Patch affects groups

"Mendota;15386988" wrote:

"PHOEBESMOM601;15386727" wrote:

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"Writin_Reg;15384573" wrote:

"CarpeNoctemSims;15384542" wrote:
I hope there is an emergency patch today.

I want to get the SP tomorrow but see no point in spending my money if I'm not even playing the game.

Well then at least you can understand why many of us are no longer buying Sims 4 stuff because we are missing that life stage some of us feel the game is empty with out. It is sort of like what you feel with having clubs then having them go away and no longer in your game. It is how it feels to have toddlers for 11 years and then they make them disappear and never come back again. People tell me to suck it up and get over it - but I bet you get the point of how we all feel that miss the toddlers and they have left us waiting over 2 years now. How would you feel if clubs stayed gone that long?

Of course to me game play things are on a lesser plane than an entire life stage - so missing a game play feature is a small comparison - but still it might help others who did not feel what we feel about missing toddlers - understand a little better what it is like to have an important part of your play style torn away from you and your game.

I am not affected by the clubs missing as I don't play with clubs period - but I can feel your pain as I just cannot enjoy this game without toddlers so I can see how you feel. It is just not your game any more when something vital is suddenly not there anymore. For the sake of the clubbers - I do hope they fix it soon for you all - a lot faster than we have gotten toddlers anyway. LOL.

(Just to see the prospective - I used to play my Sims games 4-6 hours every day but since Sims 4 came out in 2014 I still do not even have 280 hours into the game because I just cannot enjoy it without the tots. (That's how badly Sims 4 cripples my play style having no toddlers. Map builders are going through the same problem with no ability to build as they are used to in previous Sims games in Sims 4, and this has also not changed since this game came out). Granted yours is just a broken issue and I am sure they will eventually fix it, unlike me getting the tots or builders getting more build - but at least you can taste what we feel and why we complain a lot about it. It is hard to enjoy a game you have played for over a decade one way and not have that in the game anymore - you must see that even though it's only been a few days for the clubs.

The Sims 4 never had toddlers, but the club system is what Get Together was all about. So I don't miss what wasn't there in the first place. It is unfortunate that you are disappointed, but the Sims wasn't created just for one type of player. Different iterations try different things and attracts new fans and sometimes it is not what others want. I had to wait out Sims 3. I didn't like it. It took away my ability to play multiple families. But I didn't feel that it was appropriate for me to come to the forums and complain constantly. I allowed those that were enjoying it to enjoy it without feeling the need remind then that it didn't have what I wanted.

At any rate this thread is about the broken club system. I logged in to see what the progress was. If you miss toddlers that much, why aren't you playing them in one of the other games? I played Sims 2 for 10 years. I had a good time.

The play styles that are targeted in this version are much more narrow than in the past. The scope of play styles it does encompass is narrow and few.

That is a matter of opinion. I found Sims 3 far more restrictive.

No word yet. I am wondering if the SP will be held up for this. So far it seems to still be listed as coming out tomorrow. I wonder if the SP would actually fix the issue. It might be that the prep that they put in the patch is causing the issue. What I mean is they put most of the under the hood changes in the patch beforehand. The packs themselves seldom cause issues if you recall. But I wonder if splitting things up this way contributes to the issues.

What do you see as restrictive in TS3? In 4 I can't do complicated builds that might need terrain editing. I can't edit my towns to suit my style and stories. I can't easily style and match decor. I have a very difficult time with a deviant play style. Enemies are friends again after a few minutes. No meaningful effort has been into other life states.

As far as rotation play I had far less problems switching to another family in 3.

Well as a player from Sims 1 building was not my thing and I am not a deviant player. I am a story teller and Sims 3 restricted me badly. As for switching families, whenever I did that there were serious issues including having your family culled or disappear or simply go off the rails from what you intended. It was a common issue as a result of the SP which was never really fixed. Also the more families I made the more the lagging and routing issues occurred. A direct result of the number of Sims. The game was clearly tailored to one family play. The actual relations between Sims (family play) was horrible. It didn't get corrected until generations (which by that time I stopped playing). I also found the Sims robotic and non responsive. The few community places were barren, and the horrid rabbit holes left me cold. Very restrictive after all the open and fun community lots in Sims 2. I could go on and on. Now that is not to say that you found it restrictive for yourself, but I did, so you see; It is a matter of opinion.

I agree some things about the game is opinion but some of it is observation of performance and so not an opinion. In all the years I was playing TS3 on a regular daily basis I had one played family culled. As far as going off the rails that's a play style preference. I loved the surprise of not knowing what I'd find because I've never been a micro manager. Being one would be far too regimented for me. I'd also say that if you stopped playing at Generations you missed a lot of interesting game play.....but that's another choice. I never had a problem with lagging or empty community lots and never added mods until the end of production.......and those were for added game play, not to fix anything.

Maybe not being a builder or using certain play styles you just can't be sympathetic to the problems so many are facing when they try to make this game their own. I'm happy you've been able to find this game has things for you but that doesn't mean that some find the game shallow and lacking in creativity isn't a valid point.

No, I am sorry, but my view at the end of the day is that as an adult, I accept that I can't always get what I want. That is the way that life is, and if someone else is happy, I see no reason to rain on their parade. I didn't like the style of Sims 3, and so I just left it. I didn't hang around and keep buying things hoping to make myself like it (and I really don't understand that behavior). Your experience is based on who you are, and mine is based on who I am, as a result we like different things. You are not going to convince me to like your game play, and I am not going to convince you to like mine. If you don't like Sims 4 fine, walk away from it, and let those of us who like it, like it.

Update and on topic. Thank you Sims team for the fast fix!!!

I see you still don't read closely enough to see what people are actually saying. There is no point in this discussion.

Good to stop and not keep digging the hole. Happy Simming.

Anyone having issues with the new patch. I still haven't updated?