IDEA for Sims 4 expansion pack: A Dreaming Expansion.

omg yes a dream pack (literally and figuratively) maybe it can have a secret world similair to Realm Of Magic?

they could've made it with the "Life And Death" pack so i'm dissapointed ghost didn't come with a secret world i was hoping for

sure it's nothing like "Life And Death" pack but i'm definitely in for a pack your sim get to see their ghost sims who all have died, even if it means the secret world takes place in your sleep only ("Businesses And Hobbies" came with a pack with owning their own businesses but i noticed when your sim is sleeping and it has that sort of a sleeping perk your copy sim will do things in their sleep like doing painting, playing an instrument, anything that's hobbies related so it should be possible in my opinion)

maybe they can add an bed option called like "lucid dreaming" or something? (it's rare but according to google it's possible) so your sim can see the ghost sims, the social and energy needs get full so it's a win-win

a personality trait called "the dreamer"? (can't think of any other personalities then this) you get a happy or inspired moodlet if you sees a deceased sims but you get a very sad moodlet if you don't interract with the ghost sims especially friends and family (it can be both in your dream and when you're not dreaming when it involves ghosts)

just a thought though but i came up with this based on the topic here

it's your ideas i came up with my ideas

I just searched fantasy in the search bar and i stumbled into a pack idea i'm definitely in for it

Name: The Sims 4 Whispers From Beyond

World Name: Restmoor
"rest" reflects the peaceful nature of both the world and the dream realm, while "moor" suggests a mystical, foggy landscape-perfect
for the eerie yet beautiful setting you're envisioning

This part of the world is based on: England and ireland combined

secret world name: Lunaris hollow
"Lunaris" references the moon and the concept of dreams and nighttime while "hollow" suggests a secret hidden space-perfect for a ghostly world with mysterious elements.

The Secret world is based on: ireland and Scandinavia enviroment wise in particular (Landscape: Japan and Greece combined, with the gothic vibe of France)

What if we can add 1 more bed option when going to sleep and calls it "lucid dreaming" or something?
your energy needs get full and same with social needs so it's a win-win for everybody who wants this pack idea

I wished it came with "Life And Death" pack since it's quite death related and ghost sims have more skills options there so it only makes sense if they could've added lucid dreaming as an option

It needs a new personality trait like maybe a "the dreamer" or something?
your sim is happy when they interract with a ghost/deceased sims both when awake and when sleeping so it has an inspired or happy moodlet but when they haven't interracted with the ghost/deceased sims they get a sad moodlet

I think this quite match with the pack idea (but i'm neutral for now with this trait idea)

This quite match with the pack in my opinion (i do think they should come with a better symbol/icon, more of like a 🙏 symbol/icon rather than the world one)

(It will be quite similair to this, a portal for sure but the world itself isn't exactly alike like this picture does, more in a daylight kind of mode with a more colourfull buildings even if it's possibly only there for decorations...one of the rare cases i don't mind having buildings as decorations)

When in dreaming mode it should come with a secret world similair to "Realm Of Magic" like spellcasters has their own world i want deceased/ghost sims to have their own secret world where your sim get to see their loved ones who have died (maybe death animals if you have "Cats and Dogs" and "Horse Ranch" too for cross-pack ideas?) and unlike the "Businesses And Hobbies" you can control your sim when in dream mode

It needs to come as a normal world just like Realm Of Magic that comes with a world called "Glimmerbrook" and it's a dark world again (the closest occult i can think of is kind of like an angel sim but again i don't know if occult is necessary in this pack idea if we have ghost in basegame already and no skills is needed if we have "Life And Death" for ghost skills already, the only thing i need is for your sim to interract with deceased/ghost sims so no special skill is needed but it does complement with the "Life And Death" pack very well if they implement it very well)

I don't know if it match with an Expansion Pack though, i think it match better with a Game Pack in my opinion

The link i shared gave me an idea to add mine with a "Dreaming Pack" idea and with the most recent pack it should be possible (i played with "Businesses And Hobbies" i noticed if you have the sleeping kind of perk, the copy version of your sim will do hobbies but you can't control them though but nonetheless i'm here for more sleeping options)

I can't think of a tittle based on this idea but maybe "Dreaming Living" or "Realm Of Dreaming" should do the trick?

