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7 years ago

Supernatural (Comment YOUR IDEAS!!)

Sul Sul!!

I know I'm not the first to post about this, but I did want to add to what other's have come up with.

I think it would be incredible if we had more supernatural themes in game. A Supernatural/Magic themed EP would be an incredible add, in my opinion. IF THEY DID IT RIGHT. I think Sims 4 has come a long way since it's release; I'm finally truly enjoying my gameplay within the last year or so, with the addition of Toddlers, Cats and Dogs, GTW, GT, CL, and of course, SEASONS; but I have been craving some supernatural gameplay.

Now, I'm 26, and I've been playing The SIms since I was 9, since it's release of the first iteration back in 2000, and I have ALWAYS been a generational/realism player. I've only ever dabbled with "supernatural" sims in the very first Sims game, and I'm not even sure you can go that far as to call it "supernatural" gameplay. I literally made a "goth" themed sim, and had her join the psychic career path. I never actually purchased or played any of the supernatural packs in later games, and I am not a fan of Vampires or Aliens in game at all. (going back to reference that I am a realistic-styled player)

HOWEVER, I recently, and by recently I mean within the last few days, made a "witch/gypsy" themed Sim, and I AM OBSESSED. I love her, and I am just so lacking the supernatural aspect to the game that would afford me the ability to really explore her lifestyle in depth.

In my opinion, I think if they added a Supernatural/Magic themed EP, it could be an extremely addicting, and fun addition.

What I'd like to see:

Different lifestyles, aspirations, traits, and moods
Different career paths to suit our supernatural sims
Exciting new gameplay- interactions, skills, whims, ect.
Supernatural themed decor/furniture.

For the aspirations:
Romany - focus on the Gypsy aspects (for your sims interested in the Fortune Telling career)
Druid - focus on the ancient crafts; priests, magicians, soothsayers, ect.
"Head Witch/Warlock"- for your witch/warlock sims. Self explanatory
Enlightened - focus on the "inner being" aspects, would work with wellness skill.(for your sims wanting a career as a psychic or medium)
Unrivaled Supernatural- where they work towards becoming the top in their career path, be it Psychic, Fortune Teller, Medium, ect.

Traits:
Aware - would compliment the Enlightened aspiration
Intuitive - would compliment Witch/Warlock sims, as well as sims in the Psychic, Medium, or Fortune Teller career paths.
Peaceful/Tranquil

Career Paths:
Psychic
Fortune Teller
Medium
Potions - which would closely relate to the Gardening career, in which they focus on herbology and making potions from different plants.
Jewler - craft and enchant different gems.

Interactions/Skills/Whims:
Magic Skill
Herbology/Potions Skill
Fortune Telling Skill
Cast a Spell - interaction where your sim can cast a spell on themselves, or other sims, regarding love, luck, mischief, ect.
Contact Ghosts - interaction where your Medium or Psychic sims can offer to contact a sims passed loved ones.
Cleanse - Supernatural sims with a high enough Gardening skill can grow sage, and burn it in their homes, or homes of others to "cleanse" it.
Enchant - interaction where your sim with a high enough logic/magic skill can enchant food, objects, plants, ect, to boost their tastes or quality.
Tell Fortune - interaction where your Supernatural Sim, with high enough skill, could use a crystal ball, or a gem to tell the fortune of another sim.
Curse - mischievous interaction where your angry sim can cast a curse on another sim they may dislike. Annoying inlaws? Curse them!

I'd just really enjoy a Supernatural themed EP, and I think with Fall coming up, it would make for an amazing expansion!!

Comment down below, and let me know your thoughts and opinions!! Are you totally for a Supernatural addition to our game?? Are you absolutely against it?? Sound off below, and let me know what you think!!

Also, feel free to add any ideas you may have!! I'd love to hear them.

Thanks for reading guys, and as always, Happy Simming!!

-Wittlemouse

CeCeDot
7 years ago
Life states don't seem to fit in the this theme you want. I would rather leave them in a game pack so they can be fleshed out and not pressed in your face in an EP (especially because you don't get to toggle them off). But I like the 'real life' supernatural theme you seem to want! Tho I'm not sure it could be a whole EP. Maybe a ghost hunter career could fit in this? They could implement some magic aspect into this, but the big witch label should go to a dedicated gamepack, in my opinion.

