Complications changing family tree
Hi! So I have a 7 sim family. I recently decided that I wanted to add parents to one of the already adult sims, so I enabled testingcheats and cas.fulleditmode to create the sims and the relationship...
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@phoenixjklin
Interesting problem.
I think if you just upload the entire family to your library, delete them from the world and place them again, it should remove their bad relationships.
As for how to add both mother and father, you can try the more than 8 sims mod, but that's always been buggy. You can also try splitting up the household. Make it smaller. But I think anyone you move out won't show the proper relationship with the new parents.
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Lol. I have no idea if it would work... If my last suggestion results in some of the household not having the correct relations to the new parents, you could try it in stages... Move out 2 sims, set the remaining sims relationships to the parents, then move two more out and the previous 2 back in, and set those...
I made a test save and tried this, I deleted them from the world and added them again. All their (non player) sim relationships were gone, their inventories were empty and I still couldn't add the father relationship for that specific adult.
I can add it to any other sim in the family, but not to the one I already did it for which definitely points to it being the game thinking it's a relationship that still exists. So it's only the one sim with the "pre existing" deleted father that I can't do this on.
Unfortunately I've made quite the progress since then, so it would be very tedious to have to do it all again. I remember even thinking after I realized I saved the game that "oh no, I hadn't saved in ages before this" right after I tried adding the father. I wish I hadn't been so lazy, haha.
@phoenixjklin I definitely understand not wanting to lose a ton of progress. Maybe just humor me and take a look at the saves available to restore. There is an auto save feature in TS4 and you might be surprised that one may exist which has at least some of the progress you made in the game. I only learned of the number of saves available a few weeks ago. It was a little tedious finding the right save because I didn't know the exact time of the save I needed but after a bit of trial and error, I found that save and only lost a couple days' progress.
Edit: Also, I wouldn't call it lazy. There have been a number of times I wanted to kick myself after a crash, thinking "why haven't I been saving more often???" I didn't realize at the time that there are a number of auto saves available in the load menu. We learn as we go. :-)
- @phoenixjklin
Unfortunately, that's the down-side to moving them from the library. Any relationship to townies/npcs will be deleted using that method. That's what I was hoping would happen to the missing "father". Delete the relationship so it'd be free to re-assign. It must not work if the father doesn't exist. Sounds like a bug.
Thing is, if the sim that is acting buggy, if whomever they are seeing as their "father" exists in the world, all you have to do is delete that relationship and it'll be fine to re-assign. But if they don't exist in the world, there is nothing to delete. Never had that happen to me myself so I'm not sure how to fix.
Instead of fighting it, you may end up having to just recreate that one sim. That would certainly be easiest. You'd lose all their skills and career levels, but those can be cheated up back to what they were. You can move their inventory to another sim temporarily. I don't see using cheat commands a problem to fix a bug like this.
Just don't try to use cheats to assign the family "bit" relationships yourself. It doesn't work properly and will have issues. You want to assign the relationship in CAS if at all possible.@phoenixjklin Based on what @Psychotps said, I wonder if you could double check through manage households that the father in question is still around but "not in world". There have been a couple times I thought I deleted / removed a sim but they still showed up as an existing sim. A couple of times they still showed up in my active sims' relationship panel and I was able to "invite them to hang out at current lot". Just a thought.