The world is possibly Henford-On-Bagley and Glimmerbrook combined with a bit of Tartosa with a small beach part with some ingredient you can buy outside the lot (quite similair to Henford-On-Bagley)

It has a green enviroment like "Henford-On-Bagley" and the magic like world like Glimmerbrook and a tiny little tint of Tartosa like i said with a small beach part (if it has a dark magic with a beach yet green enviroment combined in 1 world: invite me in)

As a existing lot type it should come as a bar, some are residental lots, 3 empty lot (to build your own) and a few community lot (can't think of any but one of them is possibly a library)

As a new lot trait they should add "comfortable" kind of lot so your sim rarely get tense and/or angry and if they do, it dissapears faster than normally (the complete opposite of "mean vibe" lot trait so they should disable it if the "comfortable" lot trait is on)

As a new interraction with a ghost/deceased sim your sim can get a closure with a ghost/deceased sims about things like how they died for examble or why this person reacted the way it did to this certain person (like rivalry for examble why this deceased/ghost sim disliked that person)

Even if it's only in a dream, i'd like for the sim to wake up having a happy or fine moodlet because you just made peace with a ghost/deceased sim (if Growing Together is installed it's in the "friendly" category interraction and if a ghost/deceased sim answers just like with some interractions like "get to know" and "ask about a career" for examble the answer pops up and based on the personalities you have some kind of answers like "we had different lifestyle/opposite hobbies" or "we had the opposite personalities" i don't know how it will end up but i think it should end with "i hope one day you can/will forgive me, i'm sorry for everything" or something the line like that)

Since it's been almost 3 years since the last Game Pack along with a few other Game Packs idea of mine, i think this version should be in Game Pack

Aspirations:

-Finding peace with yourself/deceased sim (Location category)

-Get to know the ghost world (Location category)

-Ghost Master (Knowledge category)
now i know it may look the same at first glance with the Ghost Historian so it can be misleading but the aspiration i have in mind is different, your sim get to study the ghost and instead of turning into temporary ghost by clicking on the pink like water in Ravenwood, you'll get to become a temporary ghost from the deceased sim who will make your sim into a temporary ghost (you can ask the deceased sim by asking to become one by clicking on the interraction "ask to become a ghost/ask to change into a ghost") for a few certain hours to experience them yourself and go to the secret world with them

I was literally about to write a aspiration but the aspiration i have in mind already exist with the "Life And Death" pack so no need to write a aspiration that already exist🤣🤣

We can have a "ghost" skill similair to the vampire one even without having this certain occult skill, the more skills you get, the more options you're gonna get and maybe if the skill is completed or near completed, you can click to your own sim (who got the ghost skill) to visit the secret world without doing much effort (quite similair to spellcasters) you normally have to do that with lucid dreams to visit this secret world

Forgive me if i'm not that creative but these are the only thing i came up with, i wouldn't mind an angel occult if the team decided to make this pack but i won't need them and it's a bit unnecessary in my opinion because what kind of powers do angel occult have in the game? (i hope it's not too similair with "Realm Of Magic" though)

Hairstyles:

I want these kind of hairstyles (stole it from Coolsims)
i want a few hairstyles for the male ones too but i don't know how but i want curly and longer hair more

By the way if i do decides to create a pack idea based on heaven/hell or angel/demon i'll create this in a seperate post
it may be death related but this is more of like a dreaming with a secret world pack

I'll add more if something comes up that match with my ideas

I think this pack idea is a bit too small for an expansion pack unless you guys have something in mind that can work as an Expansion Pack, i'd love to hear it either way! (I don't mind editing them since i do this all the time)

MxWellard​ Great idea!

agreed i 100% want this as a pack😍😍

i'm a little too lazy to edit them but to expand the ideas more based on a "Dreaming" Pack

 The Sims 4: Whispers From Beyond (Game Pack)

Tagline:

"Enter the dreamscape, find peace beyond the veil, and reconnect with those long gone."

