different between this game and the Sims 3 in terms of lag. You definitely need a better graphics card than the Sims 2 to make the game look nice as well, you need a pretty good one if you want everything to look good, including the windows which require advanced anti-aliasing to not have jaggies.

Well the same people made Sims 4 that made Sims 3. So how is that going to help? Personally I have no issues with Sims 4 - nor did i have many issues with Sims 3. I enjoy both of them as well as Sims 2 also.

I don't have any hang ups about loading screen or not having load screens - and I have no qualms about taking my Sims out and about in Sims 4. It is much more fluid and open than Sims 2 was, and I still enjoy playing some Sims 2. But I also love the Sims 3 and all my Supernaturals in particular, as well as the Oasis Landing world and concept in Sims 3. Sims 4 I am enjoying it so far - but I honestly can say is I know i will enjoy it a lot more when more eps with more worlds and more Community lots exist. That to me is the only issue is the fact it is just a base game. Not one of the Sims 2 or 3 base games did i ever feel fully amused and entertained with. It took at least 2 ep - although i have to admit Sims 2 with all generations was the most entertaining base game, and having UNi as it's first ep kept me interested with no sense of needing another ep and more experience. Sims 3 did not really hold my interest until it had two eps - although I like WA, the game felt more like a job at time, and I was not able to just relax and enjoy just playing until Ambitions and the new careers came out. Those were fun - well sans the fireman career - that one was a bit nerve wracking with the natural disasters thing - but the rest was tons of fun. As was most of the rest of the eps.

But for me a base game is never a complete game, and I pretty much cannot spend endless hours enjoying just a base game - I don't care which Sims game it is - so.... I don't even think changing the map to be more open would do as much as people think it would anyway. For me the game will be much more entertaining when more eps are introduced. Load screen or no load screens.

I should add though length of load screens are not a big issue for me either. They never really bother me. Maybe the fact I always have a decent pc makes me less aware of how annoying they probably are to players without great pcs. I can't say as that is not my experience. But so far for me Sims 4 loads are hardly more than an eye blink - and i am already bugging hubby for a new rebuilt after Christmas even though he did some rebuilding on this one back in late August. But that is just me with my eye on the newest Asus mobo coming out shortly. In fact even today hubby left for Maine this morning to go pick me up a new wide screen monitor. My middle son has his own pc shop and has me a new and bigger wide screen seeing this one is almost 5 years old - and the first step I needed before I even get another new rebuild. hehehe

"Cinebar;13010871" wrote:

"Arletta;13010863" wrote:

"Cinebar;13010786" wrote:

"Arletta;13010766" wrote:
Personally, rather than go "Hey, this is their fault" on whatever you're blaming, I'll blame something innocuous like global warming or not enough fish in the ocean.

It isn't anybody's fault. They made a choice when they were making the game. It is that simple. Acting like children screaming "YOUR FAULT" isn't conducive. We have loading screens. No, they cannot be switched off. Deal with it. *insert eye rolling emoticon here*

*If it can't be changed Arletta, then there was no point in the head of this game asking players to please tell her what they want changed about the loading screens and the worlds. In a sticky at the top of this forum. She has stated they are kicking around several ideas and yes, it is possible to change it. The point would be is it feasible as they have stated? Money wise, time wise, and or technically and or worth it to them to change it to be less intrusive.

*sighs heavily*

I'm not arguing whether it's possible or impossible to open up the neighbourhoods, Cinebar. Kicking around ideas isn't the same as changing things. Of course they want feedback. It makes us feel useful (kind of) and they can discuss these things with more of an idea of what's wanted in mind. Until and unless it's changed we're stuck with loading screens. There are no two ways about that. It is something that has to be dealt with, at least for the moment.

That wasn't my issue and still isn't my issue. What got me (and still does) is the immaturity of discussing who's 'fault' it is that we've got loading screens. If you're going to have these discussions at least be mature about it, instead of trying to stick blame where blame shouldn't be stuck.

I doubt very much it is the player's fault they have loading screens in this game as others just pointed out in another thread they think it is due to all the griping about open world in the TS3 that this is a direct result from those complaints. I doubt that. As I stated there and will state it here, this game is the direct result of failing to understand players never wanted another MMO and after it was too late to ditch all that work and money down the drain we wind up with what could be salvaged and reworked to resemble some sort of console version of The Sims 2 or The Sims 3 for PS3orPS4.

You can put it down to whatever you wish, but loading screens isn't something that you can attribute blame to. Blaming half the player base isn't a good way to go about it if you wanted to attribute blame to somebody for it. The decision was made. End of discussion.

Don't blame the lower end computers for the game's failures. The lower end computers aren't to blame for the lack of toddlers in the game, nor for the lack of dishwashers/trash compactors/cars and all the things we have come to associate with a Sims *base game*. They are not to blame for the lack of in-depth gameplay, or the fact that family gameplay was tossed together at the last minute and is disconnected to such an extent that those who rely on the Sims to play out their Sim's family life stories are unhappy with the result of not being able to have a family tree and not even recognizing family relationships beyond the first generation.

There's a lot lacking in gameplay that takes away our freedom to create. The fact that there is no community sort, for example, and that we now need checklists in order to have a venue of a certain type. And the fact that the generic lots don't come with a visitors/no visitors allowed option that limits our ability to create our own unique community lots. And why no pool zoning, since they added pools?

Sorry, you can't blame low-end computers for everything. Nice try, though. Gotta love the computer snobbery here.

"Jimil;13009833" wrote:

"colton147;13009811" wrote:

"bobyo2001;13009736" wrote:
You can't. Blame EA for giving us a downgrade.

Actually, blame the people who have a "low-end" computer. ;)

It's not like people would get a laptop for this game anyways. Yes, they finally managed to make a smoother gameplay but it is lacking so much. This game needs a redemption

I've seen a couple of posts something like this: 'Hi, I'm looking for a new computer to play Sims 4. Which laptop should I buy?' My point is that I think EA might have placed some thought in making this game more 'laptop friendly'. Again, EA's fault.

I think it is also helpful when people let others know their experiences with the games on the equipment they do have - specifically if they meet the suggested specks which is high above the minimum specs and still have issues. I know i would not be aware of a lot of problems people have with the game seeing i never see them. Like i have not seen a single crash or even hardly any issues at all in Sims 4 - so if we were just going by my own experience - I would just assume Sims 4 is pretty darn close to perfect for everybody. I also have a feeling my pc pretty much runs as good as the people testing the games for EA's do - so it is easy to see why they might think there is not all the issues in the game I have seen simmers post about.

They have to know that not everyone owns a gaming computer. They sure as heck designed the game as if no one did.

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You dont need a gaming laptop in the world of 2014, I play sims 3 fine on a $350 laptop. I think its people playing on outdated computers, besides putting everything on high isnt always good.