The July 1 patch added the following: Getting a Degree at University now helps the Romance Consultant Career.I enrolled my Sim in Foxbury to earn a distinguished degree in psychology for the romance consultant career. The Sim later graduated with honors and a 4.0 GPA. When finding a job, there was the text for gaining a signing bonus and a higher starting level.However, when my Sim started working, she started at Level 3 and her charisma and romance skill levels didn't count toward a promotion. She also did not get a signing bonus.

After the 1st July Patch, the career panel now says that a Psychology (but not a Communications) degree benefits the Romance Consultant career. Sims start at Level 3 with Psychology, but not Communications. The two branches also don't show up separately in the career panel - you can only become a Romance Consultant, not a Matchmaker or Relationship Counselor, when you usually select the relevant branch to join a career with the benefits you get from a degree (that should be higher than starting at Level 3).With a Psychology degree, Eliza should be able to start as a Matchmaker, just as she can start as a Professor:

This was apparently "fixed" but is actually still incorrectly working.To test, I gave 4 sims all 4 regular psychology and communications degrees (one from each university, without honors).Issue #1: All 4 sims could only start the career at Level 1, instead of getting the usual degree career boost being able to skip to later levels in the career track corresponding to their degree.Issue #2: CommunicationsDegreeBS (regular, from Foxbury) gives higher bonus than CommuncationsDegreeBA (Distinguished, from Britechester)Distinguished psychology degree correctly boosts payment trait_University_PsychologyDegreeBSDistinguished degree in Communications gives a far lower bonus trait_University_CommunicationsDegreeBAtrait_University_CommunicationsDegreeBS (Regular degree in Communications, from Foxbury) gives higher bonus than Distinguished Degree in Communications from BritechesterThis also applies to the Honors degrees in the codeEdit: trait typo fixed in caption about Psychology degree.

I've done more testing to clarify my post (including with honors degrees): COMMUNICATIONS DEGREE:Distinguished degree (trait_University_CommunicationsDegreeBA)starts at only L1 (no level boost, matchmaker track not yet available)earns 63/h at L3Regular degree (trait_University_CommunicationsDegreeBS)starts at only L1 (no level boost)earns 66/h at L3Distinguished degree with honors (trait_University_CommunicationsDegreeBAHonors)starts at only L1 (no level boost)earns 65/h at L3earns less than regular degree without honors; should earn more than regular degree WITH honors.Regular degree with honors (trait_University_CommunicationsDegreeBSHonors)starts at only L1 (no level boost)earns 67/h at L3earns more than distinguished degree with honors; should earn lessPSYCHOLOGY DEGREE:Regular degree (trait_University_PsychologyDegreeBA)starts at L1 (no level boost)earns 63/h at L3Regular psychology degree earns same as distinguished communications degreeDistinguished degree (trait_University_PsychologyDegreeBS)starts at L2Level slightly boost but doesn't open up therapist trackearns 66/h at L3Regular degree with honors (trait_University_PsychologyDegreeBAHonors)starts at L2Level slightly boost but doesn't open up therapist trackearns 65/h at L3Distinguished degree with honors (trait_University_PsychologyDegreeBSHonors)starts at L3Level slightly boost but doesn't open up therapist trackearns 67/h Issues:Career level boosts are inconsistent with how degrees usually work.Usually regular degrees start at L6, distinguished degrees start at L7, regular degrees with honors start at L7, distinguished degrees with honors start at L8.Matchmaker track not yet available with any communications degree.Inconsistent with how degrees work with other careers.Therapist track not yet available with any psychology degree.Inconsistent with how degrees work with other careers.Foxbury Communications Degrees incorrectly treated as Distinguished, and vice versa, for pay/performance boosts for this career.Distinguished Communications degree comes from Britechester, not Foxbury.Sims with Distinguished Degrees should be paid more than regular Degrees.

Could you please post in the bug section? It’s not feedback, it’s clearly bug.crinrict I hope it’s fine to ask - could you move this thread to the bug section? Thanks!