 New World: Restmoor

• Inspiration: English-Irish moorlands; quiet countryside meets misty folklore.
• Visual Aesthetic: Rolling fog, twilight skies, crumbling ruins, spiritual glades.
• Tone: Tranquil yet mysterious, perfect for both dreamers and ghost-seekers.

World Details:

• Mixed zones: Residential, mystical hotspots, quiet farms, spiritual locations.
• Lot types:
  •  3 Empty Lots
  •  2 Residential Lots
  •  1 Library
  •  1 Bar
  •  1 Outdoor Market Stall Area (Tartosa/Henford style)

 Secret Realm: Lunaris Hollow

• Accessed via: Lucid Dreaming (New bed interaction) or via Ghost Skill
• A surreal dream-realm guided by deceased Sims, death animals (cross-pack), and ancient spirits.
• Design inspirations: Lush Ireland + snowy Scandinavia + cherry blossom Japan + cliffside Greece + Gothic France.

 New Interaction: Lucid Dreaming

• How it works: A new sleep option. While dreaming:
  • Your Sim’s Energy and Social needs fully regenerate
  • You control your Sim in dream-state
  • Explore Lunaris Hollow
  • Interact with deceased Sims, ghost pets, or ancestral spirits
  • Receive emotional closure or mystic guidance

 New Trait: The Dreamer

• Traits:
  • Gains Inspired or Happy buffs from interacting with ghosts
  • Gets Sad if they haven’t had recent spiritual contact
• Dreamer Sims can gain unique dream scenarios and deeper ghost insights.

 New Lot Trait: Comfortable

• Opposite of “Mean Vibe”
• Sims in this lot experience:
  • Faster tension/anger decay
  • More “Calm,” “Fine,” and “Inspired” moods
  • Bonus effects during dream-related events

 New Gameplay Features

Closure Conversations

• When in Lunaris Hollow or dreaming:
  • Ask ghosts: “What happened to you?”, “Why did we fight?”, “Do you forgive me?”
  • Ghosts give personality-based explanations (like differing hobbies, lifestyle, etc.)
  • End with heartfelt exchanges:
  • “I hope you can forgive me one day. I'm sorry for everything.”
  • Wakes Sim with a "Peaceful Closure" moodlet

Dream Realm Activities

• Control Sims in dreams (unlike Business & Hobbies perks)
• Talk to lost loved ones
• Explore symbolic dream worlds
• Witness events or spiritual insight scenes
• Optionally "Become a Temporary Ghost" via interaction with a deceased Sim

 New Aspirations

1. Finding Peace (Location)

Make amends with deceased Sims, unlock dream closure scenes, and build harmony

2. Dreamworld Explorer (Location)

Unlock new paths in Lunaris Hollow, build relationships with dream spirits

3. Ghost Master (Knowledge)

Study ghosts, unlock the ability to transform temporarily, access dreamworlds at will

 New Skill: Ghost Sense

• Gain by interacting with ghosts, lucid dreaming, and exploring Lunaris Hollow
• Higher levels:
  • Learn to summon dreams
  • Ask to become a temporary ghost
  • Enter dream realm without sleeping
  • Recognize spirit energy in other Sims

 Cross-Pack Integration

• Life and Death Pack: Complements ghost skills and closure interactions
• Cats & Dogs + Horse Ranch: Ghost animals can appear in dreams or Lunaris Hollow
• Growing Together: Closure conversations can affect family dynamics/milestones

 

Why It Works As a Game Pack:

• Smaller than an Expansion, but much deeper than a Kit or Stuff Pack
• Focused supernatural mechanics like Dream Realms, Ghost Interactions, and Emotional Closure
• Reuses existing systems (ghosts, pets, traits) in new, emotionally resonant ways
• Balances emotional storytelling with light occult mystery

 

The Sims™ 4: Whispers From Beyond (Game Pack)

“When the veil between worlds thins, dreams become reality—and the dead still have something to say.”