PS, I think with recent times, calling someone who is in the fortune teller career a gypsy might be offensive to Romani people.
Evanesims
7 years ago
If they're going to create a customizable system (like clubs in GT and calendars in Seasons), I'd love if we get a tool to create our own life states, every thing from wings, skin, facial features, powers, weaknesses, effects on certain objects and effects on certain skills, and unique social interactions. For example, premade fairies can easily earn gardening skills and have customizable wings, genies can raise their handiness, witches learn mixology and cooking skills faster, werewolves are more athletic and have special social interactions.
Imagine if we were able to create our own occults, that would be amazing.
CeCeDot
7 years ago
"Wittlemousee;c-16608247" wrote:
@CeCeDot My best friend is Roma, her entire family prefers it, so I'm used to it, but I see your point.

I really like the ghost hunter idea, that would be cool, and I think it would be quite entertaining!!

And yeah, I try to stick as close to realistic as possible, I just think with so many things in Sims 4, they've catered to a younger audience, and traded a lot of realism for comedy. (Telescopes being scaled to a comedic size, Pirate ship park equipment instead of a jungle gym, ect.)

And I totally get where you're coming from with a GP instead of an EP, I just don't see them putting as much quality into a GP for any supernatural content as they would an EP, but I do think for life states they should've found a way to toggle them off, because the world is such a giant melting pot, not everyone is going to agree or like the same things, so I totally get where you're coming from.

Hopefully I didn't offend anyone, just like I said, grew up with my best friend preferring we stick to the word gypsy, so it's a bit ingrained, lol.

You didn't offend me! But I've seen this being mentioned by other people so I'm sure EA or the simguru's don't want to risk offending anyone. And I'm pretty sure not every gypsy identifies as being a witch.
We cannot change the fact that the Sims is catered to teens, not adults. They need to maintain their rating.
Certainly many people agree to split up occults in game packs. With vampires being so amazing and all that. And that way they can buy the occults they like and don't like separately. It's mostly a win win for me! That way there is no need for a toggle.
CeCeDot
7 years ago
"Dannydanbo;c-16608924" wrote:
Not all supernaturals need or deserve a full on GP, much less could fill one. I could see a magic/witch GP but after that an EP full of "lesser" supernaturals would probably be the way to go.

How do you know for sure? Robots could be a part of a GP about robotics as the theme, but there could be more to the pack than just robot making.
Which occults according to you don't need a GP?
CeCeDot
7 years ago
"Dannydanbo;c-16608977" wrote:
"CeCeDot;c-16608943" wrote:
"Dannydanbo;c-16608924" wrote:
Not all supernaturals need or deserve a full on GP, much less could fill one. I could see a magic/witch GP but after that an EP full of "lesser" supernaturals would probably be the way to go.

How do you know for sure? Robots could be a part of a GP about robotics as the theme, but there could be more to the pack than just robot making.
Which occults according to you don't need a GP?

The point of GPs is that they were focused on one theme, one idea, like vampires, not vampires and picnics. Robots are not big enough to fill a GP alone and they aren't gong to make a Tech GP with robots thrown in as an extra. GPs have a single theme, not a collection of lesser themes that are similar.

As I stated in my first post, witches/magic in a GP, all other lesser supernaturals could be in an EP as a group and still be fully flesh out as they don't have that much lore to explore.

But which ones are lesser? Maybe robots don't need a town, but they could. It might be a pack about robotics in general, so not just robots, but inventions as well that make life easier
LauriAnton
7 years ago
In my opinion witches should never be made into occults, as I personally enjoy my game realistic (I delete all vampire households as I begin a new game).

Anyway, sometimes I wish that some of my sims could have some supernatural powers that other sims don’t know about. I also really liked ur idea of enlightened sims, as the game really lacks spiritual aspect to it (considering that spirituality, after all, is a pretty common thing irl).

All in all, I would be super duper happy if the pack that introduces magic would be something like this:

Magicians gp:
-Sims can practice and use magic (I don’t want them to be completely occults though)
-Hogwarts-style school of magic with teacher career and student career
-No mini-world as I never use the one that came with vampires
WrathfulAgony
7 years ago
"Dannydanbo;c-16608977" wrote:
"CeCeDot;c-16608943" wrote:
"Dannydanbo;c-16608924" wrote:
Not all supernaturals need or deserve a full on GP, much less could fill one. I could see a magic/witch GP but after that an EP full of "lesser" supernaturals would probably be the way to go.

