Re: Relationship Status Stuck

Expected outcome: Going to a "Just Friends" status.

I asked to just be friends with another guy with whom she is "Lovers" (I am working on Serial Romantic aspiration -- same one I was working on before when a relationship status messed up) and he won't go to Just Friends status either, even when I had her cheat repeatedly right in front of him and make unwanted romantic gestures toward him to lower the romance bar.

I asked a "Sweetheart" to just be friends and it worked fine. They became "Just friends."

Is being stuck at "Lovers" a feature of the game? This is the first time I've seen this get stuck and be so unfixable.

Oh man. I asked to be friends with all of them and ended up with only 2 correct relationship statuses. I'll just leave the game alone for a while until I can find a way to fix it.

I ran a repair and update on game -- looks like updates were fresh already. Then I went to a way earlier save that had no romantic relationships and ran through nearly to the end of Serial Romantic aspiration (to kiss 10 sims and have had 8 gfs or bfs) and just broke up with them all before attending University in case it was living in University that had broken the relationship statuses. I really don't know why it broke so bad. I had also previously had a few of them added as club members -- could have been that? Who knows. Thanks for your time in considering the bug. I'll just replay through the University courses and not touch romantic relationships until after graduation.

For the sake of troubleshooting, I’d probably create a parallel save and set up one of the stuck lovers as a playable character and see if the problem persists. After running the reset game ritual, since that resolves random bugs for me.

FWIW: just before the recent update, I ran through a series of just be friends actions and all of them generated the expected result.

Excellent idea. To be honest, since I am not sure if I was really able to fix it or not, I am still nervous it's going to break on me again. And being nervous about a bug this bad make game play less relaxing. Thanks for the reply. I'll take a look.

@CastleCatt 

No prob. Creating a parallel save lets you troubleshoot without impacting your primary gameplay save. In the least, you wont be worse off for your experimentation.

Feel free to follow up. I have one Zoom call this morning (🙄), but - man! - the 2nd largest upside to sheltering in place is the spike in quality time I get to spend with my ipad. (Zoom is a def downside, imho - not a fan of video conferencing - all that visual input is a total distraction - especially watching myself in conversation lol)

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Good luck. Stay safe! And wish me a little focus power, if you want to do a good deed today.

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I tried using a delete relationship cheat and must have typed something wrong as it didn't delete anything. Perhaps they have to be in the same household for it to work, which can't be done until after graduating (or quitting uni) 😉

I don't know what MCCC is, but I appreciate the helpful advice all the same.

And yes, the social isolation is just about the weirdest thing. I am really grateful for the tech we have available, compared to the last great pandemic, which I hear was in 1918. But I hang out with a friend every Saturday and these days it's in video conference, which is getting old fast indeed.

On the earlier save, after a repair, it seemed to be fixed.

However, I went to an even earlier save, as I am new to the University pack and just realized it has Aspirations! So I have started over. There is a specific Sim that was the first to break before, so I had my Sim ask him on date on this earlier save. He broke again. 😕 In this case, they are stuck at "Good friends" even when the romance bar is 1/4 full or more. They should at least be Romantic interests or lovebirds with that much in the romance bar.

So I switched to that Sim, had my University enrolled Sim over, had him ask her to just be friends, then filled the romance bar back up by a fair amount. They should not be boyfriend and girlfriend anymore, but their status should be at least lovebirds, not "Just Good Friends." I am completely stumped. It's conspicuous that it has been my male Sim named Ubi both times this has broken. 

I am trying to do the destroy relationship cheat according to what I think the above instructions indicate. It didn't do anything, so I must have typed something wrong. I did:

-- cntl/shift/c

-- testingcheats on

-- relationship.destroy Ubi Megaspark_id Cinnamon Sugarmountain_id

I also tried the instructions from this thread:

https://forums.thesims.com/EN_US/discussion/832377/cheat-for-completely-resetting-a-relationships

I tried using the ID numbers both in a row with a space in between like

relationship.destroy #1 #2

I also tried using ID numbers both in a row with a space in between but with _id after each one

relationship.destroy #1_id #2_id

#1 being one Sim's ID number and #2 being the other Sim's ID number.

One of my biggest obstacles here is that I am not at all fluent in cheat or coding, I need very explicit instructions. Many times instructions go into a short of short hand that people familiar with these things can understand kind of nodding to each other knowingly.

Tried alien mind erase, and that didn't go well either. >.< They show up as aquaintances in the relationship bar. There should be no relationship bar at all over her head when I mouse over her. It should just show her name and nothing else like any other stranger. Hmmm...

I'll just step away again until I can find a fix. This is all after running a repair.

Acquaintances ARE Strangers...personally I don't know how people get the idea that they are lovers; they're the farthest thing from.... 

I gave it one more shot before giving up. I ran another repair, went way back to a very early save, tested out romantic relationships, asked to just be friends, and it was all working like a charm. I tested Ubi first because he is the one that always seems to break first. Asked to just be friends, it was fine. Then he called my Sim up for a date and I thought, good idea. Test one more time. Their romantic bar is filling up pretty full, they are boyfriend and girlfriend, and their relationship status is showing "Just Friends."

I am completely out of ideas. I'll check in from time to time in case anyone else hits this bug and finds a solution for it. Otherwise, I really don't have a way to play Sims 4 with this bug reasserting itself repeatedly.

Thanks, all, for trying to share some tips and ideas. Man I wish something had worked.

@CastleCatt

Well, the MCCC mod would fix it in a second.

But, if you don't want to use mods and your commands aren't working for some reason, the ONLY way you'll remove the relationship would be to separate them.

Move the sims into separate households.
Modify each household in CAS and upload the individual sims to your library.
Delete BOTH households from your world.
Place both separate households from your library back into your world.

They will have no relationships at all. WITH ANYONE.

Unless you use a mod, this is the ONLY way.

@Psychotps 

Oh. Stop the train. 🙌 You must be scratching your head right now wondering if I could have been so obtuse, and let me answer, yes. I was and am completely obtuse. Please accept my apologies, and also let me thank you for having suggested something that you were quite sure would help. I have never used a mod, but that doesn't mean I refuse to. If there is a mod that would fix this, I'd be all over it like a cat on a tuna can.

When I said,

"I don't use mods."

I meant, 1.) I hit so many bugs so often, I am afraid mods would make it worse, but most importantly, 2.) I have zero experience using them. I don't know how to find them, how to install them if I did find them. All I know about mods is that people use them and so they exist. Other than that, I am a complete Sims4 mod noob. A game master walked me through downloading a mod on a private server in another game, but that is the extent of my experience.

So when I said,

"I don't know what MCCC is, but I appreciate the helpful advice all the same."

I meant I literally had no idea what MCCC is an abbreviation for, if it is something I have to go get to change the way cheat codes work on my game or if it is a method for typing in cheat codes that I need to learn. I was reading Greek.

:D :D

Ok, it sounds like I need to google *Sims 4 MCCC* and see if I can figure out how to download a file called MCCC? I assume there will be a Sims folder somewhere on the computer -- I think I can probably find it -- and hopefully there is a folder for "addons" or "mods" in there.

Again, I am so sorry, I didn't understand what you meant at all. Thanks for being so patient.

I am on MCCC Discord getting help to put the MCCC files in the right places. A person on support team asked what the bug is, so I sent a pic. Crossing fingers.

They are telling me in their discord that this bug happens all the time and there is really no fix; it's just something people are having to learn to live with. Hopefully it will be fixed someday.

I seem to have downloaded and installed the MCCC correctly, I hope?

Thanks again, so much, for your time. I think I might really like some of its features even if it doesn't fix the bug. <3