 Discover Restmoor

Explore the mystical countryside world of Restmoor, inspired by the moors of England and Ireland. A fog-kissed realm of rolling hills, crumbling ruins, and peaceful villages—perfect for those seeking serenity or spiritual connection.

•  Lush green valleys (Henford-on-Bagley style)
•  Magical ruins and energy wells (Glimmerbrook inspired)
•  A small, tranquil beach cove (Tartosa vibes)
•  Lots include: 3 Residential, 3 Community (Bar, Library, Marketplace), 3 Empty

 Lucid Dreaming

Send your Sim into a lucid dream state with a new bed interaction!
In dreams, needs refill, emotions calm, and your Sim can:

• Visit Lunaris Hollow, a surreal dream-realm
• Interact with ghosts and deceased pets
• Receive closure, wisdom, or special gifts from beyond
• Experience fully playable dreams

 

 Lucid Dream = Rest + Social + Story Progression

 

 Enter Lunaris Hollow

Unlock the secret dream-realm of Lunaris Hollow, blending the natural beauty of Japan and Greece with Gothic elements from France and the wilds of Scandinavia.

•  Home to deceased Sims, ghost animals, and spirit guides
•  Locations include: The Grove of Reflection, Memory Pools, Wishing Hollow, and Echo Catacombs
•  Accessed via Lucid Dreaming or high Ghost Skill

 New Traits & Lot Traits

Trait: The Dreamer

• Gets Happy/Inspired from ghost interactions
• Gets Sad without recent spiritual contact

Lot Trait: Comfortable

• Suppresses Angry/Tense moods
• Boosts Inspired, Focused, and Calm states
• Conflicts with "Mean Vibe"

 Closure Conversations

Speak with ghosts in your dreams and ask:

• “Why did we fight?”
• “What happened to you?”
• “Can you forgive me?”

Get heartfelt replies:

“We were too different. I didn’t know how to connect back then. I’m sorry.”
Sims awaken with a Peaceful Closure moodlet and emotional growth.

 Ghost Skill + Temporary Ghost Form

New non-occult skill: Ghost Sense

• Level up through dream contact and spirit study
• Unlock:
  • Ask to Become a Ghost (temporary)
  • Summon Lucid Dream at will
  • Recognize spectral energy in others

 New Aspirations

1. Finding Peace (Location)

• Reconnect with deceased loved ones
• Heal emotional wounds

1. Dreamworld Explorer (Location)

• Visit dream realms
• Collect ethereal keepsakes
• Discover hidden corners of Lunaris Hollow

1. Ghost Master (Knowledge)

• Unlock ghost skills
• Explore spirit history
• Gain access to all ghost realms

 Cross-Pack Features

• Cats & Dogs + Horse Ranch: Dream of ghost pets!
• Growing Together: Closure affects family dynamics
• Life & Death Pack (if owned): Deepened ghost skill system

 Why a Game Pack?

• Focused scope: emotional storytelling, no full new life state needed
• Expands ghost gameplay and dreams without bloat
• Fits beside Realm of Magic, Parenthood, and Werewolves in tone and complexity

 Live your dreams. Confront your past. Whispers From Beyond awaits.

it's a bit similair to spellcasters but differently according to ChatGPT but it answers exactly how i've described

since ghost is a basegame thing we can create a pack in which even none-ghost sims can have options and visit the ghost world (only either in a lucid dream or if your ghost skill is high enough you can visit them even without lucid dreaming)

i do have to admit i wished this was in the "Life And Death" pack since it's death and ghost related but hey don't give up hope maybe in the future we'll get a pack based on this😄😄 (we just got the "Life And Death" pack since October last year so we should wait for a little while but maybe 3 years or so later we can have this pack as a Game Pack)

by the way i rather have like around 8 lots in a Game Pack than 5 or even lesser lots in the world😘😘

i know i shared my idea in here not that long ago but i'd love to expand the pack ideas with the help of ChatGPT more😇😇