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HollownessDevour
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3 months ago
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[AA] 23 Formative Moments Not Working

PC, internal file review

From what I can see 23 Formative Moments, do not have any corresponding files to provide the advantages they claim from the tooltip. For those who might not know often advantages (such as career/skill/etc.) are often handled in a corresponding "buff_" file for a trait.

First image has corresponding Buff_ file, and the second file does not.

I also checked career internal files in case the career advantage was decided there, but no entries for formative moments. Now I know their might be a chance they are handled elsewhere, but because more than half do have the corresponding files—this just is a huge inconsistency. I haven't checked every file or check in game (as some advanced in game would be hard to tell the difference, especially when it is unknow the amount of an advantage—I am unable to really check in game either). 

I doubt any average user could or would be able to tell this, so I don't know if you will get much upvotes on this, but almost half your informative moments might not have been finished/are working. As players we trust all features and tooltips are correct and working, and in many cases cannot confirm without reviewing the internal files.

This is basically a friendly heads-up notice, that this may want to be reviewed by devs. Here are the files I noticed have no corresponding "buff" files:

  • trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_AboutScience
  • trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_CareForEnvironment
  • trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_BeDisciplined
  • trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_BeACaregiver
  • trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_EstablishAnImage
  • trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_BeAStar
  • trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_AspiringAuthor
  • trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_BeAnEntertainer
  • trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_BeAGoodStudent
  • trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_EncounterDeath
  • trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_AmateurPhotographer
  • trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_BeARogue
  • trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_BeEntrepreneurial
  • trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_BeABestFriend
  • trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_BeInvestigative
  • trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_BeACompletionist
  • trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_BeUseful
  • trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_FeedYourself
  • trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_FormBondsAwayFromHome
  • trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_HaveBestImaginaryFriend_Pegacorn
  • trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_LearnFromThePast
  • trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_ShowMorbidCuriosity
  • trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_AboutTechnology

 

edit, May 20 Jun 17, 2026: It looks like DU's trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_AboutTechnology also has no corresponding buff file, but the Parenthood is there. So 23 Formative Moments Not Working.

I have more information, it was pointed out that formative moments traits are per career_level/career. For formative moments that have to do with careers.

The career files I looking was career/career_adult or career/careers_adult files, when I was looking through the files because that is where the other trait advantages are. But as pointed out that by some in the thread there is no advantage (including another bug report for fame points). Such as Culinary:

  • career/career_Adult_Culinary here is where these traits/skills are getting advantages (career_story_progression): trait_Ambitious, trait_Lazy, trait_Foodie, trait_Glutton, statistic_Skill_AdultMajor_GourmetCooking, statistic_Skill_AdultMajor_HomestyleCooking, statistic_Skill_AdultMajor_Baking.
  • career_level/career_Culinary_Level1 and so on, here is where (performance_stat_multiplier) trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_FeedYourself moment is.

 

I don't know if this is a career_story_progression vs. performance_stat_multiplier issue. Or that because it is the career level file. Clearly this needs to be checked, tested and confirmed by devs.

  • Hi all,

    Thanks for reporting this! We've investigated into this and have verified that these Formative Moments are currently working as intended. Not all Formative Moments are intended to give a buff, and the gameplay described in these moments is still functioning. 

    Please feel free to provide your feedback on this design choice if you'd like, and if you run into any individual bugs or issues with Formative Moments, we'll track those issues separately.

    Thanks! 

9 Replies

  • minsk75's avatar
    minsk75
    Seasoned Traveler
    2 months ago

    Wow, just wow. It would be nice to have a confirmation if this is the case or not. If half of the formative moments don't do anything... it's like been cheated, deceived and truly a waste of time to have formative moments.

  • voxxy1255's avatar
    voxxy1255
    Seasoned Newcomer
    2 months ago

    Thank you. I noticed that my sim with the feed yourself formative moment, had no advantage in the culinary career. I thought that was odd but now I know why.

  • The 'Good Student' formative moment doesn't work at all in my experience. If you're already an A student it doesn't recognise it.

  • It looks like DU's trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_AboutTechnology also has no corresponding buff file, but the Parenthood one is there. So 23 Formative Moments Not Working.

    I tried to edit the OP but it keeps giving me errors and won't update.

  • Came here from my post about Aspiring Child Star, and wanted to thank you here for looking underneath the hood like this and seeing that it's not just Aspiring Child Star, it's sooooo many. 

  • I have more information, it was pointed out that formative moments traits are per career_level/career. For formative moments that have to do with careers.

    The career files I looking was career/career_adult or career/careers_adult files, when I was looking through the files because that is where the other trait advantages are. But as pointed out that by some in the thread there is no advantage (including another bug report for fame points). Such as Culinary:

    • career/career_Adult_Culinary here is where these traits/skills are getting advantages (career_story_progression): trait_Ambitious, trait_Lazy, trait_Foodie, trait_Glutton, statistic_Skill_AdultMajor_GourmetCooking, statistic_Skill_AdultMajor_HomestyleCooking, statistic_Skill_AdultMajor_Baking.

    • career_level/career_Culinary_Level1 and so on, here is where (performance_stat_multiplier) trait_Reward_ChildhoodInspiration_FeedYourself moment is.

     

    I don't know if this is a career_story_progression vs. performance_stat_multiplier issue. Or that because it is the career level file. Clearly this needs to be checked, tested and confirmed by devs.

  • Nozladi's avatar
    Nozladi
    Seasoned Veteran
    1 month ago

    Be comfortable in water:  I haven't had any issues prior to the 2 children I'm currently playing. They can't complete anything with the "doing anything" part of the moment. Nothing will trigger. Relaxing on the lounger, floating in the pool, swimming around, splashing, playing in water, wading in the ocean. Nothing. When their mother and uncle were children there were no problems at all. I'm not sure how to get it to work. I've tried several things Google suggested. I have reset them, traveled to a different world, went to manage worlds and back in. I have every pack and a few maker kits. I can't help but wonder if one of the last 2 updates did this.

    Aspiring Author/Be a Horse Kid: I can read 50 books and it won't show up as an option. Read under the covers incessantly. For horses, ride them, hug them, watch Pony channel. I did that for 2 days strait with the mother of the children I'm having issues with right now. 

    Inquisitive About Cuisine: It came up, but won't complete that last one. I removed them and hope they come back so I can finish it. One play online reported that it did for them and immediately completed. It unstuck it. I am not holding out hope. 

    I have to admit, the formative moments had become one of my favorite parts of playing children. I love trying to complete them all. It's frustrating when something won't appear as an option or won't trigger as an action completed. It's made children so much fun. The last couple of days I have gotten so frustrated I've quit the game and binged episodes of Murder She Wrote. I know there are more issues with FM I could list. 

  • Would really love to hear something back about this (even if the fix isn't coming in June). Even if it is not all these formative moments—there is definite some issues with some. Would love official explanation or confirmation. 

  • EA_Solaire's avatar
    EA_Solaire
    Icon for Community Manager rankCommunity Manager
    1 day ago

    Hi all,

    Thanks for reporting this! We've investigated into this and have verified that these Formative Moments are currently working as intended. Not all Formative Moments are intended to give a buff, and the gameplay described in these moments is still functioning. 

    Please feel free to provide your feedback on this design choice if you'd like, and if you run into any individual bugs or issues with Formative Moments, we'll track those issues separately.

    Thanks! 

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