A more mature version of Sims?

"February11;c-16953348" wrote:
For a non adult game, the fact that woo hoo's happen, cross dressing can happen, alien abduction male pregnancies happen - that's hardly teen restricted as far as I'm concerned ... oooh, and neighbourhood brawls, from memory, in Windenburg became an issue ... neglectful parents where children are taken away by the welfare ...
Anyhoo, as far as I'm concerned, I'm happy with what we have, we can still do what we want to an extent, depends which way you want to play. I can't see drive by shootings, armed robberies will improve the game, what else would adult bring? Our sims can have affairs, intermingle and do all sorts of "unfamily" "anti- relationship" type behaviour ... ... we can make them lazy, have no career opportunities, the list goes on ...
I get where the OP is coming from, but, what exactly would OP like to have as an adult game, out of interest sake?

Realistic consequences, financial hardships, mortgages, fears, breakdowns, midlife crisis, better illnesses, character weakness (so that everyone who is not a vampire or superstar does not walk around like Mr. or Mrs. Perfect), revamped animations to showcase emotional states without flip flopping all over the place, realistic relationships where enemies are not so easy to turn back to besties and friends remember the good deeds and where cheating has long term consequences if caught, among others.

Like you mentioned there are already themes such as cross dressing, fluid genders, hood brawling. But IMO to me it feels like it's a comedy sitcom, sims will do an angry animation then smile and ask their enemy how's their day. Perhaps that has never been the aim of The Sims as a franchise and life simulator, but I cannot help but yearn for a game that is more...like a real life simulator.

"friendlysimmers;c-16953957" wrote:
I thin everyone will agree with this there should be 2 base games for the sims 1 that caters to players that prefer a cleaner game that players customise there way where cc is still possible same story with the t rating the second game caters to players that wents more adults stuff in the game. at least that's what I think to be honest

Actually, I don't agree with that. At that point, they might as well make two different games, so they can have two different budgets, cause with a full budget, I feel we already don't see as much content and bug fixes as we need. I sure wouldn't be happy with my relaxed version of sims to share a budget with an mature version of sims and vice versa.

I understand trying to appeal to people's wants, but it's a fine line. They can't please everyone, and there are gonna be people that aren't happy with some direction or another that is taken. You can't buy a game like the Sims, where multiple, multiple packs are released and expect every single one to fit your play style, especially if you have a very specific play style. The best you can hope for is to semi-like the packs that aren't exactly your play style (or not buy those, but not be rude to devs and simmers cause you don't like the pack).

So, to expect them to run two base games is a bit unrealistic as well. At what point do you draw the line? Why not 3 base games? A "T" for teen, A "M" for Mature, and "E" for everyone. Or four base games? Add a "X" and you can imagine what that would entail. Seriously. At what point do they draw the line, then? Makes no sense, especially from a business stand point.

As for the dark humor and things of sims past... now that I can get behind. I like the consequences of Sims 2 and Sims 3 that seem to be missing in Sims 4, but I still enjoy the game.

cake dancer/dance Machine from the Sims 1? The "goosing" of Sims 2? Or how about Ms. Crumbebottom, hitting your sim with her purse when you dare do something "inappropriate" Poker tables? Sims 3 had basically "Party Dancers" but seriously we all know what they're suppose to be..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjJTZk82ow0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTt7yfFGPio

https://i.imgur.com/Rz3qqr4.jpg

I'd like some sims to be able to be frightened to death and things like that that came in past games. I remember the eerie creepiness and sudden sounds from the first Sims game that would actually freak me out a bit while playing. (But I liked it) I'd like sadness and apathy to be depicted by a trait that could mean more. I'd like to be able to make characters with a visible lack of empathy and actions that went along with that. Heck we can't even have a huge evil clown head ride anymore I'm sure. Not that I think the last one is because of ratings but because of sensitivity... and sometimes that bugs me a bit also.
I don't want or expect the Sims to go in a direction at all that mods that we can't talk about are available for.
It's not even that I want realism. I just want an extension to those parts of life that have gotten nixed in this game as time has gone on.
I do think they do the best they can within the rating.. that's why I'd be open to a mature rated game.

"friendlysimmers;c-16953957" wrote:
I thin everyone will agree with this there should be 2 base games for the sims 1 that caters to players that prefer a cleaner game that players customise there way where cc is still possible same story with the t rating the second game caters to players that wents more adults stuff in the game. at least that's what I think to be honest

I honestly really can't agree. Especially, since the budget for this game seems pretty sparse. Last thing I want is to feel like I'm getting cheated out of more features because X base game has more than the other X base game and vice versa. That's what mods and CC are for to tailor games more to your liking. They aren't going to be able to please everyone and that's just how it is with games.

I would love more returning humor and some morbid ones as well much like how the first and second sims games were to keep things fresh and silly as well as more consequences in game. Right now the game is still no more than a casual, leisure walk through the park in the middle of the night.

Or how about adding stuff (ie like Goosing or Ms.Crumblebottom wacking your sim with her purse, or cake dancers or the make out on the couch) back into the T rated versions instead of making a entirely separate game?

Sul Sul~

I've removed a few posts from the thread. Let's please be mindful that this forum isn't an English class and we don't need to discuss someone's grammar or spelling and draw attention to it. :smile:

I would also like the ability to have deeper emotions and consequences in a game aimed at older people. It has been hard to stay in love with the Sims 4. Sometimes I just cannot understand why. I think that too much of my imagination is required and I have to force storylines that used to happen on their own. Now the actual sims actions are not available so it is a game of pretend my sim did this or said that. I have only been surprised one time by my Sims actions/reactions and that is my fondest memory.

I also agree that many things will offend people. Recently I saw post where someone said the vampire night attacks were like home invasions and rapes. Where would be the room for some serious supernatural fun if vampires are taken so seriously.

But the breaking of parts of the game have also deeply damaged my gameplay. I used to never use mods because they always broke my Sims 3 game. Now I have to use them so the functionality I purchased from packs will still work. Problems with spa day, Gtw, others strike at the heart of how I play.

Not everyone likes negative, dark themes and thats okay too.

I think the Sims were fine the way they were it wasn't until Sims 4 that they start putting crap in the game silly stuff like men having babies, and other things which I won't mention because I will get banned. As far as more mature content it is very silly now so I don't see how that would be possible the stuff in the game is rather childish I don't play with some of these interactions.