@DanishLighthouse Of course there isn't much point in continuing this. But there are a few things I would like to say for the sake of accuracy:
@DanishLighthouse wrote:
Actually the game is *IS* impossible to keep running for at least some people and others knows that, you just keeps persevering as if you knows better than everybody else.
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Also in my last before this post I wrote :
anyone reasonable would see that I am right and that the game were impossible to keep running
I know someone who's been playing the same one TS3 save for eight years, with 16 interconnected worlds (some via EA travel mechanisms, most via mods), and all packs for several years now. It runs pretty well to hear him tell it, certainly nothing like the "impossible" you've repeatedly cited. I know a number of others with similar experiences, but I'm not trying to measure anything, merely provide a counterexample to a sweeping statement presented as unassailable fact.
My '.sims3.backup' directory for *ONE* save game is 891 MB and the '.sims3' directory is 862 MB of which the 'TravelDB.package' is 613 MB (My 'Sim' lived in Bridgeport but did extensive traveling to China , France and Egypt) which is all reflected in the saves.... (you can go and compare if you want - it won't change anything for me as I know how it has been *FOR ME*)
There's a tool called Kuree's Save Cleaner that would have cleaned that up for you. Plenty of people prefer not to use outside tools, and that's certainly a valid decision, but it is a choice; they're not stuck with a game that's impossible to fix.
Also your statement that "Sure, it would have been nice if TS3's fps limiter worked, but that's not the kind of thing that was necessary in 2009. " , only serve to show your lack of insight into PC tech and the problems with some games , fact is that Intel released following CPUs in 2008 : Core i7 desktop processors and i7-920, the i7-940, and the i7-965 Extreme Edition, And problems with *some games* related to some speed of some PC internals started many years before that (I won't claim that I have seen it often but it is a problem that has been known to exist for many years)
Framerate limiters are intended above all else to control the output of and therefore protect graphics cards, not processors.
*AND* if you would care to read my initial post then I clearly stated at bottom of post :
please notice that anyone not being able to recognize the problems described with the The Sims 3 game can only be persons that either did not have all the expansions and so on or did not play the game for long enough time with enough stuff in inventory and so on !!!
I read it the first time, and I only responded once, because it didn't seem worth the effort to compare experiences. But I need to stress that this is what bothers me above all else. You're entitled to your opinion, whatever it happens to be, and it's perfectly reasonable to argue for it to whatever lengths you wish. However, this claim that anyone who disagrees with you does not have all the facts is completely unjustified.
Much as you tried to say to me, you cannot have the information about how others' computers run their games, and under what circumstances. It may seem like an impossibility to you that any save could run for a long time, but that does not make it objectively impossible. And to preemptively dismiss all other opinions as uninformed without any evidence to that effect makes it, well, impossible to have a reasonable conversation.
I've kept at this because I love Sims 3 and have for a long time, and so seeing someone trash it makes me want to provide a counterpoint whenever possible. But I'm going to bed now, and when I wake up in the morning, I will hopefully have the good sense not to respond further.
@puzzlezaddict wrote:There's a tool called Kuree's Save Cleaner that would have cleaned that up for you. Plenty of people prefer not to use outside tools, and that's certainly a valid decision, but it is a choice; they're not stuck with a game that's impossible to fix.
Let's see , in your post before this you 'proclaimed that :
For the record, I didn't do anything extraordinary to get or keep my game running, certainly nothing like the post you linked. When I installed on this computer, I had to do was download an app to limit framerates and deny read permissions on a couple of files.
a remark which at that place were used by you as a tool to try to convince others that my claim about The Sims 3 were wrong , then in your next post you on the fly add that oh! yes , one also has to do this or that .
I can appreciate your 'love' for the The Sims 3 game and that you seem to sometimes wants to 'help' others but what you also are doing is to constantly lie to both yourself and others about who you are and what you do. You constantly modify your claims to fit your own purpose which appear to be to convince other that you are always right and that you know everything.
You did the same to me in another thread where you first had to try assert yourself by making a remark that your suggestions are all better and when you finally find out that that is not so (ref. hard drive 2) then you suddenly slings out the excuse that the better one that I suggested were not available at some site that you refer to - which I never claimed that it was , since all I did were to state an opinion which you did not like which in turn made you want to try to assert yourself !
You constantly modify your claims to fit your own purpose and you are completely un-willing to follow anything but your own (bent) self serving 'logic' !
My advice to you is to step down from your high horse and to live and let live . Did I start to meddle in the other thread when the OP asked you about any AV program ? No ! , why not ? Did I not have an opinion ? Yes I did , but you see , I do not have to assert myself all the time and I do not have to state my opinion everywhere even though I do not always agree with what other people writes. You can not stand that anyone has an opinion that is not yours and you are willing to try to bend everything all the time to try to make it look as if you are right. I do not want this discussion , I do not want to have to dissect what you are doing , what I would like you to do is to get off my back thank you !!!
Fact is that you can not keep playing the 'Vanilla' version of the The Sims 3 game for prolonged time under the circumstances as described by me earlier without that the 'general' user / customer should spend an extra ordinary amount of time doing all sorts of stuff (and modifications) that EA should have done - if it should be done at all .
(If the game should be 'improved' this should have been done by EA. As I wrote to start with the in my opinion then I think that it would have been proper action to offer a free or almost free 64 bit game engine upgrade to all The Sims 3 game owners that like me bought all the expansion packs only to find out that the game could neither run nor save after many hours of game play - a 64 bit game engine upgrade that would solve most all of the problems (if EA at the same time made a few adjustments and set some numbers to have a max value)
(It's funny these days how so many companies issues so many new and upgraded versions of games (often called HD versions) where I do not see EA doing that with my favorite EA games (like the The Sims franchise and the C&C franchise (like Tiberian Sun & Red Alert 2)
I thank you for any 'advice' dispensed by you over the course of conversation , I would like to recognize that that I just actually *did* download the save game clean tool referred to by you to my the The Sims 3 download collection though I doubt that I will want to use it both it seems unclear exactly what it deletes (seem to also depend on tool version) , plus I am not in the mood to start to tinker more with The Sims 3 now if can avoid it - though I must confess that I have been very upset for years that I could not play my The Sims 3 game to my heart's content....
Now ! , if you do not mind , please stop bothering me , thank you !
(Text last edited on December 12 , 2019 to correct a spelling error)
