My thought on the Goth refresh.
Thought not thoughts.. maybe? I am not too impressed. One why is Mortie look older than Bella I thought they met when they were the same age as children. I cannot stand Cassie, with that hair, o...
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@daikoyu Actually, it was confirmed. Here's a quote from livestream:
"We are currently in the process of updating NPCs in The Sims 4 including visuals as well as their lore"
They said it themselves. And I personally have realistic wishes - fixing careers, relationships, biography, adding likes and dislikes are all simple and realistic changes. Your explanation of family tree is just blunt... Like sure, The Sims 2 had these issues, but like, you know this is new generation right? We have new tecchnologies, right? Team is bigger, has bigger budget, etc etc... Deeveloping family tree while having in mind past mistakes is nothing more that realistic expectation we all should have.
1. Skintones are issue regardless of what you try to imply. Bella and Cass had warmer tone and people just in hour gave these new version warmer tone and they look same.
2. Okay, and? It was their responsibility to check it. They had been working on four sims. Don't get me wrong, but even if they have this little amount of work and they still somehow don't check everything...
3. The point is.. Why is Bella young adult, when she has teenage daughter and looks as old as Mortimer, who is adult. Why they didn't age up Bella to match?
"We are currently in the process of updating NPCs in The Sims 4 including visuals as well as their lore"
They said it themselves. And I personally have realistic wishes - fixing careers, relationships, biography, adding likes and dislikes are all simple and realistic changes. Your explanation of family tree is just blunt... Like sure, The Sims 2 had these issues, but like, you know this is new generation right? We have new tecchnologies, right? Team is bigger, has bigger budget, etc etc... Deeveloping family tree while having in mind past mistakes is nothing more that realistic expectation we all should have.
1. Skintones are issue regardless of what you try to imply. Bella and Cass had warmer tone and people just in hour gave these new version warmer tone and they look same.
2. Okay, and? It was their responsibility to check it. They had been working on four sims. Don't get me wrong, but even if they have this little amount of work and they still somehow don't check everything...
3. The point is.. Why is Bella young adult, when she has teenage daughter and looks as old as Mortimer, who is adult. Why they didn't age up Bella to match?
@PatrickClSim3Low and @Felicat82 , they did include the Hot and Cold Weather outfits, so @jpkarlsen is correct!
@PatrickClSim3Low , you stated that with new technologies, a bigger team, and bigger budget, they should have been able to do better on the issues that you don't feel they did a good job on. While we do have better technology today, we don't know if there is a bigger budget or larger team. 🤷♀️
Also, Bella does have a red dress, but I think I agree with @PatrickClSim3Low in that the red dress is not the iconic shape from the Sims 1 and Sims 2. Her party dress has the right shape!
Bella's Everyday dress:
Bella's Party dress:
Alexander looks great as a kid, but looks weird if you age him up.😬 The YouTuber Pixelade has a video on it.
The rest of them look good, though I think Bellas' mouth is a little bit wide, and her hair is too wavy as compared to the Sims 2 Bella, and especially the Sims 1 Bella. But that isn't too big of a deal.
Cassandra finally has the proper Sims 2 skintone! 😀 She looks great! (Though she now looks like my sister-in-law when she was a teen! 😄 )
Sadly, they did not include the Likes and Dislikes.😢 This would have been easy to click off a few things. They all would love the same colors of black, red, gray, and white! 🤣
It is odd that Bella is a Young Adult, (and one at the beginning of that life stage, no less, so she is not old enough to have a teenage daughter. I would have bought her being a young adult with a teenage daughter if they had put her near the end of that life stage!
The main thing for me is that even though I think they did a good job, it is very odd seeing different Goths in the Sims4. They never overhauled any Sims from any of the other versions of the Sims, so it seems odd. But that is just me. I would have had a better time dealing with the changes had they come with a new version of the game. I guess I will just have to call these the Sims 4.5 Goths! 😅
I felt that Mortimer would wear a hat in cold weather, so I gave him this one:
@daikoyu , you are right in that there is no way to please everybody! 😅 I hope they do as good of a job on the Calientes because I felt that Dina doesn't look anything like her Sims 2 version! 😥
- @PugLove888 I'm again quoting one of the SimGurus who said they have much bigger team and more resources than they ever had. All I need to hear is that if they will work on the lore and to what extent - what I imagine behind lore in terms of Goths is their rich family tree Bella. So honestly, I just want that simple conformation, that is all
@PatrickClSim3Low , if that is the case, then fair enough! 😎 However, there is the chance that while the
developers have more resources, it could also be the case that their bosses tell them how to allocate those resources, which could explain why certain aspects of the game get more attention than the others, even if it is something that the players or even the developers would like to give more attention to.
As for family trees, the Sims 4 family trees have always been glitchy, and not as comprehensive as the ones in TS2 and TS3. This might be why they didn't redo the Goth family tree, but if that is the case then they should have never mentioned that they were going to go more detail into the Goth's lore (unless all that lore was confined to the town of Willow Creek) . As a fan of lore and sprawling family trees in TS2 and TS3, I do agree that this was a misstep, unless that is to come a little bit later. 🤷♀️🤞
@TeoTeoTe0 I agree with you. I like the final result of the remake much better than the concept art, and I also don't understand why they had to do concept art in the first place, when they could just give us a "rough draft" in CAS. 🤔My only guess is that maybe they felt that if they gave us a preliminary look in CAS that players might have thought those designs were set in stone and might even have started looking for the revamped family either in the game or on the gallery back when the redo was first announced! 😅
Is there a reason why Mortimer wears the same suit for everyday, party, hot(!) and cold weather?
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Hey everyone, we've moved the recent posts about the redesign of Bella Goth in this thread to avoid duplicates. Just to let you know so you're not confused 🙂 Have a great day
