@crinrictHi Crin, I read the linked report. I do not use mods ever and the only cheat I ever use is the fill motives cheat which I use only rarely. I don't think that cheat is related to the problem because I did use it before Magic Realm and had no problems with the celebrity perks, although I can't say for sure when the celebrity perks became a problem. I added them and was happy with what I chose, so I didn't pay attention to them. Here is where it gets interesting, Last night when I was checking the older saves I never completely closed out of the game before playing a different save, I just clicked exit to main menu. This morning I went into the game to check something and the save game from last night which when I closed out had all of the issues with the spell caster perks was fine. I was able to click on both celebrity perks and spell caster perks and everything was there. I had 2 spell caster points to use but didn't as I am now sure that whatever went wrong previously was caused by one of the perks I chose in the game where it all went wrong. When I exited the game completely last night after playing everything seemed to fix itself. I did not make a backup for this game yet, so I did not want to play around with it but later on tonight when I play I will back it up and then use my spell caster points to purchase perks to see if once again I have problems and I will let you know. I am sorry for the lengthy post and I hope I didn't confuse you.