I did post my comments as a bug report, it got moved to this thread. I agree, a regular Communications Degree should NOT earn higher pay than a Distinguished Communications Degree and they've clearly been mixed up in the code.I wondered if the "feedback" aspect was to do with the career level starting boost being a bit more complicated, as most other careers split off at Level 4-6, but this one doesn't branch off to matchmaker/relationship counselor until L8.The only other career I've seen do that is the Park Worker career in Adventure Awaits, so I tested how degrees work there to compare. Unfortunately both careers are inconsistent!When I gave the sim a Distinguished Degree in Psychology with Honors, that sim was able to start at L8 in the ParkCounselor track.This is consistent with other careers.BUT when I gave another sim a regular Degree in Psychology (no honors) that sim was ALSO able to start at L8 in the ParkCounselor track. Not consistent with other careers, which would start at L6.My sim with a Distinguished Degree in Biology with Honors was only able to start at L6 Park Worker, before the career branches off to Ranger/Counselor.A higher career jump than the degrees currently give Romance Consultants, but it should be L8 like in all other careers (and is inconsistent with the other track!)Sims with a regular Degree in Biology (no honors) ALSO started L6. I would expect sims with a regular degree to start here. Distinguished + honors should be 2 levels ahead of a regular degree.I'll make a report for the Park Worker career issue and wait & see what the community managers would prefer for this thread.

[LS] Romance Consultant: Degree not helping

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crinrict
Hero+
4 months ago
Soanad if you need administrative help, please talk to a CM. You know I don't work for EA.
classybananasala
Seasoned Hotshot
4 months ago
Hi EA_Solaire, my bug report was moved to this feedback thread, but there is a clear error in how the Romance Consultant career identifies which Communications Degree is “Distinguished”.
Distinguished Degrees in Communications (Britechester) should be the higher-tier degree, with greater pay and performance boosts than the regular Communications Degree (Foxbury), consistent with how all other degree-career pairings function. But with this career, the “lesser” Foxbury degree grants the higher benefit.
It appears that trait_University_CommunicationsDegreeBS / BSHonors were mistakenly used in place of the correct Distinguished degree traits trait_University_CommunicationsDegreeBA / BAHonors.
Could this thread please be reclassified as a Bug Report, or would you prefer that I create a separate report specifically for the degree mix-up?
Soanad
Seasoned Veteran
3 months ago
Hello. I didn’t know that… What is CM?
classybananasala
Seasoned Hotshot
22 hours ago
Issue: A Distinguished Communications Degree with Honors gives a smaller career boost than a regular Communications Degree without honors in the Noble and Romance Consultant careers.
This is how degrees are supposed to impact career performance, PTO accrual, and simoleon pay boosts:
Regular Degree: lowest boost
Regular Degree with Honors: 2nd lowest boost
Distinguished Degree: 2nd highest boost
Distinguished Degree with Honors: the best degree; highest boost
But Noble and Romance Consultant careers treat regular Foxbury Communications degrees as if they were Distinguished, giving them larger boosts than both Britechester Distinguished degrees.
Code from the career_Noble_Level1 tuning files shows both Foxbury communications degrees wrongly giving a higher simoleon bonus than the Distinguished communications degrees from Britechester. CommunicationsDegreeBA/BS need to be switched here.
What should happen: Distinguished degrees should provide higher boosts than their equivalent non-distinguished degrees for the Noble and Romance Consultant careers.
I reported this exact issue last year for Lovestruck's Romance Consultant career, but a CM mistakenly moved it to a Feedback thread when it is clearly a bug in the code mixing up which communications degree is distinguished.
classybananasala
Seasoned Hotshot
6 hours ago
Adding additional clarification based on in-game Discover University screenshots.
The Lessons menu states that Distinguished Degrees provide "better benefits from their job than normal degrees" (see screenshot).
But in the Noble and Romance Consultant careers, normal Foxbury Communications degrees currently provide larger career bonuses than the Distinguished Communications degrees from Britechester.
from Lessons --> Discover University --> Attending University"Enroll in a University" menu: Only Britechester offers a Distinguished Degree in Communications. The code for this degree is trait_University_CommunicationsDegreeBA or trait_University_CommunicationsDegreeBAHonorsFoxbury only offers a normal Communications Degree. The code for this degree is trait_University_CommunicationsDegreeBS or trait_University_CommunicationsDegreeBSHonors
The degree trait BA/BS naming conventions correlate with arts (Britechester) and science (Foxbury) universities, not which degree is distinguished.
But tuning for the Noble and Romance Consultant careers appears to treat all DegreeBS traits as distinguished, when CommunicationsDegreeBA is the distinguished degree. So the higher bonus values are linked to the wrong Communications degree traits. This results in behaviour that contradicts the documented function of Distinguished Degrees.
(The other boosting degrees for Noble and Romance Consultant careers, Economics and Psychology respectively, behave correctly because their Distinguished degrees are from Foxbury and do use DegreeBS university traits.)
Could this please be reviewed again as a potential bug rather than feedback EA_Solaire EA_Cade ?
Soanad
Seasoned Veteran
6 hours ago
No, I didn’t know.
EA_Solaire Could you please move this thread to the bug section? It’s not feedback, it’s clearly bug. Thanks!

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