How do you know for sure? Robots could be a part of a GP about robotics as the theme, but there could be more to the pack than just robot making.
Which occults according to you don't need a GP?

The point of GPs is that they were focused on one theme, one idea, like vampires, not vampires and picnics. Robots are not big enough to fill a GP alone and they aren't gong to make a Tech GP with robots thrown in as an extra. GPs have a single theme, not a collection of lesser themes that are similar.

As I stated in my first post, witches/magic in a GP, all other lesser supernaturals could be in an EP as a group and still be fully flesh out as they don't have that much lore to explore.

This is your own limited perspective, though. It's the Devs' job to be creative, so while you may not be able to think of ways to make Robots have enough content for a GP, they likely can.

And it wouldn't be that hard to do. A Robot focused GP could add in the ability to make robot Sims and normal Sims with technology on them. Specific pieces and upgrades (in say an upgrade panel like in Vampires) give your Sim abilities as well as weaknesses.

There's also many different references the Devs could take inspiration from. SOMA, Transformers, Terminator, etc. In Star Trek, for example, there's technology that makes humans live longer. They could make up something similar for Sims.

If they wanted to add in their own world, they could. Like a small steampunk-ish world or some kind of futuristic one in which you could go there to access a "robotics lab" to further customize and upgrade your metal-man or slightly metal-man Sim.

Heck, they've even been talking about adding in handi-capped and disabled Sims. They could use robotics for that, too. Even things that can make Elders a little more spry.

It's not necessarily about being primarily about ROBOTS, but technology in general, and robots would be a part of that.

So with that, they definitely could do a robotics/technology focused GP as thinking up ways to apply fictional technology to Sims wouldn't be any different than thinking up ways to apply supernatural abilities (like Vampires) to Sims.
CeCeDot
7 years ago
"Dannydanbo;c-16609122" wrote:
"CeCeDot;c-16608988" wrote:
"Dannydanbo;c-16608977" wrote:
"CeCeDot;c-16608943" wrote:
"Dannydanbo;c-16608924" wrote:
Not all supernaturals need or deserve a full on GP, much less could fill one. I could see a magic/witch GP but after that an EP full of "lesser" supernaturals would probably be the way to go.

How do you know for sure? Robots could be a part of a GP about robotics as the theme, but there could be more to the pack than just robot making.
Which occults according to you don't need a GP?

The point of GPs is that they were focused on one theme, one idea, like vampires, not vampires and picnics. Robots are not big enough to fill a GP alone and they aren't gong to make a Tech GP with robots thrown in as an extra. GPs have a single theme, not a collection of lesser themes that are similar.

As I stated in my first post, witches/magic in a GP, all other lesser supernaturals could be in an EP as a group and still be fully flesh out as they don't have that much lore to explore.

But which ones are lesser? Maybe robots don't need a town, but they could. It might be a pack about robotics in general, so not just robots, but inventions as well that make life easier

I have clearly stated twice that witches/magic could be in a GP and EVERYTHING else could be in a EP. What part of that is confusing?

As for ROBOTS, I would rather have a hobbies EP with the return of the inventing skill and work bench. Bots are a single item that all play the same way, unlike witches which have a myriad of game play.

Never said it was confusing. Just wanted to know which occults you meant,because I have to disagree about a few. Werewolves definitely need their own GP. And this time they could expand upon mermaids and fairies. I'd rather they got their own GP rather than be a minor part in an EP, like aliens.
CeCeDot
7 years ago
"Dannydanbo;c-16609402" wrote:
Well, as @AHolyToilet was kind enough to point out, it's not up to us, it's up to the devs. It does seem odd that we expend so much energy trying to convince other players, when it's the devs we need to convince.

The devs come here for feedback and ideas, so this is a good way of giving them different perspectives. By players discussing what they think about certain topics.
Anonymous
7 years ago
Fairies and elves would go well with a magic-based pack, as both races are inherently magical creatures. I'd love a Dragon Valley-type world to go with them, too.