updates?!

@JaffaYogini 

There was indeed another patch a couple of days ago (PC/Mac) For consoles it was supposed to be this weekend, Don't know if it has shipped.

If you after the latest patch still have issues check to see if there are threads covering them. Otherwise create your own. One per issue so it is easier to track them and merge with existing threads.

Ok, so something happened in this thread, that I'm not allowed to talk about.  Awesome.  So yeah, basically what I was saying is that the quality of EAs games lately are very bad, and they don't seem to care.  Am I allowed to say that?

As long as they’ve made their money they really don’t care 💀 wish i could get a refund on this 💩

@EvilVampyre Oh, you can rant about this game, self here, you just need to rant politically and don’t attack any persons. I would not say they don’t care ... I rather think they just don’t have enough resource and time before they need to release something new and here has the team nothing to say.

Yeah, I am not happy on the state now and how much are broken but I must say I tested HSY and this pack don’t gave me any *hard* issues (I add here I toggle the NPC thing off and don’t use social bunny) The school worked nice for me and sims behaved normal there // I had no simulation lag or generally fps drops. All my annoying bugs came rather from the base update as from the new DLC.

I don’t want a refund for HSY. I think this is a lovely DLC and I like almost all in there. I think the team need just to fix the base/cross DLC feature + the phone thing. I really miss that my sims can run, so I abuse heavy the teleport cheat if the way is to long.

@daikoyu Have you seen this thread ? This lists every bug they are aware of, there are hundreds! Going back as far as base game.  They haven't bothered to look into most of them, the only bugs they seem to fix are ones that make the game unplayable, or give them bad reputation (the incest thing), everything else gets forgotten about.  They have plenty of time to fix these bugs, they just spend their time making new expansions instead.  They get paid for expansions, they don't get paid for patches.  I'm not saying HSY is bad, I am really enjoying it, its just that the amount of bugs I encounter when I play the game, really gets on my nerves!  I would say which bugs are affecting me the most, but I'm not allowed to mention more than one bug at a time it seems.

I think the main issue is that the testers only have access to the base game and the expansion they are testing.  Sure, everything seems to work fine when they release it, but as soon as you mix it up with all the other expansions, everything breaks.

Like the OP said, we were promised a lot of work on the game over the week, it is now Tuesday, and there has been no news or patches since the last one.  Again, they seem to have given up on the bugs, they're probably already working on the next expansion.

I know this thread, but I must say I only encounter under 45% of this bug. I have all DLC and play oftens vanilla, so I am just lucky or some of this bug get hidden fixed or only there with a special DLC + Combo, and here is the problem… Not ever bug which here is listed encountered each player.

So, if you are a programmer, you fix the bugs which make the game unplayable or fix the bug which T-Pose? I bet you choice not the T-Pose bug, because its annoying for the end user but it doesn’t break the game. It’s the same with the chefs stand out. Just reset the chefs and you can enjoy your meal.

Bug fixing is not simple and every person with a little experience in coding know this *fix 1 Bug and get maybe 2-4 more* So normally you don’t touch bugs which are not game breaking, and which have work-a-rounds. Eventually you fix these things but there have not a priority. I wish bug fixing was simple but most the time is it not, you have so much variable which you need to consider, specially if you make a bug fix official. A modder can fix a bug with glue and tape, official ways is sadly not so simple.

We all agree we want bug fixing but EA want money, and they get only money if they release something new. It was something others if we could only play sims via subscription model, but I rather don’t have this alternative because I would not pay every month to play sims 4, self if I would get more bug fixing. I rather use mod to fix these things as have a subscription model.

I understand your stance, but I think this discussion have no end and, in the end, just frustrate all parties. So, i am out here, I am sorry.

@daikoyu The severity of the bug is irrelevant, we have paid for a working product. The product does not work as advertised, therefore it should be fixed.

I have a BEng in Internet Technology, I studied programming for 3 years, I also worked as a beta tester for a while, so i know how this works. Fixing the huge amount of bugs in this game is entirely possible.  The problem is that they won't, because they are more interested in making more money by releasing more expansions.

This argument may frustrate people, but something needs to be done. The quality of products these days is shocking, all anyone cares about is money, not quality. I just wish something would change.

I am in complete agreement with @EvilVampyre. They don't fix bugs that they could certainly fix and HSY cost $40. We paid for a pack that you could take your sims to active school and the fact remains that we need a workaround just to get the grade up. This to me is unacceptable. I basically paid $40 for CAS items, a pier with rabbitholes, the ability to make money from making outfits in CAS and a weird social app with preprogrammed sentences that aren't really that interesting, oh and Boba Tea. The grade bug should have been fixed with the August 3rd update. If a GameChanger mentions a bug several times in a video, I would hope they would have addressed it. It was not. It was not addressed. On top of that, they changed times of life stages and only casually mentioned it. For more info on this Pixelade on YouTube has news videos, he literally posts within the hour if something Sims related happens. Also, you get a graduation invite 2 days into being a Young Adult, which means you lose two days where you could have your sim in university. For more on this, see WhinyBrit's HSY LP on YouTube. Anyway, with the grade bug still not addressed, I don't think this pack is worth $40, and I made the mistake of pre-ordering when the GameChangers had Early Access. The aging bug, the incest bug and the curved wall bug were not present in Early Access. I think it is wrong and immoral of EA to put a game on pre-order, and offer exclusive items before the base game is patched and not offer refunds on anything but the base game. They should have offered refunds for MWS. I have a lot of single sims so when MWS had super bugs, I just didn't have my Sims get married, but with HSY, this has become a pattern. I live in America, I'm disabled, need health benefits but am capable of working, in America, they have extremely strict rules about how much money you get from the government and how many hours you're allowed to work. My husband and I worked out an allowance for me, when I work. I get $50 a month to spend on fun stuff like games or comic books, movies, etc. I am not working right now because the commute got too expensive. I had some allowance saved up and it was my birthday in June, so I bought HSY. If I spend $40, I expect it to work. This article is from 2020 but it might open people's eyes to what we spend on this game, if they are unaware! I've been playing since Sims 1 so imagine how much money I have spent over the years. Okay, well back then it was my Mom's money, but still! Video games are one of the only products consumer's buy where we are expected to and in EA's case, forced to deal with bugs that still have not been fixed. And consumers have no recourse, like refunds to force EA and the Sims team to be accountable. Now, take the total cost from that article, add approximately $120 to that for all the current content and multiply that by the millions of people around the world who play the game. EA has money and resources to fix the game. Yet it has been proven that they are working on a new kit. Even $5 times millions of people is enough to hire more people to fix bugs. Modders are fixing EA's bugs. EA relies on our emotional attachment to this game, that's what keeps the engine running.