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Adelaide_Astraea
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1 day ago
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Spouse Noble Rival

Notes: This is from the new Royalty & Legacy Pack. I first posted this in the Gameplay Issues, becuse I thought it might be something wrong on my end. Now I think it is a glitch/bug.

 

Post 1: I made a married couple both in the Noble career. The wife was promoted to Queen and the husband automatically received the title King. But now the husband's work panel shows his wife as a "Noble Rival is an adversary at court who blocks the path to promotion."

Obviously this doesn't work with my story. The husband is King because his wife is Queen. I don't know how to fix this and it is messing up my play; it's also causing bad buffs between them and it's hurting their relationship (even though they were 100% friendly & romantic before the promotion). They are NOT rivals. They are on the same team! 

Any suggestions on how to fix this? Or is this something EA has to fix? Married sims should have some option to NOT be rivals in the noble career. Can we have some option to choose who is or isn't a rival? 

 

Post 2: Some more information on this still unresolved issue.

I noticed that on the pop-up info on noble rival "Marriage" is one of the solutions.

Since I married my sims in CAS when creating them, I thought maybe they need an actual wedding ceremony (I do own Wedding Stories).

So I changed them in CAS to Partners. I had the man propse, she accepted, and I held a simple wedding ceremony where they excahnged vows. 

I had hoped this would effect a change and they wouldn't be rivals anymore. But alas, it didn't change the Rival status.

The man's title WAS changed however, when he was only the partner and engaged, his title matched where he is in the noble career. Once they made their vows in the wedding ceremony, his title was changed back to King.

I would appreciate some feedback from the EA team. I am pretty sure this is NOT what is supposed to happen.

If Marriage is supposed to resolve the Rival status, that's a pretty huge glitch that it doesn't work. It is breaking a vital part of the story in the game mechanics for the Royalty & Legacy Pack.

 

Post 3: In my current household I have 4 out of 6 sims in the Noble Career. Two of them are low to medium in the Noble career. I have tried demoting and promoting the husband to different levels of the Noble career (using MCCC), and in all of them his wife is still the rival.

Oddly enough, the other household members (who are relatives and in the same dyansty under the Queen's Headship over this dyanasty), neither of them see her as a rival, which is odd to me. You'd think the brother & nephew would see the Queen as a Rival; and the Husband, who has title King becasue of his marriage to her, would not see his wife as a Rival.

I am thinking this must be a glitch. Even after trying a Wedding Ceremony between them the Rival status did not change. 

Also a note, the wife/Queen does not see her husband as a Rival. Only the husband/King sees his wife as a Rival. I think that's becasue she is higher ranked than him in the Noble career, and only one person can be in the Level 10 Monarch role.

It still doesn't make sense for the King to see his wife as a Rival. (At least the way I am trying to play. Maybe others enjoy their Sims' marriages fraught with rivalry, lol.)

I am still hoping there will be some update to fix this issue. An option to to check/uncheck for Spouses/Patners are Never Rivals in the Noble Career.

 

Thank you for any help anyone can give!

  • Hello,

    This is currently functioning as designed- if your Queen is a higher level in the Noble career, she will be seen as a rival. Please feel free to provide your feedback on this design choice here if you'd like.

    Thanks!

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  • EA_Solaire's avatar
    EA_Solaire
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    4 hours ago

    Hello,

    This is currently functioning as designed- if your Queen is a higher level in the Noble career, she will be seen as a rival. Please feel free to provide your feedback on this design choice here if you'd like.

    Thanks!

  • Adelaide_Astraea's avatar
    Adelaide_Astraea
    New Traveler
    1 day ago

    Thank you, Gingerymoon, for taking the time to respond! I appreciate your feedback.

    In my current household I have 4 out of 6 sims in the Noble Career. Two of them are low to medium in the Noble career. I have tried demoting and promoting the husband to different levels of the Noble career (using MCCC), and in all of them his wife is still the rival.

    Oddly enough, the other household members (who are relatives and in the same dyansty under the Queen's Headship over this dyanasty), neither of them see her as a rival, which is odd to me. You'd think the brother & nephew would see the Queen as a Rival; and the Husband, who has title King becasue of his marriage to her, would not see his wife as a Rival.

    I am thinking this must be a glitch. Even after trying a Wedding Ceremony between them the Rival status did not change. 

    Also a note, the wife/Queen does not see her husband as a Rival. Only the husband/King sees his wife as a Rival. I think that's becasue she is higher ranked than him in the Noble career, and only one person can be in the Level 10 Monarch role.

    It still doesn't make sense for the King to see his wife as a Rival. (At least the way I am trying to play. Maybe others enjoy their Sims' marriages fraught with rivalry, lol.)

    I am still hoping there will be some update to fix this issue. An option to to check/uncheck for Spouses/Patners are Never Rivals in the Noble Career.

    Thanks again for your response! I hope you have a lovely day! 💐

  • Adelaide_Astraea's avatar
    Adelaide_Astraea
    New Traveler
    1 day ago

    Some more information on this still unresolved issue.

    I noticed that on the pop-up info on noble rival "Marriage" is one of the solutions.

    Since I married my sims in CAS when creating them, I thought maybe they need an actual wedding ceremony (I do own Wedding Stories).

    So I changed them in CAS to Partners. I had the man propse, she accepted, and I held a simple wedding ceremony where they excahnged vows. 

    I had hoped this would effect a change and they wouldn't be rivals anymore. But alas, it didn't change the Rival status.

    The man's title WAS changed however, when he was only the partner and engaged, his title matched where he is in the noble career. Once they made their vows in the wedding ceremony, his title was changed back to King.

    I would appreciate some feedback from the EA team. I am pretty sure this is NOT what is supposed to happen.

    If Marriage is supposed to resolve the Rival status, that's a pretty huge glitch that it doesn't work. It is breaking a vital part of the story in the game mechanics for the Royalty & Legacy Pack.

    Thank you for any help anyone can give!

  • Gingerymoon's avatar
    Gingerymoon
    2 days ago

    I haven't bought and tried the pack myself, but I remember it clearly from some promo video that they stated you cannot have 2 high-level Nobles in the same household, living in the same Kingdom. Probably, the husband should change the career.

  • I made a married couple both in the Noble career. The wife was promoted to Queen and the husband automatically received the title King. But now the husband's work panel shows his wife as a "Noble Rival is an adversary at court who blocks the path to promotion."

    Obviously this doesn't work with my story. The husband is King because his wife is Queen. I don't know how to fix this and it is messing up my play; it's also causing bad buffs between them and it's hurting their relationship (even though they were 100% friendly & romantic before the promotion). They are NOT rivals. They are on the same team! 

    Any suggestions on how to fix this? Or is this something EA has to fix? Married sims should have some option to NOT be rivals in the noble career. Can we have some option to choose who is or isn't a rival? 

    I appreicate any help! Thank you!

    Note: [This is from the new Royalty & Legacy Pack.]

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